77thor
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I can't seem find any LED bulbs(floods) that are made to be used in recessed "can" lighting in a kitchen. Do they even make them for that application??
Do they make LED bulbs for recessed lights?
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ishiboo
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Hundreds of 'em. However the best thing to do is replace the entire trim with a LED trim. I like the HD EcoSmarts, available in both 4" and 6" variants.
If you are looking for 5", there are several lamps available that work with both 5" and 6" housings. If you're looking for 3", there are some of those too though I've never found ones as nice as the EcoSmarts, so my 3" cans are still halogen.
Actually, No they don't.... I was at Home Depot and all of the LED floods had something on the package that said something to the effect of; "not for use in enclosed fixtures"... WTF?
Recessed lighting would be an "enclosed fixture" right?... Did I read that wrong or what?
Toolfool
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I recently picked up par30 replacement LEDs at Costco. Replaced every bulb in the kitchen recessed lights (where we spend most time at night). I like the light they put out.
Dustball
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Enclosed means there is a globe or a cover surrounding the bulb.
Recessed light fixtures are fine unless there is a cover over it such as a waterproof cover used in showers.
Recessed light fixtures are fine unless there is a cover over it such as a waterproof cover used in showers.
Buckgnarly
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Halo retro kit by Cooper. They fit 5 or 6 inch cans. GREAT light, available at HD or Lowes. They are entire inserts that include trim, not simple floods.
ddawg16
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Go to Amazon and do a search......plenty to select from...
Also try SuperBrightLEDS.com
If your using your existing cans....you most likely have an Edison socket....as an FYI....you can usually replace that socket with a GU24 socket. In the future it might open up more LED bulb options.
Also try SuperBrightLEDS.com
If your using your existing cans....you most likely have an Edison socket....as an FYI....you can usually replace that socket with a GU24 socket. In the future it might open up more LED bulb options.
jvitez
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http://www.homedepot.ca/product/4-inch-led-retrofit-kit-matte-white-baffle-and-trim-ring/813288
They're listed as warm white 3000K, but they look much more white than a halogen, more like around 4000K which I like.
They're listed as warm white 3000K, but they look much more white than a halogen, more like around 4000K which I like.
Highbeam
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A can light is not an enclosed fixture, go back to HD and buy your bulbs. I used ecosmarts. Same shape, light, dimmability, look as incandescent but only use like 9 watts. 10$ each at my home depot.
jvitez
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77thor, or should I say Tim: love your avatar.....
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I installed cans in the kitchen about a year ago. At the time I bought every available retro LED kit I could find at the home centers, and a couple of commercial kits. None of them produced a color of light that we liked. All were too white and fluorescent looking for us. I ended up using incandescent bulbs for now. I suspect we will see "warmer" colors coming in LED, I need to check again and see what is available.
Warrenator
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I have several recessed cans that never threw any light in a useful spot, most of the glass covers are missing anyway so I screwed LED bulbs (regular round style) into the fixture but put an extension (sometimes they are switched and have outlet adapters) into the fixture so the bulb protrudes slightly. They work great. Regular round style LED bulbs are also cheaper than the LED spots.
I just replaced the floods in my kitchen with these LED's from Amazon, TCP LBR301050KND6 LED BR30 - 65 Watt Equivalent Daylight (5000K) Flood Light Bulb - 6 Pack. We had the fluorescent floods and they took a while to warm up to full brightness. These turn on full bright white (5000K) and made it a lot easier to see.
I am in the process of replacing all the bulbs in our house with LED's and am using this same brand throughout.
I am in the process of replacing all the bulbs in our house with LED's and am using this same brand throughout.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Philips-...mmable-LED-Light-Bulb-4-Pack-452383/205337960
thor, you are looking for a BR30 lamp, if your cans are normal size (6"). 2700 is considered the normal color for inside a home. Higher kelvin colors are not usually used in homes because they make the space look to sterile or blue. But if that's what you like, you can find them in other colors.
A BR30 has 650 lumens in a very wide flood, much wider than any PAR lamp. This makes for a softer light, less shadowy and mimics the incandescent lamp that used to be in there.
Good luck.
CD
OrneryDuck
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We are going with G7 Reno bulbs in our kitchen, very bright! They also make a similar but warmer Spot-style LED solution, the G7 Jackpot. Both are available on Amazon with Prime shipping.
Speedy Petey
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It's nice when folks drag up really old threads so they can get their link shown. (now removed lol)
Since this original post was made in 2013 there are lots and lots more choices in LED lamps and trims kits.
Since this original post was made in 2013 there are lots and lots more choices in LED lamps and trims kits.
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Voi
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We are slowing trying to find replacements for the 75 watt halogen flood bulbs we use at home and at work. We having been buying LED bulbs and retro-fit trims and trying them at both locations in different ceiling heights, etc.
In general we have found that most people prefer a higher lumen bulb vs a trim in an area where one needs a lot of light. The trims look really nice but seem to produce more glare and our employees complain about them more.
A Par 38 LED bulb with identical or slightly higher lumens seems to sit a bit higher in a 6" can which still lights the area well but cuts down on glare.
Has anyone else noticed this? So far 100% of our employees prefer an area lit with an LED bulb in a can vs the similar replacement trim.
In general we have found that most people prefer a higher lumen bulb vs a trim in an area where one needs a lot of light. The trims look really nice but seem to produce more glare and our employees complain about them more.
A Par 38 LED bulb with identical or slightly higher lumens seems to sit a bit higher in a 6" can which still lights the area well but cuts down on glare.
Has anyone else noticed this? So far 100% of our employees prefer an area lit with an LED bulb in a can vs the similar replacement trim.
n8n
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here's a readily available high-CRI LED trim
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Commerci...-LED-Trim-90-CRI-2700K-CER6730AWH27/204726945
a CRI >=90 is important for areas where seeing what you're doing is important. don't want colors to look washed out and artificial.
You may prefer a different color temp; 2700K is about what a regular incandescent puts out so this would be kind of a "you shouldn't even notice that they're not incandescent if you don't look up" type of product. If you prefer a more "daylight" appearance you would want to look for something with a higher color temperature.
The one instance that you will notice that they're not incandescent is when dimmed; if you dim them the color temp will not really change when you dim as opposed to an incan which gets warmer (lower color temp as measured in K) as you dim.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Commerci...-LED-Trim-90-CRI-2700K-CER6730AWH27/204726945
a CRI >=90 is important for areas where seeing what you're doing is important. don't want colors to look washed out and artificial.
You may prefer a different color temp; 2700K is about what a regular incandescent puts out so this would be kind of a "you shouldn't even notice that they're not incandescent if you don't look up" type of product. If you prefer a more "daylight" appearance you would want to look for something with a higher color temperature.
The one instance that you will notice that they're not incandescent is when dimmed; if you dim them the color temp will not really change when you dim as opposed to an incan which gets warmer (lower color temp as measured in K) as you dim.