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Another thread got me thinking about this. For breaking a bolt or nut loose, a breaker bar is obviously the best choice besides an impact, but when you cant fit a breaker bar with socket in some places, what are you supposed to do? I know I have done the double wrench trick several times, but does anybody make an extra long (breaker bar length) box end wrench that is beefed up on for strength, and a comfortable grip on the other. I'm sure they would be expensive, but there would be several times I could've used one.
 
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I've broken a few wrenches doing the double wrench thing. I finally flattened some steel tubing for use as extensions.
 

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A pear head ratchet and a socket. Add in low profile sockets if you like. Think 20inch+ gearwrench 84 1/2 drive, low profile astro sockets, and a jack handle. Long offset box wrenches are nice, you will sometimes need to crank on the ratcheting end as that is the only way to engage the fastener (too little swing to used fixed end).

Sometimes that's the only (reasonable) way to get the job done.
 

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Extra long zero offset boxed end wrenches usually do the trick. I'm not talking the ratcheting type here unless you're using the fixed boxed end side to break it loose first
 

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Both Crafstman and Snap On have made box end wrenches with screwdriver style handles, but nothing about them was extra long. More the other direction, actually.

I would buy a set of extra long box ends wrenches with screwdriver or prybar type handles.
 

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OP, what you've described is also known as a leverage wrench.

I've only ever seen them in sizes larger than approximately 1"/24mm. Wright, Proto, Facom, and probably others make them.
 

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There's wrench extenders out there like the Mueller Kueps one that can be used as a substitute for the double wrench trick or a cheater bar.
 

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Torque adaptors are useful. I have added them to a long 3/8 inch drive breaker bar effectively making a fairly long box end wrench.
 

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For making any wrench "extra long":

https://www.matcotools.com/catalog/product/WE745/wrench-extender/
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If you've got space and room to swing a hammer these https://amzn.to/2QjBkFP can be helpful you break the most stubborn fasteners loose.

Otherwise take a piece of black pipe and hammer one end flat to oval it out to slide over any wrench and leave the other end round for grip. That works on everything.....use a lifetime wrench like craftsman or husky that doesn't scrutinize if it should break.

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There are torque wrench adapters that slide into the handle of an interchangeable head torque wrench. I have seen these torque wrenches come as a kit where you can change out the torque clicker handle for a regular handle and use the body part as a breaker bar. The ratchet head can be used with a socket or replace the ratchet head with the torque wrench adapter

Not something you see in automotive tools

The Meuller Kreups wrench extender also works well. Normal style torque adapters work well worn breaker bars or ratchets too
 
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Thank you all for the responses, but I think everybody is missing the point of this thread. There is a bad voodoo about using two wrenches. Also, I am sure a wrench manufacturer would not want to warranty a wrench that you used an extender on, it's no different than a cheater pipe, and a breaker bar with a socket doesn't always fit. What I am talking about is a set of boxed end wrenches that are beefy enough to take lots of torque, and are long enough, roughly breaker bar length, to apply that torque. Picture a breaker bar with a box end on it instead of a square drive.

I usually resort to the double wrench trick, but they make tools for every conceivable application, I just have never seen anything that fits this description. It seems like it would be useful.

The leverage wrench "Can I Try?" mentioned seem to be the closest to what I am referring to.
 

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Are you thinking about something like Gearwrench's Gear Box XL wrenches? Long pattern, fixed box on one end and ratcheting box on the other, or is that too short?
 
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If you can't get the in line space for an manual impact driver as suggested above, then you could try to use a striking wrench from the side. They come in straight and offset.

I don't know that every wrench needs the thickness of SK ratcheting wrenches (though I really like those). The thinnest parts of wrenches is the gripping ends, also by where the torque is being applied. The handles are thick in the direction on the force being generated. I have heard of using a jack to turn a wrench for instance. I don't think that longer wrenches come with thicker heads, either, for fitment.

I wonder whether a breaker bar was ever made for Max Access sockets. That would make the socket the length from the fastener. It is more than a wrench, but not too much.
 

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I had also thought of a striking wrench but it takes a lot of room to swing a hammer. They really have no other uses I can think of.

I wouldn't mind a few really long 6pt wrenches if they didn't cost a fortune.


A box end crow's foot might also help the OP.
 
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I have a couple of combo wrenches that I cut in half and then use a tight fitting pipe as an extension. Works great although I have only used them a couple times.
 

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I had also thought of a striking wrench but it takes a lot of room to swing a hammer. They really have no other uses I can think of.

I wouldn't mind a few really long 6pt wrenches if they didn't cost a fortune.


A box end crow's foot might also help the OP.

I'm assuming that just like wrenches for larger sized fasteners, extra-long wrenches would be abundantly more for the cost of materials. Even, though I might splurge for new SK extra-long double end box ratcheting wrenches - flat and thick just like they are!

I'd thought about crow's feet, but I figured that the ones with a drive end an inch away would be best for tight fits. I believe that I've only seen that in 3/8" and only by Snap-On.
 

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X beam wrenches are designed for comfort and greater leverage, not sure if they are double long though.

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I see what you're getting at here, but I mostly don't see the point of leaving one end plain.

Put a box end on both ends and it's a two-fer. So basically an extra-long double box end as others have pointed out.

I guess you wouldn't get nice knurling or a handle at the end if it were double-ended.
 

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Crowfoot on the breaker bar will fit where a socket won't. Pipe on breaker bar if it is too short. Sliding T if breaker bar is too long.
 
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I see what you're getting at here, but I mostly don't see the point of leaving one end plain.

Put a box end on both ends and it's a two-fer. So basically an extra-long double box end as others have pointed out.

I guess you wouldn't get nice knurling or a handle at the end if it were double-ended.

I think what surprises me, is that nobody makes what zi am talking about. They make boxed end wrenches of standard length with cushion grips and things similar. I just cant believe they dont make an extra long set of wrenches that are meant for getting in places breaker bars cant, but can apply as much torque.

I have a set of the Gearwrench XL box end ratchet wrench set. They may be the longest on the market but compared to a breaker bar, they are still short.

Again, I'm not currently needing anything like what I am talking about. I would just use the two wrench method, but knowing brands like Snap On and Koken make tools for just about every conceivable need, I'm surprised they haven't done this.
 

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Box end spud wrenches would make it easy to add an extension. Still not exactly what you're looking for.
 

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Also, I am sure a wrench manufacturer would not want to warranty a wrench that you used an extender on, it's no different than a cheater pipe, and a breaker bar with a socket doesn't always fit.

No wrench manufacturer can really prove you cheatered the wrench unless you bend it. If it just breaks it could be a defect. Just saying.

Even Rigid has warrantied their pipe wrenches that we snap. Being in the HVAC field on the daily, we have pipe always around. I've only ever bent one craftsman 7/8 wrench using pipes, but if I think it's going to be THAT bad I'll use heat, impact, etc first.


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SK makes long pattern combination wrenches that might fit your requirements. They come in both 12 and 6 point.

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What might be cost effective for us, the consumers, and for the Manufacturer's is a combination of wrench and socket.

A thick, cylindrical one sided box wrench would fit narrowly on the fastener. A solid metal bar inserts into the wrench because the thick handle for the wrench is hollow and ball detent connected or hog ring connected or a retaining ring. If the handle has good depth and fitment, then the retension shouldn't matter much.

Of course there might already be something like this.
 

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If you take a soft faced dead blow hammer, and tap on a wrench, you will be surprised at how well it works to loosen very tight bolts
 

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Thank you all for the responses, but I think everybody is missing the point of this thread. There is a bad voodoo about using two wrenches. Also, I am sure a wrench manufacturer would not want to warranty a wrench that you used an extender on, it's no different than a cheater pipe, and a breaker bar with a socket doesn't always fit. What I am talking about is a set of boxed end wrenches that are beefy enough to take lots of torque, and are long enough, roughly breaker bar length, to apply that torque. Picture a breaker bar with a box end on it instead of a square drive.

I usually resort to the double wrench trick, but they make tools for every conceivable application, I just have never seen anything that fits this description. It seems like it would be useful.

The leverage wrench "Can I Try?" mentioned seem to be the closest to what I am referring to.

https://www.harryepstein.com/index.php/catalogsearch/result/?q=Strike+free+leverage+wrench

I don't that these sizes were the ones that you were wanting. The prices are high, but that is likely just a reflection of the large sizes.
 
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