Do you even bother with notice???

[Challenger_2MBT]

What ever happened to exit interviews? Never had one. The employers I've worked for just do not seem interested in retaining their skilled employees. We may live in a disposable age but employees are people, not a consumable item.

 

[BFBOB]

RE: the effin' lawyers. (those are the ones hired by other people)
I've been a boss enough to have gotten calls from prospective employers of my former employees. My rigid policy was: nobody but me says ANYTHING about former employees. I say only that yes, they are former employees. Sometimes I had to say that several times before the prospective employer got the hint.
It at least has kept me from ever being sued.

The sad part is that in some cases I would have said nice things, but the safest policy is to say nothing.

 

[scarney1988]

It's very apparent that some of you have no idea of rights, laws, and just good ethics in the workplace.

Just a couple of facts (and laws in many states), regarding rights on firing and quitting;
- If you are fired or laid off, they have to pay you up to date at that time.
- If you quit, they don't. They are only obligated to pay you by the standard pay cycle.

...

For some insight and education, google the phrase "right to work state".

Please see post #66 to bring yourself up to speed on the laws regarding the OP.

 

[Jsf721]

I would speak to the wage and hour people in you state office. They cannot hold your money based on the fact the customer did not pay. I have the same issue and many weeks everyone gets paid but the owners!

Mechanice lean is for people who dont pay.

 

[Wanna Ride]

Please see post #66 to bring yourself up to speed on the laws regarding the OP.

A tad bit confident, I see.

That's Louisiana. Notice I did not say "all" states? Nor, did I ever say I was referring to "Louisiana". I didn't say "most" states either. I didn't say states neighboring Louisiana, or states that start with the letter L.

I said "many". Now, we can split hairs and dedicate several pages to exactly how many, is "many". But I'll simply say... it's more than one. That should define it close enough, for sake of this conversation.

But again, just in case it whizzed past you... I did not say "Louisiana", or "all states".

I've been an employee for over 31 years, and also own a company that employes several employees for over ten years. As an employee, I've been a manager/supervisor for a company of over 3500 employees, for more than 15 years. We have direct training on state laws regarding employee rights, many times annually. Contrary to what you may think, I'm confident that I'm aware of employee rights, governed where we are employed.

And I'll add, you're perfectly entitled to believe whatever you desire. I'm not here to evaluate your skills or knowledge, nor do I care how inadequate they may be.

Feel free to move on to other important arguments, like HF coupons, or green screwdriver handles are better than orange ones. Thanks!

 

[scarney1988]

A tad bit confident, I see.

That's Louisiana. Notice I did not say "all" states? I never said I was referring to Louisiana. I didn't say "most" states either. I didn't say states neighboring Louisiana, or states that start with the letter L.

I said "many". Now, we can split hairs and dedicate several pages to exactly how many, is "many". But I'll simply say... it's more than one. That should define it close enough, for sake of this conversation.

But again, just in case it whizzed past you... I did not say "Louisiana".

Don't be overdramatic its unbecoming for a GJ member.

 

[scarney1988]

A tad bit confident, I see.

That's Louisiana. Notice I did not say "all" states? Nor, did I ever say I was referring to "Louisiana". I didn't say "most" states either. I didn't say states neighboring Louisiana, or states that start with the letter L.

I said "many". Now, we can split hairs and dedicate several pages to exactly how many, is "many". But I'll simply say... it's more than one. That should define it close enough, for sake of this conversation.

But again, just in case it whizzed past you... I did not say "Louisiana", or "all states".

I've been an employee for over 31 years, and also own a company that employes several employees for over ten years. As an employee, I've been a manager/supervisor for a company of over 3500 employees, for more than 15 years. We have direct training on state laws regarding employee rights, many times annually. Contrary to what you may think, I'm confident that I'm aware of employee rights, governed where we are employed.

And I'll add, you're perfectly entitled to believe whatever you desire. I'm not here to evaluate your skills or knowledge, nor do I care how inadequate they may be.

Feel free to move on to other important arguments, like HF coupons, or green screwdriver handles are better than orange ones. Thanks!

Your credentials are admirable, but I haven't even tried to insult you or imply that you are unqualified to offer advice. Glad to hear you have been fortunate enough to maintain gainful employment for 15+ years. Your employer must pay you correctly and on time, unlike the OP's.

I did (more) research to provide the OP with the rules applicable to him/her in their respective state. You offered generic advice which may, or may not, apply to him.

Advice is often worth the price paid even when it is coming from myself.

Do they offer sensitivity training at your management classes??? Yes, that is supposed to be joke and not an insult. Please laugh

 

[scotte]

as a small auto repair shop owner I have always appreciated the 2 week notice vs the employee just walking (losing 1 employee in a 2-3 person shop is painful from a work scheduling standpoint)

i can understand not allowing the employee to work the last 2 weeks ONLY if there are MAJOR problems going on

i have avoided the flat rate b.s.(from both sides) by switching to straight hourly pay so far it has worked out ok (i would like to figure out an hourly-incentive pay system that really works)

as far as references goes if i get a call i will only tell them employment start-stop dates for legal reasons

 

[Danglerb]

Legally you can't say anything about an employee that quits, but it would be REAL rare that the new employer after hearing the bad news tells the person any details on why they aren't being hired.

One place I worked a kid found a new job, came in to work and flipped off his boss and generally acted *** until security walked him to the gate. Few days later I was standing next to his boss when the new place called about a reference and it wasn't pretty. Discipline problem, late to work, needs direct supervision, very junior level work, not eligible for rehire, on and on.

 

[rick carpenter]

My rigid policy was: nobody but me says ANYTHING about former employees. I say only that yes, they are former employees. Sometimes I had to say that several times before the prospective employer got the hint.
It at least has kept me from ever being sued.

The sad part is that in some cases I would have said nice things, but the safest policy is to say nothing.

I've got a friend who was the former assistant director of HR at a large institutional employer who said that was their policy too.

 

[Danglerb]

The bigger the company the less likely they will say anything. The smaller the shop the more likely everybody in the local trade knows the next day.

 

[arms1970]

My only comment on this entire subject is that it depends.

Where I work now, there's strict policy about taking a job with a competitor, i.e. it becomes your automatic last day when you accept the outside offer. Some folks give their bosses a heads up that they're planning to accept something outside that would put them in such a circumstance, but not everyone.

Case in point, I know of one person who despised his current leadership so much that he strolled over at the end of the day, told his boss he'd accepted a gig with a competitor and that being the end of his last day, turned and walked out.

Now, would I do that to my current leadership, no. Would I do that to at least one inhuman piece of trash I worked for in an earlier part of my career at the same company? Absolutely.

Loyalty is a two way street. When a leader or a company shows their employees no loyalty, they should expect none in return. Yes there are times when you should be the better person and do right by the company, but there are also times when turning the other cheek only gets you slapped harder. The folks that talk about getting fired after they try to put in two weeks notice would be an example of the latter.

My only other parting contribution is that some bridges are worth burning, even if only to make sure you never go back across them yourself.

WEll Said, all depends on the situation and how you're treated. It's not a perfect world. I have walked out on a few jobs. Didn't care a less. Had a job a week later. I don't own any a-hole anything.

 

[motofool33]

Step one i would sit down and have a talk with the boss/manager/owner see if they notice and or hear you and what you have to say.

If your only after whats fair then if they are wanting to keep you they will make arrangements to do so..

if not i would look for a new place and do as said earlier explain that you want to honor your prior commitments by giving proper and respectable notice. but if opportunity presents itself to leave earlier, which most employers do now then you will take it.

ive left alot of jobs and got new ones working on project basis in construction related inspection. theres always another job but it might not be in your backyard.

 

[mrjaw14]

As a believer, my character is supposed to be beyond reproach. It shall not matter to me what is done TO me, what matters is how I treat other people. Treat others how you would like to be treated. I understand hating where you work and wanting out, but just because someone isn't treating you with love and respect is not license to repay bad for bad. I understand and respect that not all people think as I do. It all comes down to how you want to live your life and if you think it matters how you treat people who mistreat you.
I've heard of cases where someone who was justified in taking action against an employer and did and it coming back to bite them when only one side of the story was told, and they had difficulty getting a job afterwards...read even though they were justified in what they did. Your character in bad situations speaks about you as a man to other people. yes, some will want to take advantage of your good naturedness, but at the end of the road I'd rather it be said that I was taken advantage of for my good and forgiving nature than I was quick to act when wronged and made people weary of dealing with me. having said that, I'm certainly not perfect and that's easier said than done, but nevertheless is something I strive for.

 

[Shadowdog500]

Quote:

Originally Posted by NC-Shaun
They kept over piling me with work while the other techs played on facebook because I was hourly and they were flat rate.

Can you explain what this means and why you were given all the work?

Flat rate employees are paid a set price to do a specific repair to a vehicle. If they aren't working on a car they aren't getting paid for their time.

Hourly employees are paid an hourly rate for every hour they are at work weather they are working on a car or not.

Chris

 

[Shadowdog500]

Did you talk to the boss yet?

How did it go?

I just re read your last post and realized that you are the only flate rate mechanic he has, and that he rest are paid hourly. Your pay structure is not the way he normally does business so maybe you just need to bring him up to speed with your expectations.

Chris