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JustinS

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Mine were hung off the ceiling joists with a 2x4. I sister-ed another 2x4 to make it a 4x4.


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Then used plastic deck post covers and trim to cover it.


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Real clean look that I wanted and cheap.

Stealing this !
 
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Aaxmym

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Mine were hung off the ceiling joists with a 2x4. I sister-ed another 2x4 to make it a 4x4.


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Then used plastic deck post covers and trim to cover it.


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Real clean look that I wanted and cheap.

That does look pretty sweet.
 

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I hate the cheap stuff that is used also! When I raised the door I tried to use real hardware at least.....


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toolmiser

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Just a thought, but what if you made the vertical piece out of square stock, and did all the bracing in the attic? I am not an engineer, or have seen one on TV.
 

JimVonBaden

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Mine were hung off the ceiling joists with a 2x4. I sister-ed another 2x4 to make it a 4x4.


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Then used plastic deck post covers and trim to cover it.


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Real clean look that I wanted and cheap.

Very nice! I might do that as well. Mine are ugly like the OP's!
 
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Aaxmym

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Ok here's what I ended up doing...

Just some Home Depot square tubing anchored to the ceiling joists in the attic space. Clean and simple. I'll paint when I get the other ones done.
 

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Dave in Mass

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Mine were hung off the ceiling joists with a 2x4. I sister-ed another 2x4 to make it a 4x4.


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Then used plastic deck post covers and trim to cover it.


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Real clean look that I wanted and cheap.

Mine don't bother me as I go for the more utilitarian look of exposed studs and open ceiling so I can just throw **** up there for storage.

With that said, this is a real nice treatment but my OCD wonders why no end caps over the bottoms. Hope that doesn't stick in your head like a bubble gum pop song until you address.

:p
 

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What many of the "solutions" are ignoring is the angle piece.
It is there to keep the tracks from spreading apart.
In a worse case instance this will let the rollers fall out of the tracks and thus the door to fall.
 
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I replaced mine with a triangular piece of sheet I bent about 3/4 of the edges over with a brake and welded the seams where they meet to stiffen them. Cut three holes with a hole saw, and painted them silver. They look pretty cool. I'll try to get a picture to post. I've thought about building one with a bead rolled face or dimpling the holes. It's not real high on my priority list to redo it since the current one looks pretty good. They are stiff and just as strong as what I removed. They just aren't ugly any more.
 

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One thing to remember, the reason that the "L" shaped strapping or whatever it is called (can't remember at the moment) is just to hold the weight, and to keep the track from shifting. The reason for the long horizontal piece on the ceiling is just to fasten to the rafters, and to hold the down piece and angled piece. Nothing more, nothing less. The angle keeps the track from shifting back and forth, and the vertical piece is to hold the track horizontal. If you get up into the attic, and run a 2x4 on edge between the rafters, you are halfway there. If you build your 2x4's above the ceiling panels, then all you need is something strong enough to prevent shifting on the garage side of the ceiling. Half of the control of the rails shifting horizontally is or can be controlled by the rollers, so all you need to control then is the vertical weight. And when it comes to the weight, it is not the total weight of the garage door, but only about a third of the door, as the vertical rail and the curved piece carries the main portion of the weight.

The "L" shaped pieces with the holes that are installed by garage door installers is just a quick, convenient, way of holding the track, and to keep the cost down of coming up with a multitude of custom hangers.

On the very first garage I built, I built it myself, and until I had things situated the way I wanted, I had bailing twine holding up the back of the tracks. So if bailing twine will do it, the rest is left up to your imagination as to what sort of custom hanger you want. Just remember, the support comes from above the ceiling between the rafters.
 
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Aaxmym

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What many of the "solutions" are ignoring is the angle piece.
It is there to keep the tracks from spreading apart.
In a worse case instance this will let the rollers fall out of the tracks and thus the door to fall.

In my case, that bracing is hidden above the ceiling sheetrock.
 

spent21

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I'll agree.

I guess the biggest reason I don't like that material is the look of being "universal" that it gives. I will always prefer something with the look of being "purpose built" (ie. no extra holes, etc.) This is obviously my **** retentive side making itself known. Contractors hate me.

You guys are offering some good ideas. Any more?

You think you're **** retentive? You obviously haven't ventured over to Rockuf8's 15' 5"W x 21' L Garage Reno...

He addressed those hangers unlike anyone else I've seen.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=196864&page=11
 

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If you hate them that much why don't you have someone make you a bracket which is more decorative or even make it yourself.
 

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the gypsy

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You can check google images of wrought iron book shelf brackets for ideas. If you use it for storing your cars you can probably build one with a car in the triangular portion of the bracket. Let your imagination run wild.

If you decide to do something original and whimsical show us your final decision.
 

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One thing to remember, the reason that the "L" shaped strapping or whatever it is called (can't remember at the moment) is just to hold the weight, and to keep the track from shifting. The reason for the long horizontal piece on the ceiling is just to fasten to the rafters, and to hold the down piece and angled piece. Nothing more, nothing less. The angle keeps the track from shifting back and forth, and the vertical piece is to hold the track horizontal. If you get up into the attic, and run a 2x4 on edge between the rafters, you are halfway there. If you build your 2x4's above the ceiling panels, then all you need is something strong enough to prevent shifting on the garage side of the ceiling. Half of the control of the rails shifting horizontally is or can be controlled by the rollers, so all you need to control then is the vertical weight. And when it comes to the weight, it is not the total weight of the garage door, but only about a third of the door, as the vertical rail and the curved piece carries the main portion of the weight.

The "L" shaped pieces with the holes that are installed by garage door installers is just a quick, convenient, way of holding the track, and to keep the cost down of coming up with a multitude of custom hangers.

On the very first garage I built, I built it myself, and until I had things situated the way I wanted, I had bailing twine holding up the back of the tracks. So if bailing twine will do it, the rest is left up to your imagination as to what sort of custom hanger you want. Just remember, the support comes from above the ceiling between the rafters.

I've always called the "L-shaped" strapping "Dexion" . A term I learned from some "old guy's" at the Skunk Works while doing a lot of Moc-Up.
 
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Aaxmym

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You think you're **** retentive? You obviously haven't ventured over to Rockuf8's 15' 5"W x 21' L Garage Reno...

He addressed those hangers unlike anyone else I've seen.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=196864&page=11

I hadn't seen that thread. I love the idea he had.

But...white door tracks. Sweet mother of all that's holy.

I have a feeling that when his space is complete there will be some type of decontamination ritual that will be mandatory before anyone is allowed to enter lol.

Aax
 

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If you like Mustangs or if not, you can put your car emblem in the place of the horse. Or for the tool lover you can put your Snap On logo or anything that depicts your passion.
 

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I made mine from 1 1/4" angle iron. They are only 8" tall and 8" wide. I painted them white to blend in with the white metal ceiling.

Chris
 
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