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I'm planning for a possible 24x32 garage and I'd like input on orientation. Do you think I will want the long 32' in length or width?
It will be the main garage for mine and my wife's daily drivers, but I also want to use the extra space to store and work on a Miata. Do I want the extra space on the side or in the back? On the side I think it will feel cramped, but extra rear space will require sliding the Miata in sideways? I only want to have one large 16x7 door, because I don't like the look of three car garages and it will save money.
 
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You will need a wider door for 2 vehicles to go through. I would look at putting a 2nd door on the side at the rear.
 

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Every "working garage" with all the guys I raced with...the guys on their second/third home and garage build all went deeper than wider from experience, it just works better if you plan to work on stuff.

I can admit to that too helping on their cars, bringing mine in...the shallow wide garages were a pita, and the deeper ones allowed plenty of room for the bench, in front of car where most of the works takes place anyhow.
 

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Is that the max size you can go?

I would go 32 wide and have the door to one side . I would go 34 plus wide and put the header in, incase you ever want to add another door.

I had a 26 x26 garage once and was able to park 3 wide (ranger , mustang and ****** ,very tight though) And was able to get four in once for a winter . (3 wide and one in front.

I now have 24x 36 deep on the two car side and 12x 24 on the 3rd car side. Thirty six feet is not deep enough to put anything in front if you park cars two deep.

Is that the max size you can go?:)
 

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If you really want 3 cars in there and you have the space I'd do 32 wide with a 18 foot and 10 foot door.

If you really can't stand the 3 doors and the miata isn't used all that much you could just do the 18 foot door.

I'd think you'd need a fair amount of depth to maneuver the miata over into the 3rd stall if you didn't have a door there.

How much room do you have to maneuver in to the garage? What are your vehicles? Do you have a 16' now?

My garage is on an a fairly narrow alley, wife drives a ford flex, I drive a fusion. We have a 10' door and 16'. I park in the 10 and the wife parks in the 16. On our old garage we had a 16' only. It was OK but if one of us didn't park perfect it was tight to get in and you'd end up backing up and pulling forward.
 

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I'm planning for a possible 24x32 garage and I'd like input on orientation. Do you think I will want the long 32' in length or width?
It will be the main garage for mine and my wife's daily drivers, but I also want to use the extra space to store and work on a Miata. Do I want the extra space on the side or in the back? On the side I think it will feel cramped, but extra rear space will require sliding the Miata in sideways? I only want to have one large 16x7 door, because I don't like the look of three car garages and it will save money.

Regarding the layout, I'd vote for 32' x 24' if your land allows for the wider garage. Thus, if left side of property then garage door would be on left side and then man door towards the right side. Benefit of this is useable space all together by man door without having to move the vehicles. This layout downfall is your curb view of garage is all that roof. With this layout, I'd consider adding dormers on roof for some windows to get natural light. Also couple windows over by man door (ie one on either side) will let in more natural light and break up that bland space.

If I was starting from scratch to design, I'd want bigger than 24' if you choose the above layout as full-size pickup barely fits in there. I'd go for something like 32' x 30' if that would work on your lot.

Finally, think you'll want 16' x 8' garage door, at minimum. Good luck with design.
 
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You also need to consider code requirements in your area regarding door and space between OHD width.

We "used to" be able to build the walls between OHD as narrow as 24", code back in '08 changed and now we have to shoot for 30" with a single sheet of OSB over the exterior...if we go below 30" we need to provide structural plans engineer stamped to show how the wall will be built and OSB layers inside and out/nail sizes/nailing pattern to ensure it's structurally sound and wont rack due to lack of width....MAJOR PITA and it was a literal game changer in garage layout design.

Also, 16' wide doors will work for 2 midsize cars. The PITA point s the fact one has to be pulled in at an angle if the other is pulled in straight in order for both side doors of the car to be opened for entry/exit. Every garage I sold I explained to people on first site visit when hasing details that fact with a 16' door, and then for a minor increase in inital cost, going to an 18' OHD so you can pull the cars in straight and just go about your day business as usual.

If you want to plan ahead, go for 9' finished ceiling height minimum and at least 8' tall doors. 7' doors are all buy a thing of the past and 8' tall is the new standard. Cant remember the last build we installed a 7' door unless we were retro fitting new doors into an existing garage.
 

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I am just finishing up a 28x38 garage, I made 2 , 10x8 overhead doors on the gable end for daily drivers,then put a single 10x8 overhead at the far end for my work shop, this will be for pulling vehicles in to work on,change oil,etc.

When I designed it I always came back to this design, as we all know what a pain it is to have to move vehicles in and out to get at something you need.

I live in alberta so also ordered the Steelcraft T-16 overhead doors, gives you R16 value.

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Wow! I didn't expect that many responses in under an hour. Here's some more information based on the questions.
The cars are all relatively small, wife drives a Fusion and I have a Focus (smaller first generation). Although we may have to get something larger, since the Fusion is getting small for two kids.
I will consider the 18x8 door for easier parking and to accommodate taller vehicles. Is a 20x8 door a common size?
The size is restricted to roughly 900 sqft by the city based on a percentage of house size. This would allow up to a 24x36, but that might be overkill for my situation. Plus I currently have a 14x20 one car garage which will become extra storage and space for small projects.
The new garage will be setback about 10 feet of the back alley, so I should have room to maneuver vehicles.
 

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If you are limited to 900 sqft, I think I would go for a 28x32. It'll give you plenty of room in front of the vehicles and plenty of room off to the side for a work area. Personally, I prefer two O/H doors over one large single one.


BTW, adding a general location under your screen name will also help guys give you advice in the future.
 

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The house we just moved into last July has a 3 car that is 21 deep x 31 wide. We have a 16 foot single door and another single door. I have just recently been able to get both vehicles in our garage and I must say it is cramped between them and around the front and back. I would love to have an extra 3 feet of depth. I would love to have about another 2-3 feet of width because my single door side is nearly flush with the wall. My single car side is only about 19 foot deep.

Oh yeah I drive a Jeep commander and my wife drives a newer Honda CRV. We have 2 kids. Luckily they are old enough to fasten their own seat belts because there is little to no room to have our doors open wide enough for us to do it.

But I shouldn't complain many of the other 3 car garages around this neighborhood are smaller. At least in width they are. Some ore a tad deeper and those guys have built their storage lofts and benches into the extra depth.
 

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24 is wide enough. Like several others have stated, you want it deep so you can put work bench in front of the vehicles.
 

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Due to zoning, and a little 'look the other way' from the building inspector, I built a 32X26 with an 18x8 and 9x8 doors. (I really wanted a 36x28, but zoning only allowed 800 sq ft)

Up until last fall I had just enough room to keep my fullsize GMC truck, my wifes Chevy trailblazer, and my '71 Cutlass.
Work space was non-existent with all 3 vehicles in there. I usually just kept my truck outside until winter.
It's not a good feeling when there is 1/2 hail pounding your truck in a storm and you can't bring it in because there is no room....

I just extended the width to 38 in the fall, best thing I ever did.
Now that I installed a Maxjax, I wish I could have gone deeper than 26'. I can keep the lift in place full time, but its a bit cramped getting in and out of the truck, but not bad enough to warrant removing the lift tho'.
Another 2-4' in depth would be awesome for me.
 

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Wow! I didn't expect that many responses in under an hour. Here's some more information based on the questions.
The cars are all relatively small, wife drives a Fusion and I have a Focus (smaller first generation). Although we may have to get something larger, since the Fusion is getting small for two kids.
I will consider the 18x8 door for easier parking and to accommodate taller vehicles. Is a 20x8 door a common size?
The size is restricted to roughly 900 sqft by the city based on a percentage of house size. This would allow up to a 24x36, but that might be overkill for my situation. Plus I currently have a 14x20 one car garage which will become extra storage and space for small projects.
The new garage will be setback about 10 feet of the back alley, so I should have room to maneuver vehicles.

You have small cars now, but as i told all potential clients, you owe it to yourself to think long term, and expect the unexpected. most garage builds we did were for guys that liked to tinker on their own stuff in one way shape or form...very few we ever did for a skill-less soccer dad that held a desk job and used a garage for nothing but storage...so if you can swing the budget, you are always better off to go as big as you can go within your alloted budget, or at least during construction design it for future addition so it will make the job faster/easier when that time comes and you have more free budget.

I understand the 900sqft thing. Here we have basically 1 major rule zoning looking at first and foremost on the site plan and when they pull up your property info...no more than 30% of the property can be under roof. Many times this required us to demo a shed or another outdoor structure in order to free up sqftage to meet the homeowners new garage size they wanted....you can do the wink wink deal and remove that existing single stall garage, or have it moved off site, build a larger garage, then bring it back in as a shed once your signed off on and hopefully it wont be an issue down the road...we have also been able to, in a single case we had like yours, demo the concrete floor in the single stall garage and bring in rock....they, the city, then reclassified it as a movable structure and did'nt count that as area under roof which allowed us to increase garage size...food for thought.

20'x7 or 8' are NOT common, they can be special ordered obviously...16'/18'x7 or 8' are common doors and often stocked at home centers. I can tell you with all honesty, before committing to a homecenter OHD where your purchasing materials from, you can often UPGRADE to a much higher quality door from an actual OHD company. We used to order OHD with our packages and install them ourselves, then i got connected with an OHD company and for $150 i got a much higher quality (thicker guage metal/better R value) than the "5 star" OHD's we had been pruchasing through homecenters...and the BIG KICKER, they only charged me $200-250 per door installation...I could'nt put my guys on it for that, so I just started specing and subbing out that aspect since it gave the customer an even better product for the same money.

Like I said though, find out what your city will allow for wall width. NBC has changed ALOT over the years and there is now a minimum wall width we have to abide by unless we want to get into sheeting the wall inside and out with double layer plywood and a specific nailing schedule to meet the sheer code they now have in effect. We've all seen garages with 12" wall between OHD's or at the corners of a building...they are simply not allowed here anymore due to code and it forced us to redo man door layouts to achieve minimum wall widths for code, or an increased cost for structural interior/exterior wall sheeting/nailing schedule...you absolutely do not want to just build what you want only to have an inspector come by for the final and say "these walls are too narrow, you have to do x,x,x,x,x before i will sign off....because each one of those requirements will be VERY time and VERY budget unfriendly.
 
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24' wide x 32' deep and 18'x8' door would be a no-brainer for my uses.
Aesthetically, it won't look as overbearing.
Overhead wall storage/cabinets along side walls will not interfere with car door opening and allow for hanging storage of shovels, rakes etc. under the cabinets.
Plenty of width for the widest of vehicles and depth will allow for a sizable boat, limo, dragster or whatever you or the next owner may want to play around with!
Front of the building could be cheaper to match if you had a brick home... Brick in front, siding on sides and rear.
I'm struggling to find the benefit of being 32 wide unless you have more than one door.
 

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With a VW Routan (mini-van...which really isn't "mini") and a VW Passat in our garage we can get through our 16' garage door with inches to spare as long as you enter straight in. My wife and I would be much happier with an 18' wide door.

Go deeper instead of wider. If at all possible, look at having the ceiling as high as possible. You may get into some good luck and be able to get a lift -- scissor/4-post/2-post doesn't matter, it's still a lift and you still want a tall ceiling to get plenty of clearance.

Echoing what others have said, plan for the future and go as big/wide/deep/tall as you can. Believe us, climate-controlled space is much more pleasant to work in and you'll be wishing you had more space once you're 'moved' in and working.
 
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I would go with more depth. My garage is 30 deep and it makes for lots of room in the fron...or if you pull all the way in, you have room for a tractor etc. My garage is 36' wide and sometimes I think I should have switched the dimensions....
 

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I'm surprised how many people say they need more depth than width. Is seems like with a 24" deep work bench that would allow enough space in front for most cars and most work except an engine removal.
In the 14 foot wide one car garage I never have enough width to comfortably work on brakes or suspension. Although I do have some shelves and tools stashed on either side. Now that I think about it, it seems like I need about 3-4 feet of open space around the car (or at least whatever side I'm working on).
Based on that, I think 24 deep by 36 wide makes the most sense. It is a smart idea to add the header for a single OHD on the third bay in case I ever want to add it. But I'm still open to input/ideas.
 

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I'm surprised how many people say they need more depth than width. Is seems like with a 24" deep work bench that would allow enough space in front for most cars and most work except an engine removal.
In the 14 foot wide one car garage I never have enough width to comfortably work on brakes or suspension. Although I do have some shelves and tools stashed on either side. Now that I think about it, it seems like I need about 3-4 feet of open space around the car (or at least whatever side I'm working on).
Based on that, I think 24 deep by 36 wide makes the most sense. It is a smart idea to add the header for a single OHD on the third bay in case I ever want to add it. But I'm still open to input/ideas.

really?? LMFAO
 

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Another thing to consider when thinking about 1 door or 2 doors is a security issue. If you do most of your work on one side of the garage and just basically park a car on the other side you can keep the door closed on the work side. That way you can have one door open for air/ventilation and no one can see what you are doing, what tools you have, what equipment is in your garage. Don't know if your doors will be visable from the street or road but just something else to think about.
 

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My old garage was 24' deep X 36' wide. My new garage will be 32' deep X 32' wide. Extra depth is the way to go.
 

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Extra depth always seems to give you the best floor layout. I would guess that given no limitations, 30X36 or 30X40 are probably the most popular sizes of home garages/shops.

You might call a couple of your local builders a pick their brain as to their ideas.

Brian
 

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I am currently working on a car in a 30 x 36 garage. It is just large enough for tools and to allow us to work on the project with room all around the car. What is really nice is we don't have to spend an hour cleaning up just to park the family vehicles inside overnight. I know that constant setup and tear-down is a real pain.
 

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No matter what you do you'll wish you would have done it differently :bounce:

Experience and actually getting into various garages for ideas is key. Garages seem to be very personally built..what is in my head is not what my brother sees, etc..
All that being said, I think 30w is perfect width.. 28w isnt quite wide enough to fling open the doors of a parked fullsize car/truck and have room to walk around or shop vac out the mats. Go 32w and you suddendly have room to collect junk around the wall perimeter....right back to the effective 28-29' width and have to contend with clutter.
Depth...cant answer you there, I went 50'...

Wow...I dont know how you guys can live in places where the guvmit tells you what you can & cant do for a garage.
 

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Width priority over length until you get to at least 28' wide and 18' wide garage door.

If you put cabinets on both sides of garage you'll need the room... plus it gives you lots or room to swing that car door wide open without a thought.
 

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I have a 20' wide by 24' deep garage. This is large for a residential garage. I love the depth, however I wish it was wider so I could install soffit shelving all the way around. I can't build soffit shelving next to my garage door hangars...too close.
 

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I have a 24x30, I drive straight in on the 24' side & it's 30 wide. I have a full size 96 f-150 8 ft. bed & standard cab & I have a 2' deep workbench in the back of the garage & that gives me just enough room to walk around one end of the truck well about 2 ft of walk room just barely enough with the workbench in front of the truck. If I were to do it again i'd want it at least 4 more ft. deep but a really nice one would be 30 deep & 40 wide but if I ever sell this house I'd really like to have something even bigger.

I have one 16' x 8' overhead door & one 8' X 8' overhead door, & a side entry door.
 
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I chose to build mine 30 x 40 with a 10 ft door and a 12 ft door pushed to 1 side. Plenty of room for just about anything i want to do.Ill be posting up a build thread soon. Just trying to gather up some pics and take some more. Id say 30 deep is max then go wider from there. Wish i had money for 30x60. :D
 
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