Dodge hemi tools?

[l_bilyk]

Has anyone heard of these? Anyone know who makes them?

http://www.dodgehemipowertools.com/

 

[boiler7904]

The website says that the manufacturer is B3 Brands from Richmond Hills Ontario...whoever that is. The tools don't look like anything else on the market that I'm aware of, at least in the U.S.

 

[dink]

They are positioned below all the big names in terms of quality....about even with Panasonic.....mainly for your ho hum DIY'r

 

[Jay H 237]

They are positioned below all the big names in terms of quality....about even with Panasonic.....mainly for your ho hum DIY'r

Here's a link to B3 Brands main site. They appear to be a newer manufacturer, started in the last year or so with 3 current brands, Dodge Hemi, PowerWorks, and Viper.

They mention about offering thier tools at home centers and Tractor Supply Stores. Now I've been to HD and TSC and I've yet to see this brand.

dink hit the nail on the head as being a DIY supplier, they even mention it on thier site.

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

Clever marketing ploy.

I would just as soon take my chances on a Harbor Freight model w/extended warranty and slap a COBRA JET Sticker on it.

Speaking of Hemi. I love to watch people trip all over themselves when I ask such boastful people what makes a Hemi so different and special. Most times I get "Because it is a Hemi!!!".

Many people who own them have no idea of why it is truly called a Hemi. If you dont know (Hint: Think with your head) then google it.

-BWP

 

[Iron-Iceberg]

Costco on line.
www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11122741&search=tools&Sp=S&Mo=115&cm_re=1-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&N=0&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=All&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=tools&Ntt=tools&No=8&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

 

[kartracer55]

Read the B3 site... it seems to imply they are made in canada

"B3 Brands Inc. is situated in Richmond Hill, Ontario Canada where our new 200,000 square ft. facility houses our manufacturing and warehouse. Our in-house manufacturing capabilities include a tool and die plant with precision stamping equipment from 50 to 200 tons."

BTW, Panasonic drills are actually supposed to be damn good quality for the $$$, or at least I have heard (from woodworks...for what its worth lol)

Jim

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

Read the B3 site... it seems to imply they are made in canada

"B3 Brands Inc. is situated in Richmond Hill, Ontario Canada where our new 200,000 square ft. facility houses our manufacturing and warehouse. Our in-house manufacturing capabilities include a tool and die plant with precision stamping equipment from 50 to 200 tons."

BTW, Panasonic drills are actually supposed to be damn good quality for the $$$, or at least I have heard (from woodworks...for what its worth lol)

Jim

Kart,

99.9% of the time I am inclined agreee with you, but I disagree with you on this one. I will re bold certain words of what you cut and pasted off their site:

"B3 Brands Inc. is situated in Richmond Hill, Ontario Canada where our new 200,000 square ft. facility houses our manufacturing and warehouse. Our in-house manufacturing capabilities include a tool and die plant with precision stamping equipment from 50 to 200 tons."

They warehouse tools, and all they truly have to do is produce items that have been stamped in some way.

Like you said, Implied they were made in Canada.

Wouldn't you think they would be proud to mention that their tools were made there instead of leading you to imply?

IMHO they are overseas made, rebadged and stored there until they are shipped.

-bwp

 

[l_bilyk]

Yeah I think they are imported and badged in ontario.

It's odd that dodge would license the name for a chinese drill though.

 

[KeukaDan]

Just because a company has a warehouse does not mean nor imply that they import, all it states is that they manufacture, assemble or sell product. It states nothing about the manufacturing. I am an engineer in a fortune 500 company that has a many warehouses in every plant yet still makes products in the US.

I would guess that the are assembled in Canada with international parts.

As to Panasonic tools, they are actually considered to be pretty good.

Kart,

99.9% of the time I am inclined agreee with you, but I disagree with you on this one. I will re bold certain words of what you cut and pasted off their site:

"B3 Brands Inc. is situated in Richmond Hill, Ontario Canada where our new 200,000 square ft. facility houses our manufacturing and warehouse. Our in-house manufacturing capabilities include a tool and die plant with precision stamping equipment from 50 to 200 tons."

They warehouse tools, and all they truly have to do is produce items that have been stamped in some way.

Like you said, Implied they were made in Canada.

Wouldn't you think they would be proud to mention that their tools were made there instead of leading you to imply?

IMHO they are overseas made, rebadged and stored there until they are shipped.

-bwp

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

Since they do have a customer support number, I am going to call tommorrow and find out the true story.

I will post the results.

-BWP

 

[kartracer55]

BWP, You were correct... I tip my hat lol

"B3 has invested in a state-of-the-art 1.3 million square foot manufacturing plant in
China, with its own in-house engineering and quality control departments and its
new Head Office houses a 200,000 sq ft manufacturing and warehouse facility."

I sent them an email so Ill post the reply when I get one, hopefully I can get a bit more info from them but I found this little passage in one of thier advertisements or soemthing of the like

Jim

 

[Willy Victor]

They are positioned below all the big names in terms of quality....about even with Panasonic.....mainly for your ho hum DIY'r

Panasonic battery operated tools are top of the line.

Willy

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

Panasonic battery operated tools are top of the line.

Willy

Panasonic makes quality tools.

They certainly do not deserve to be lumped in with a B3 badge engineered gimmick tool with the target customers being gift shoppers (wife/girlfriend(s)) of a guy who owns a vehicle with a Hemi (or wants to own a vehicle with a Hemi).

-BWP

 

[wilbilt]

Panasonic makes quality tools.

They certainly do not deserve to be lumped in with a B3 badge engineered gimmick tool with the target customers being gift shoppers (wife/girlfriend(s)) of a guy who owns a vehicle with a Hemi (or wants to own a vehicle with a Hemi).

-BWP

Ditto that. I have an AEG-branded 9.6V 1/2" drill that is a rebadged Panasonic. It is more than several years old, so batteries have become difficult to find.

Imagine my surprise when I found out the 9.6V Milwaukee of the same vintage is a Panasonic as well. Although the Milwaukee variant has a 3/8" chuck, it uses the same batteries.....which are readily available...

The thing just won't die. It will run 1" hole saws through 3/8" plate all day long, as long as you keep it fed with batteries...

Will

 

[kartracer55]

Alright, I got a reply...

Hello Jim,

Thank you for your inquiry.

Yes, our products are manufactured in China. Of course, we would like to expand our US market.

Kind regards,

Catherine Chan lol ironic?

They at least had a fast reply

 

[krooser]

Yeah I think they are imported and badged in ontario.

It's odd that dodge would license the name for a chinese drill though.

I really think they could care less...

 

[wilbilt]

I don't think they could care less...

I think they care a lot....for the $$$ received in exchange for zero effort.

Let your predecessors build a good name...then sell it. Seems to be a popular theme these days.

 

[SuperKid]

What a joke. This is another reason why I hate the new Dodge. (I say "new" because the Dodge of today, isn't the same Dodge of yesteryear. Dodge isn't even an American automaker anymore, IMO) Dodge is all flash and no substance. They make a point of saying "Hemi" in just about every commercial. The Hemi is nothing but a marketing ploy. Dodge didn't invent it, and they're not the only one's that use it. They were just the first to figure out that people are suckers and will buy something because a bunch of pencil pushers have burned the notion that the Hemi is the greatest thing ever into their brains. These tools are the same idea.

edit: Oh yeah, you can disagree with me all you want. It's simply my opinion.

 

[l_bilyk]

The Hemi is nothing but a marketing ploy. Dodge didn't invent it, and they're not the only one's that use it. They were just the first to figure out that people are suckers and will buy something because a bunch of pencil pushers have burned the notion that the Hemi is the greatest thing ever into their brains.

You mean like... ram air?

 

[SuperKid]

You mean like... ram air?

Exactly. Being a consumer is getting harder and harder. You have to cut through all of the marketing BS and figure out what truly is good and what's just good because a marketing firm tells you it is.

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

Just because a company has a warehouse does not mean nor imply that they import, all it states is that they manufacture, assemble or sell product. It states nothing about the manufacturing. I am an engineer in a fortune 500 company that has a many warehouses in every plant yet still makes products in the US.

I would guess that the are assembled in Canada with international parts.

As to Panasonic tools, they are actually considered to be pretty good.

Dan,

Seems these exceptional HEMI tools are made in China.

To quote Superkid "You have to cut through all of the marketing BS and figure out what truly is good and what's just good because a marketing firm tells you it is."

In my own words: Got to read between the lines and pay attention to detail.

P.S. I have a CORVETTE Vacuum (anyone remember those) that I paid $2.00 for at a flea market. It was made in the 90's. Hmmm made overseas, not in Kentucky.

-BWP

 

[eschoendorff]

P.S. I have a great CORVETTE Vacuum (anyone remember those) that was made in the 90's. Hmmm made overseas.

-BWP

Hey... I have a Corvette made in the 90s, but my smartass brother put this on the steering wheel when I wasn't looking

 

[KeukaDan]

Dan,

Seems these exceptional HEMI tools are made in China.

To quote Superkid "You have to cut through all of the marketing BS and figure out what truly is good and what's just good because a marketing firm tells you it is."

In my own words: Got to read between the lines and pay attention to detail.

P.S. I have a great CORVETTE Vacuum (anyone remember those) that was made in the 90's. Hmmm made overseas.

-BWP

As I said in my post, the logic used was bad even if the theory was correct. It doesnt matter to me where they make the tools as I would never buy a product with the Dodge name on it, car, truck or otherwise. Now that being said, I also mentioned that I felt they were made from international parts and could be assembled in Canada but that is likely it, even if it goes that far. The important thing is for people to as you said "pay attention to detail". I do although feel that when people "read between the lines" they get themselves into trouble. You need to use logic when you do this. Stating that they have a wharehouse does not mean they manufacture in China. I believe that if you are going to voice your theories, your logic needs to be good. It doesnt do anyone good to spread bad information if you dont use good logic, just like the thread involving the craftsman warranty. There has never been any real evidence that it is going away but yet people have all sorts of theories which just turn people away from those tools for no reason.

To sum that all up Please use good logic when you make guesses on things you dont really know.

 

[Blacknwhitepit]

As I said in my post, the logic used was bad even if the theory was correct. It doesnt matter to me where they make the tools as I would never buy a product with the Dodge name on it, car, truck or otherwise. Now that being said, I also mentioned that I felt they were made from international parts and could be assembled in Canada but that is likely it, even if it goes that far. The important thing is for people to as you said "pay attention to detail". I do although feel that when people "read between the lines" they get themselves into trouble. You need to use logic when you do this. Stating that they have a wharehouse does not mean they manufacture in China. I believe that if you are going to voice your theories, your logic needs to be good. It doesnt do anyone good to spread bad information if you dont use good logic, just like the thread involving the craftsman warranty. There has never been any real evidence that it is going away but yet people have all sorts of theories which just turn people away from those tools for no reason.

To sum that all up Please use good logic when you make guesses on things you dont really know.

Dan,

I don't guess, or gamble.

New Heritage Dictionary defintion of Logic The study of the principles of reasoning, especially of the structure of propositions as distinguished from their content and of method and validity in deductive reasoning.

I was not guessing when I stated these tools were made overseas. I stated it was my humble opinion. Due to logic.

Logic was applied in my analysis of the company, its website, the products and the marketing technique. All of which I would bore people with my "logic". I can spell it out more, but I just went to the bottom line.

"live long and prosper". LOL!

-BWP

 

[KeukaDan]

I totally agree that as long as everything was taken into account then your opinion is good but in the first post you stated

They warehouse tools, and all they truly have to do is produce items that have been stamped in some way.

Like you said, Implied they were made in Canada.

I am simply stating that I don't feel that that is a good enough reason to determine that they manufacture over seas. Now that being said, my first opinion was that they are foreign tools and that they are just assembled at the most in Canada.

In any case this discussion is moot as we do know they are made in China and your thoughts happened to be right. I just feel that online forums can be filled with lots of bad information when incomplete statements are made. If you feel that they are made in China state all of the reasons that you have deduced, not just a couple which are circumstantial.

P.S. I know the definition of logic, I don't need to be given it. If I use a word, I know what it means otherwise it would be giving false information on a forum.