does a 5pt socket exist?

[metaleltr]

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...roup_ID=683139&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

not sure how they are set up but may need an extension and definitely a ratchet, breaker bar or t handle

 

[jal395]

Part of wanting to avoid the dealer is because of the anticipated costs. I'm not really interested in Snap On's offering because I perceive it to be overkill (and overpriced). The replacement tool from the dealer is around $20.

 

[jal395]

One bump for the evening crowd. Any ideas are more than welcome. Thank you.

 

[JBradley500]

I've used a pipe wrench on the one occasion I came across a 5 point nut.

 

[metaldad]

seems that Mc master Carr carries only one size, 13/16, in 3/8 & 1/2 drive.
They do have Armstrong, as their premium line.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#drive-sockets/=s61mpt

 

[jal395]

I ended up buying the tool from the dealer. It seemed like the best thing to do even considering the cost, around $20. It's part number 51942-28010 and goes by the name "Handle, Spare Wheel Carrier Bolt" or "Handle, Spare Wheel" Google the part number and you can find it rather easily. I'm hot linking a picture below, I hope that's okay.

 

[j-guenth]

You can order on line from Snap-On. Most truck dealers do not carry them. The Snap-On # B2190.

 

[whiskeyding]

51942-28010

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[shanny19]

Helpful crowd here on GJ. Where else would someone resurrect a 2 year old thread to quote a part number from two posts up??

 

[iScream]

I don't know for sure about this 5 point but your home center probably has a big t-handle tool for actually shutting off the water valve. If anybody reading this doesn't know how to shut off the water supply to your house you should go look at it today. It's not something you want to be figuring it out when you need to shut the water off.

 

[speed bump]

I found my hydrant wrench at an estate sale about 6 months ago. I was able to get it for $2 because no one at the sale knew what it even was and they just wanted everything gone. Before I bought it, I was thinking of trying and/or slightly modifying an older monkey wrench (of the style in the picture) to work as a 5pt hydrant wrench. I think it would work just fine, but you might have to remove the toothed jaw insert and/or grind a slightly different angle in the top part of the head for it to work perfectly.

As a side note- In a pinch I think you would be much better off using a regular pipe wrench instead of a large basin wrench. It will chew up the 5pt fitting a little bit, but it will work just fine. Basin wrenches work fine for plumbing related tasks, but I would be surprised if they had enough clamping force to dig into the metal and hold tight for the higher torque levels required for a fire hydrant valve.

I picked up one of these wrenches at an auction a while ago. Always wondered what it was, thanks for clearing it up.

 

[csargents1546]

Picked one up at a pawn shop years ago for .99 cents. It is a so. Only used it once when my main shut off in the house was leaking.

 

[thebeekeeper1]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the OP's house will almost certainly have a shut-off valve near the meter--usually in a basement or "wet closet" near the water heater.

 

[Wakefield]

There is a T handle that is about 3 or 4 feet long that Water Sewer carries that I think does that,I don't know whether it is a bigger socket or the same on the end (might be the same as to open the cover Buffalo socket)

 

[thebeekeeper1]

There is a T handle that is about 3 or 4 feet long that Water Sewer carries that I think does that,I don't know whether it is a bigger socket or the same on the end (might be the same as to open the cover Buffalo socket)

Menards sells the T-handled wrenches in several lengths for about ten bucks.

 

[Petey156]

H1 hummers used them to hold the 2 piece wheels together,

 

[Alchymist]

Chrysler sells a large one to remove their hood ornaments.

 

[The Cobbler]

So the 5-point removes the cap. What tool actually closes the gate valve 4' below ground?

a rod about 5/8" diameter with a slot in the end .

 

[iScream]

a rod about 5/8" diameter with a slot in the end .

Yep. In Texas, at least on the north side of DFW, there wasn't any kind of lock or anything to get into the shut off valve and meter. There was a cement cover over the little hole in the ground with a metal flip up panel which was something like 3" wide by 6" long. The tool I had, which I realized just today I left with my father in law when I moved to TN, had a little hook on the top for opening that metal panel and the business end was similar to what you see above.

There wasn't much room at all to get pliers or any other tool in through that 3" X 6" opening and twist the valve.

I probably haven't looked at it close enough but I think it's about the same here in TN. I also remember a very similar setup in Lawton OK when we would go visit my grandmother every year while I grew up. The neighborhood kids would go down the street opening the meter panels and looking for snakes inside.

Never did get to see a rattler but I was told they weren't too hard to come by. I know my grandmother found one in her washing machine once, which was in her garage.