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Does anyone else HATE socket holder strips/rails?

durallymax

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Just redid my entire drawer with the plastic rails. Love them. Let me consolidate three drawers into one and then some. Sure you can't Id the socket as fast, but for someone working out of their box every day that's not a huge issue because you just learn where they are at anyways. If you guess wrong once and awhile it isn't a huge deal. Not to me at least. I wanted my real estate back.

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After

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durallymax

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What plastic rails did you use? ^^^
Combination of husky and craftsman. Bought the stores out locally of both in certain sizes. We have two sears and two home Depot. They don't like stocking the 1/2" ones apparently.

Harbor freight had plenty but those were terrible so I didn't use them.

The ones that came with the Carlyle sockets are identical to the husky ones. The craftsman are different than the husky.
 

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Just redid my entire drawer with the plastic rails. Love them. Let me consolidate three drawers into one and then some. Sure you can't Id the socket as fast, but for someone working out of their box every day that's not a huge issue because you just learn where they are at anyways. If you guess wrong once and awhile it isn't a huge deal. Not to me at least. I wanted my real estate back.

Before.

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After

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For someone making a living at it, I can see the advantage of everything at your disposal in 1 drawer, I am guessing I would do the same. But as a weekend warrior, I actually prefer the uncluttered neatness of the "before", even if it is 3 drawers.
 

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Combination of husky and craftsman. Bought the stores out locally of both in certain sizes. We have two sears and two home Depot. They don't like stocking the 1/2" ones apparently.

Harbor freight had plenty but those were terrible so I didn't use them.

The ones that came with the Carlyle sockets are identical to the husky ones. The craftsman are different than the husky.

Finally! Somebody that agrees that the HF rails ARE NOT the same as the Craftsman rails. I wasted $$$ on the HF rails. :willy_nil

I use Craftsman for metric and SAE, and Husky (red rails) for all specialty sockets. I like to look at a rail and quickly know where the specialty stuff is. :thumbup:
 

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I have been using the Hansen rails, which are not the most efficient for space, but work quite well for me.

Found these recently and I cut the 3 mats and stick them wherever, mainly on the side of my rolling cart, but other cabinets and areas also. I got the 3 sizes of pins for sockets, but use some pinless for other "quick grab" tools also.

http://www.sears.com/mag-clip-2-panel-magnetic-tool-storage-mat/p-00917717000P

Magnet is in the flexible rubber mat, not the pins, surprisingly strong, tools do not fall off the side of my cart.

http://www.sears.com/mag-clip-magnetic-socket-storage-mat-with-84/p-00917719000P

I did not shop around extensively, I found this place had the best price, and kind of weird that his eBay site was less than his regular .com site.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MagClip-3-P...0056393362&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr

I see some reviews say the magnets are so strong that deep sockets tip over and stick to each other. I didn't try this but for gaining real-estate on the side or cover of cabinets, they work for me for the 2 weeks I have had them.
 

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This has been a thorn in my side ever since I bought my first tools. I have tried many options. I have settled for the moment on taking my grey pneumatic blow mold cases the sockets come in and cutting them down to save some more space. In one drawer of my krsc46 I have 1/2 impact 10-36 mm deep and short. I have the metric 1/2 swivels, 3/8 7-22mm short and deep, and the 3/8 metric swivels, then the 1/4 I have the standard and metric short and deep and swivel kit. I have the torx kit as well as the 3/8, and 1/4 hex bits. All but the 3/8 are in trimmed blow mold cases cut to fit. The 3/8 bigger sizes didnt come in a blow mold so they are on a hanson tray with a cheap hanson knock of trimmed to hold the 21 & 22 3/8 sockets. Yes I those 3/8 21 & 22 sockets everyday. So its still a hodge podge, but it works for me.
 

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Folks,
I'm in the final stages of preparation for manufacturing of a socket holder system that will solve ALL of the problems brought up in this thread, and a few that you don't even know you have. I will most likely have it available for sale before Christmas (my goal).

Tentatively named "SockeTamer", I might change the name before release. I'll keep you up to date and start a new thread about it once the final designs go into manufacturing.
 

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Folks,
I'm in the final stages of preparation for manufacturing of a socket holder system that will solve ALL of the problems brought up in this thread, and a few that you don't even know you have. I will most likely have it available for sale before Christmas (my goal).

Tentatively named "SockeTamer", I might change the name before release. I'll keep you up to date and start a new thread about it once the final designs go into manufacturing.

subscribing to this thread just because of this post...
 

durallymax

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X2 curious to see what he comes up with. IMO there is no way to solve every problem. There will always be compromises and it's up to a personal opinion to decide the value of each feature and style.

The only thing I like about Hansen trays is the peg sticking out the top with the size. It's very easy to quickly id a socket which is why most people like them. Problem is you would need some sort of system that allows you to interchange them so people could adapt them to their socket set. Then there is the fact that they only work for regular sockets. They do not work for swivel sockets or bit sockets.

Then there's the magnet issue. Some people like them others hate them.

Then there's the size issue. I may want to line up 8-19mm and Joe blow may want to line up 6-24mm. With the plastic rails I used I just cut them to length and if I needed to hold say 15 sockets and could only fit 13 I would cut two the same size so one would hold 7 and one would hold 6. This helped with stability of the sockets in the drawer.

Then there's fastening. Some like spring clips, some like detent balls but both of these can wear over time. Some like magnets and some like pegs but those both have issues as described above.

Having something like trough/tray would work but the size would never be right.

That said, I always like seeing new ideas and I think there's room for another alternative in the market.

Good luck. Post up some info and pics as soon as you can for us to critique.
 

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I have the HF plastic ones.. they are decent for the money. keeps my Sockets in place so I can find them, and if I need to take out the whole rail I can..

Fully customizeable with the clips, and cheap
 

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personally i love socket holder because i use a bag at work. and the way i stick my sockets in i was folding over a traditional socket rail in half so i could fit all my 1/2" in the bag while still being able to put the bag away at night in a drawer so they weren't too tall..

never thought i'd find a solution, but damn if kobalt didn't do something right when they made these

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perfect height, hold a standard amount of sockets. come in all sizes, and the sockets won't fall off like some of the cheezy clips, not to mention they aren't a pain to get off because they are ball detent. plus being on a metal rail is a bonus, you can easily mix and match on the rail as well.
 

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magrail tl is what i think works the best

tailored to ur needs

I like the magrail. What's really June about the magrail and the plastic holders is the fact you can mix and match 1/4,3/8,1/2 on the same rail. You can also just cut the rail to length. This is much easier to do with the plastic ones though.

The reason I didn't go with mag rails was price. I quit adding when I got to $2,000 worth of mag rails to organize all of my sockets. I have a little over $200 in the plastic ones.
 

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The HF grey ones with black clips that are really cheap are really ****** IMHO. I hope that the Craftsmans are at least bettter...

I use a bunch of the HF grey one. I find the rails are fine, but the black plastic clips are junk. They constantly break.

I replaced all of clips with the black plastic clips from Matco. They are the exact same size and slide right on and seem to be way more durable.
 
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The biggest advantage is the ability to take the sockets to the job. In my case my tool chests are in the basement, the ability to take the rail with sockets out to whatever I am working on is priceless. The key is to keep the sockets in order on the rails...

Another advantage over trays, if the set skips a size you will want to fill it... Trays put more pressure on our OCD to fill in the blanks! Not as much of a problem with rails.
 

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As far as your ocd with socket sizes listed above.
Magnet holders, don't show skipped sizes.
Or twist lock, and non twist lock push on holders.

And can carry most of them. They have a handle.
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For someone making a living at it, I can see the advantage of everything at your disposal in 1 drawer, I am guessing I would do the same. But as a weekend warrior, I actually prefer the uncluttered neatness of the "before", even if it is 3 drawers.
I had no issues with it being the way it was before. It worked good for the time being I just needed to make better use of my space and open up some room for more tools elsewhere. Even though I have a large box, I've always been a bit of minimalist in a sense that I like finding ways for everything to use up every square inch efficiently but still be fast/easy for me to use (don't care what the borrowers think) and hold up to daily abuse (repeated opening/closing drawers, rolling box around shop). I also like being able to quickly notice if a tool is missing. That's why organizers are very handy. The socket trays were even nicer, but I can still spot a hole with these plastic rails. My project now (after finishing my wrench drawer) is my 5 drawers of various drivers. I like the Ernst low pro non slip racks but they don't work for everything. Probably going to make my own out of some sort of plastic L material. Then just cut slots where needed for each driver.
The HF grey ones with black clips that are really cheap are really ****** IMHO. I hope that the Craftsmans are at least bettter...
The craftsman rails are much better. IMO the issue with the HF rails was the detent and the clip overall, sockets did not like going on or off of them. Rail was fine. The fitment was sloppy with the HF too and let's sockets move around a bit.

perfect height, hold a standard amount of sockets. come in all sizes, and the sockets won't fall off like some of the cheezy clips, not to mention they aren't a pain to get off because they are ball detent. plus being on a metal rail is a bonus, you can easily mix and match on the rail as well.

That thing looks like it would be nice for crows feet as it would stand them up on edge and save some real estate.
I use a bunch of the HF grey one. I find the rails are fine, but the black plastic clips are junk. They constantly break.

I replaced all of clips with the black plastic clips from Matco. They are the exact same size and slide right on and seem to be way more durable.
I agree the clips are the issue. The HF rails seem similar to the craftsman. The shape is the same. The craftsman still has more slop to it than the husky/Carlyle etc. This usually isn't an issue once you get the rail loaded up and in the box but every once and awhile a Clip will slide a little but which makes putting the socket back in a bit more work. Nothing that will end the world, but something to consider.
 

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I use a bunch of the HF grey one. I find the rails are fine, but the black plastic clips are junk. They constantly break.

I replaced all of clips with the black plastic clips from Matco. They are the exact same size and slide right on and seem to be way more durable.

Yep... I got tired of breaking the clips!! :mad:
 

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Back in the day sockets came in a little metal tray with an "arm" to hold them in.I liked those( SK and KD). rails **** and the only reason I use them is so I can tell my idiots---Hey shidhed ! Where's the 1/2 drive x 9/16 deep 6 pt.and my extendo magnet pikkerupper ?

I know. I need to cut some foam or drill some wood or ???
Is there a "how to store sockets" thread ?
 

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Im a big fan of the tekton 3/8 socket rail, very convenient to be able to take sockets home and not have them jumbled up into my bag
 

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Quite some time ago I bought craftsman's twist lock version. At the time nobody else had anything like it; I think I read that was because of a patent. Spendy at $20 a pop, but I carry my sockets around vertically in a bucket and nothing else worked. Sometimes a big socket, often a deep version, will fall off in the bucket when bounced around roughly.

Now those other twist lock solutions look equal or better.
 

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I have about twenty Protoco individual socket rails. They are wonderful, in that they're longer than most of the others I've seen recently. They therefore hold more sockets. The holes in the rails are all the same size, but the pegs are different sized on top, for 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2 sockets. The pegs can be poked into the available holes spaced as needed for the various sized sockets--including mixing socket drives on the same rail. They attach to the box drawer with double-sided sticky tape; although I rarely pulled the backing paper off the tape.

In short, they're well-designed to conserve space and maximize socket density; they hold a lot of sockets per rail.

Price varies considerably--from about $9 to $15 per rail depending on supplier. Snappy is selling them for about $12 each.

Now the bad news: They were re-designed several years ago. The older ones had round pegs of 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 diameter. The pegs could be stacked if needed to hold tall sockets securely, yet the socket could be pulled off the rail with near-zero friction. The new design uses non-stackable plastic spring-clips which are annoyingly tight on the sockets. I seem to pull the socket and the clip out of the socket rail as often as pulling the socket off the spring clip. I wish they'd go back to the round pegs.

Second problem: The plastic rails are not overly-durable. I've had many plastic rails crack at the peg holes. Note that most of my rails are old enough to smoke--although I've got a couple of rails with minor cracks as new as 2005.

I sent an e-mail through the Protoco web site asking about pegs vs. spring clips, and warranty on the rails, but being the week-end, they haven't responded yet. I'll see how things turn out.
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http://www.protoco.com/Products/Products-Socket-Organizers.htm

I'm looking at those Westling aluminum rails...but in the end I think I'm gonna get a sheet of pegboard and some wood dowels sized to poke into the pegboard.
 
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I have the westling trays and they are very nice. I had the twist lock matco tray before and a coworker ended up buying it from me.
 

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I actually hate the blow molding trays that people put in their drawers even more. To each their own, but what a waste of space!

But I do agree about the rails, they are a pain. The only thing the ARE good for is something like a junkyard tool box for picking parts.
 

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Back in the day sockets came in a little metal tray with an "arm" to hold them in.I liked those( SK and KD).

I've got a ton of different plastic ones from craftsman. When I bought a set of sockets I kept the plastic rail. Let me know if you or anyone else wants them. I can take pics if needed.
 

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I have about twenty Protoco individual socket rails. They are wonderful, in that they're longer than most of the others I've seen recently. They therefore hold more sockets. The holes in the rails are all the same size, but the pegs are different sized on top, for 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2 sockets. The pegs can be poked into the available holes spaced as needed for the various sized sockets--including mixing socket drives on the same rail. They attach to the box drawer with double-sided sticky tape; although I rarely pulled the backing paper off the tape.

In short, they're well-designed to conserve space and maximize socket density; they hold a lot of sockets per rail.

That must be what Matco sold in the early 90s.
 

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Love socket rails! Especially these:

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I tried the twist lock for a week. Too slow for me. A bit bulky and pricier too. But that's just personal preference.
I actually hate the blow molding trays that people put in their drawers even more. To each their own, but what a waste of space!

But I do agree about the rails, they are a pain. The only thing the ARE good for is something like a junkyard tool box for picking parts.
X2 on this. I think snap on makes those blow molded cases huge so guys figure they need to buy a bigger toolbox sooner lol.
 

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Hey Max, I liked both your before and after pics... I really wish my drawers were deep enough to store my sockets vertical but I have to lay them down and by doing that I end up wasting a lot of space... It's hard for me to not make everything "just so" too... For years now I have been trying to find the best way to perfect my over all socket storing system but I'm limited by my box... And I could put the shallow sockets vertical and lay the deep sockets down to gain some room that way but that would really bug the heck out of me... They all have to be the same... LOL Any ideas or tips? Would it be helpful for me to take some pics of my box? As of now I have a small 1/4" drawer, long 3/8" drawer and a mid size 1/2" drawer... If I could go vertical with all of my sockets I could just use the one long drawer for all my sockets... My box is a 1989 master double bank top and bottom... There's a pic of it on my profile page... But I can't get another box because this old box of mine has a ton of history with me...
 

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All on the plastic craftsman rail same as matco's. I organized my most used 1/4" 3/8" and some specialty stuff. It's Nice cause I get the best of both worlds it contains them nicely in the top tray but Each is on it's own rail

I decide to take all my 1/2" drive out of the top tray
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