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Does anyone have geothermal heating?

prostock3

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The geothermal is closed loop, with 5 vertical runs going down about 120’ each (used well drill)

No issues, your more than welcome to stop by and see for yourself, my bill and how warm my house is. Im a beielver
 
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kd3pc

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How could there be no fpdifference in ever performance? Temperature increases with depth.

actually the temp of the earth decreases as you go deeper, where the "surface" is concerned...once at a certain depth (depends on soil type and region), temp stabilizes, so going deeper offers no incentive.
 

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actually the temp of the earth decreases as you go deeper, where the "surface" is concerned...once at a certain depth (depends on soil type and region), temp stabilizes, so going deeper offers no incentive.
In winter the temp goes up from the surface down. Just a few or more feet down it stabilizes until you get deeper than loops go.
 

GaryS1941

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actually the temp of the earth decreases as you go deeper, where the "surface" is concerned...once at a certain depth (depends on soil type and region), temp stabilizes, so going deeper offers no incentive.

My wells are 250', but here in Texas cooling is more of a concern than heating.
 
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willsterman

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I have been dissappointed with my geo system. I have 6 horizontal loops and the cooling was only putting out 13K BTU and the house would heat up rather than cool down on hot summer days. The installer finally determined that the pump was not circulating enough water through the coil and added a second pump which helped. The unit (Geo Comfort brand) has blown two capacitors, so the unit (compressor) keeps trying to start but can't so the electric bill is high but no heat generated until a person figures out that the geo is not working. The geo unit is connected to a natural gas furnace that will kick in if the geo can't put out enough heat, and the furnace is used to blow the warm air generated by the geo unit through the furnace coil. Since the furnace blower is always used, I don't know when the geo is heating or broken and the natural gas burner in the furnace is heating the house instead. The installer came two days ago to install a "soft start" system and then noticed that the outdoor temp sensor was reading 80 degrees outside even though it was 30. The sun was hitting the sensor and warming the sensor and siding that the sensor is mounted to and giving a false reading. The geo was programmed with a "WWSD" Warm Weather Shut Down setpoint of 50 degrees so the sensor was telling the geo not to run as it was thinking it was too warm outside. That feature has now been disabled and we'll see what happens. I have had the unit for 4 years and it has never worked to my satisfaction. The system was installed by Schneider Heating of La Crosse, WI and they are a large company with claimed expertise, but I am not impressed. Wish I had saved the large upfront expense and installed a conventional gas furnace and central air system which would have made our house much more comfortable with less maintenance.
 

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The sensor in the wrong place and the water circulation are two indicators that your installer did not know what they are doing.
Since you already invested a lot of money, investing more into finding a installer who know what they are doing to look over your installation.
Contact the mfg and express your concerns and see if they have staff that can educate you.

How deep are your loops. Is the highest point several feet below the frost line. Are you running antifreeze?
 

willsterman

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Hi Volleyball,

The loops were put in the ground using a boring machine and are below the frost line. The outside loops have antifreeze in them. The loops run at a slight angle down hill and are about 6 to 8 feet underground. The tech that came Friday said that they were getting 20 degree temp input this winter on some of their other customers systems and the geo units were not working (which tells me they did not install the ground loops deep enough for those customers) but mine was about 43 degrees the other day so I think I'm fine on the loops themselves.

I'm not sure who to call, as Scheider is the biggest company in the area, and since they don't know what they are doing, I don't know who to trust. I suppose I could try the manufacturer. Two capacitors going out in 4 years also seems to be a product problem, as I spoke with an electrical engineer and he said the capacitor should last 20 years. One going out could be a fluke but two going bad is very odd.

So I have had both product and installation issues.
 

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Horizontal bores? Why? Vertical bores make more sense. How many do you have and how deep? Are they in parallel or in series?
 
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