Does anyone know where to find this tool?

O_M_Jeep · Oct 20, 2012

I am trying to find a very small simple tool and dont seem able to. I've asked Snap-On, Matco, the tool stores, the distributors, so far, no luck.

It is an adapter to connect an M style air connector to a tire valve stem. You remove the core, screw on the adapter, then the M style quick connector goes on for setting the bead on a tire.

A couple guys in my shop have them, and unfortunately have had them for a great many years and also dont know where to find them.

I am hoping someone here on GJ knows where to get them, a part number, or has one they would be willing to sell.

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

G1GRANDEUR · Oct 20, 2012

this?

rhandwor · Oct 20, 2012

Try Northern supply.

SGKent · Oct 20, 2012

I can imagine why they are no longer available. The phone rang while the tire was being filled and the man standing next to the tire is a ****** now if he can even walk. At least with an air chuck you have to hold it on unless it is the locking kind so if the phone rings you let go. If the only way you can fill it is to permanently attach a 125 psi hose I can see where this one is going. In fact I would not let those be in a shop if I was the owner of a shop.

toomanytoyzz · Oct 20, 2012

SGKent said:
I can imagine why they are no longer available. The phone rang while the tire was being filled and the man standing next to the tire is a ****** now if he can even walk. At least with an air chuck you have to hold it on unless it is the locking kind so if the phone rings you let go. If the only way you can fill it is to permanently attach a 125 psi hose I can see where this one is going. In fact I would not let those be in a shop if I was the owner of a shop.

Dude, dangers like that can be said for most tools in any shop. Most of the time it's the idiots who do not use common sense when using tools that have epic failures. Take for a example your scenario....Corky should have finished what he was doing before answering the phone. Most shops I've worked in have people who are specifically paid to answer the phones and deal with customers. Leave the tool handling chores to the people who have a clue as to how thuse them. I have three of them in my toolbox which get used frequently.

knotheads · Oct 20, 2012

harbor freight sells the chuck you are looking for

O_M_Jeep · Oct 20, 2012

SKang said:
this?

No, not at all like that, it looks like a M style fitting, but the bottom threads are female and fit a valve stem.

Like this, simply, but threaded with 13 tpi 7mm.

(we have people who answer phones)

knotheads said:
harbor freight sells the chuck you are looking for

No they dont in fact, at least not any of the stores I go to, if they do at your store do you know the item number?

signcrafter · Oct 20, 2012

Just get a locking inflator, http://compare.ebay.com/like/320657926087?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar. They don't screw on but do hold the threads pretty good.

Mastermind · Oct 20, 2012

standard auto valve stem or we talking heavy truck?

Dumb question....tap? what is the thread pitch/size of a valve stem cap? tap out a fitting? weld/drill/tap?

O_M_Jeep · Oct 20, 2012

signcrafter said:
Just get a locking inflator, http://compare.ebay.com/like/320657926087?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar. They don't screw on but do hold the threads pretty good.

Those have an internal valve, the adapter I'm looking for is straight through open, no interferance.

signcrafter · Oct 20, 2012

O_M_Jeep said:
Those have an internal valve, the adapter I'm looking for is straight through open, no interferance.

Pretty sure that piece can be taken out pretty easy.

1steve · Oct 20, 2012

One of these?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Heavy-Duty-...Parts_Accessories&hash=item25768e101d&vxp=mtr

theamcguy · Oct 20, 2012

I know exactly what he is talking about. Setting the bead you want a bunch of air real quick, all of the tools above limit the flow in some way. Think an M adapter with nothing inside, you screw it on to a tire valve then hook up you shop air, straight air into the tire seats the bead. I want one.

O_M_Jeep · Oct 20, 2012

^^^ exactly ^^^

ears · Oct 20, 2012

https://www.miltonindustries.com/uploads/Milton_2011_Catalog_Pgs_18-21.pdf

Free flowing grip chuck has no valve. Just needs a coupler. SOP for truck tires.

1steve · Oct 20, 2012

The one i posted is open, it just clips on valve stem without a core. Alot easier than screwing something on.

O_M_Jeep · Oct 20, 2012

1steve said:
The one i posted is open, it just clips on valve stem without a core. Alot easier than screwing something on.

The one that screws on is the size of an M style connector so a valve core can be inserted through the tool.

I do very much appreciate all the tips and links. I'm guessing I'm not going to find the one I've been looking for and will have to try to make due with an alternative.

KinzeMech · Oct 20, 2012

If you have type M couplers, just push the coupler down over the valve stem (w/o valve core). The valve stem will open the valve in the coupler, and the valve stem rubber body will seal against the metal body of the coupler.

I can't believe nobody suggested that already. It works great for seating beads.

plinker · Oct 20, 2012

Search under "direct line air chuck". I have a True flate (looks like a Mini coupler?),Napa has them in their catalog (want the # ?), and I think Epsteins still has them in their closeout section.

Link;

http://store.harryepstein.com/cp/TruFlate/17-373.html

1steve · Oct 20, 2012

Crossing fingers............http://www.ebay.com/itm/Truck-Car-P..._Automotive_Tools&hash=item4abd1c7638&vxp=mtr

Jim C. · Oct 20, 2012

I think I know what you're talking about. This thing? (See photo below) Mine is marked 1/4" IM. It has internal/female threads. Closer inspection indicates that it's 18 tpi. I do remember where I got it. Shortly after I bought my air compressor about twenty years ago, I went to Buliders Square (pre Home Depot and Lowes) and bought this air compressor kit marketed under the Campbell Hausfeld brand. The kit included a roll of white teflon pipe thread wrap, a couple nozzles, various fittings and couplers, a tire inflator fitting, an inflator needle for sports balls, and a few other odds and ends to include the fitting shown below. Maybe one of the big box stores (HomeDepot/Lowes/Menards) might have what you're looking for.

Jim C.

RCStocker · Oct 20, 2012

O_M_Jeep said:
I am trying to find a very small simple tool and dont seem able to. I've asked Snap-On, Matco, the tool stores, the distributors, so far, no luck.

It is an adapter to connect an M style air connector to a tire valve stem. You remove the core, screw on the adapter, then the M style quick connector goes on for setting the bead on a tire.

A couple guys in my shop have them, and unfortunately have had them for a great many years and also dont know where to find them.

I am hoping someone here on GJ knows where to get them, a part number, or has one they would be willing to sell.

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

At the store that sells it. :lol_hitti

Last time I looke they were there.
Sorry I could not help myslef. LOL

O_M_Jeep · Oct 20, 2012

KinzeMech said:
If you have type M couplers, just push the coupler down over the valve stem (w/o valve core). The valve stem will open the valve in the coupler, and the valve stem rubber body will seal against the metal body of the coupler.

I can't believe nobody suggested that already. It works great for seating beads.

Except I am a class 8 truck tech, we use only metal valve stem bodies, no rubber, otherwise that would be just about right.

Jim C., that certainly looks like it, I'm actualy kind of surprised how hard it is to find something so simple and useful, maybe I need to start selling them lol.

mvptrukin · Oct 20, 2012

I realize you are looking for an "M" style one but this place shows a "T" style one. At one time you could buy them in several styles. I have had my "T" style one so long I can't remember where it was bought. Give this place a call:
http://www.fleetoilandtrucksupply.com/Tire-and-Wheel/Recapper-Coupler-779/6176/20-6025/Product

samg430 · Oct 20, 2012

is this it?
http://www.fixtires.com/proddetail.php?prod=AM731

metaleltr · Oct 20, 2012

O_M_Jeep said:
Except I am a class 8 truck tech, we use only metal valve stem bodies, no rubber, otherwise that would be just about right.

Jim C., that certainly looks like it, I'm actualy kind of surprised how hard it is to find something so simple and useful, maybe I need to start selling them lol.

That will work because it it actually the tip of the stem sealing against the seal in coupler not the coupler sealing against the rubber stem.

Jim C. · Oct 20, 2012

O_M_Jeep said:
Except I am a class 8 truck tech, we use only metal valve stem bodies, no rubber, otherwise that would be just about right.

Jim C., that certainly looks like it, I'm actualy kind of surprised how hard it is to find something so simple and useful, maybe I need to start selling them lol.

Well, try the big box stores. They all sell air compressor "stuff." Maybe you'll get lucky. You could also try contacting the "air compressor companies" like Campbell Hausfeld. The tool trucks might be the wrong place to look.

Jim C.

O_M_Jeep · Oct 20, 2012

mvptrukin said:
I realize you are looking for an "M" style one but this place shows a "T" style one. At one time you could buy them in several styles. I have had my "T" style one so long I can't remember where it was bought. Give this place a call:
http://www.fleetoilandtrucksupply.com/Tire-and-Wheel/Recapper-Coupler-779/6176/20-6025/Product

samg430 said:
is this it?
http://www.fixtires.com/proddetail.php?prod=AM731

YES ! ! ! ! ! Thats it ! ! ! Thank you so much, awesome ! ! ! !

thejudges69 · Oct 20, 2012

We have 2 of them our tech tool supplier has them on the truck all the time its a stock item for him

justanengineer · Oct 21, 2012

I usually just temporarily remove the valve in either of the standard types of air chucks. They screw out just like the valve in a tire stem, and IIRC, the reason you likely had trouble finding that other variety is bc its outlawed by OSHA due to lack of a safety valve.

On really big tires (the kind that make semis look small), a can of ether and a torch is even easier.

KinzeMech · Oct 21, 2012

justanengineer said:
On really big tires (the kind that make semis look small), a can of ether and a torch is even easier.

Hold my beer and watch this?

theamcguy · Oct 21, 2012

I just ordered one. Looks handy. I use the Milton A Series connectors in the shop so I'll just screw this one the tire valve then hook an M Series quick connect with a Milton 777 screwed into it so it can hook to my shop air. Boy I wish there was just one standard connector. Why so many styles?

Jawn · Oct 21, 2012

justanengineer said:
On really big tires (the kind that make semis look small), a can of ether and a torch is even easier.

I've seen that on TV. Just one big WHUMP! and the bead is seated.

thejudges69 · Oct 21, 2012

Jawn said:
I've seen that on TV. Just one big WHUMP! and the bead is seated.

You can also loose a life or a limb doing that, we resort to that as a last option. We've also done the 2 inch strap around it to seal it to the rim.

For truck tires you need a foam ring or a blast bottle like a cheetah bottle.

O_M_Jeep · Oct 21, 2012

We use Cheetah's, I have used starting fluid on my 33"s on my Jeep, on the trail, when a 1" strap doesnt get it.

Jim C. · Oct 21, 2012

Jim C. said:
I think I know what you're talking about. This thing? (See photo below) Mine is marked 1/4" IM. It has internal/female threads. Closer inspection indicates that it's 18 tpi. I do remember where I got it. Shortly after I bought my air compressor about twenty years ago, I went to Buliders Square (pre Home Depot and Lowes) and bought this air compressor kit marketed under the Campbell Hausfeld brand. The kit included a roll of white teflon pipe thread wrap, a couple nozzles, various fittings and couplers, a tire inflator fitting, an inflator needle for sports balls, and a few other odds and ends to include the fitting shown below. Maybe one of the big box stores (HomeDepot/Lowes/Menards) might have what you're looking for.

Jim C.

I saw a couple different sizes of the fittings you're looking for at Sears today.

O_M_Jeep · Oct 21, 2012

Thanks but, I live 110 miles from the nearest Sears / Wal-Mart / Arby's / HF / pet store / etc.

O_M_Jeep · Oct 27, 2012

samg430 said:
is this it?
http://www.fixtires.com/proddetail.php?prod=AM731

That was precisely what I wanted, thank you, I had to order 9 of them to reach the minimum shipping quantity but that means most people in our shop are getting one (I'm already down to 5).

these are perfect, you can remove a valve stem, put this on, forgo the cheetah and set a bead, then the valve core goes in without taking the time to unscrew it, then cage and inflate, it's such a time saver not having to stop and air up the cheetah, works best on newer tires, but works on used tires if you roll them a little. big truck tires anyway, no idea about car tires, I mostly work with 24.5s and 22.5s.

Samg430 thanks again for the link, I'll be sharing the invoice with our tool truck guys so they can start having a few on hand as well.

383 240z · Oct 27, 2012

If you have one to spare, I'll send you some $$ Let me know. Keith

fowlwishes · Oct 28, 2012

KinzeMech said:
If you have type M couplers, just push the coupler down over the valve stem (w/o valve core). The valve stem will open the valve in the coupler, and the valve stem rubber body will seal against the metal body of the coupler.

I can't believe nobody suggested that already. It works great for seating beads.

^^This.^^

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