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Does derusting tools lower their value?

lardy1

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I'm relatively new to vintage tool collecting. I have a bit of a background in other areas of antique collecting and I know that removing patina on things destroys their value.

I ended up with a large collection of old tools. Some very rusty. I have been enjoying identifying, cleaning and derusting them but I also wonder if I'm destroying the value of them.
 
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I'm relatively new to vintage tool collecting. I have a bit of a background in other areas of antique collecting and I know that removing patina on things destroys their value.

I ended up with a large collection of old tools. Some very rusty. I have been enjoying identifying, cleaning and derusting them but I also wonder if I'm destroying the value of them.
If cleaned improperly yes. Depends on the market as well. I know quite a few people do not like wire wheels. My vote is evaporust. It will keep some if the patina.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrench 3061
 

r_olson_06

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I'm relatively new to vintage tool collecting. I have a bit of a background in other areas of antique collecting and I know that removing patina on things destroys their value.

I ended up with a large collection of old tools. Some very rusty. I have been enjoying identifying, cleaning and derusting them but I also wonder if I'm destroying the value of them.
Also post up some pics of your collection. We would love to see them.

Looking for the following Plomb Pebbles Wrench 3061
 

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I'm with the opinion of "Rust is not Patina"! Gently cleaned so as not to abrade details, and rust removed with evaporust or electrolysis bath is my favourite, with a coat of Linseed Oil to protect them after cleaning.
 

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Everyone is different on this. I don't mind some rust, and I am starting to hate Evaporust. That stuff turns unplated stuff greyish, which I don't like. Gently cleaning and using bronze wool is now my favorite.
 

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I use a vinegar soak for unplated tools, followed by hand work with a stainless brush or steel wool. Then a coat of BLO.
 

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Everyone is different on this. I don't mind some rust, and I am starting to hate Evaporust. That stuff turns unplated stuff greyish, which I don't like. Gently cleaning and using bronze wool is now my favorite.

I’m still using evaporust quite a bit on really rusty tools. I realize that the grey/black residue sometimes requires a lot of cleaning to remove but this unmarked Ell was totally rusty and probably would have required using a wire wheel to get it cleaned up if not for it’s evaporust bath.
-Don
 

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DadsTools

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I'm with a lot of other posters here. Bench grinder wire wheel is a nay-nay. And rust is NOT patina. Evaporust is certainly my favorite chemical solution, and I've tried them all (vinegar, oxalic acid, Coke, etc etc.). I've also found a small handheld wire brush with a long bristle bed to be useful in certain situations.

One problem that can arise with de-rusting procedures is that it removes the rust inside the below-surface pitting, leaving the surface very obviously pitted. I've had wrenches that weren't all that bad-looking that after the Evaporust were filled with obvious pits, and I regreeted not taking a more tedious hand-cleaning approach. A cleaning process that addresses the surfaces while leaving the filled pits intact can make for a smoother surface with the top of the pit rust getting kind of "polished".

As for value, it depends upon the amunt of rust. Removing surface rust without harming the tool definitely increases the value. But if the tol is heavily rusted, its value is probably already destroyed as a collectible, so you can't really hurt it by taking more extreme measures.

As I often mention, however, is if a wrench can be documented as having come from George Washington's carriage house, or something crazy like that. Doing anything to that kind of artifact will harm its value.
 
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Stadger

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Tools are rusty, damage has been done already. Brass wire wheel is what I use to clean the rust off and any type of oil that is handy to wipe them down.
 

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It also kinda depends on whether your talking about some combination wrench or a Darling Brown&Sharp rule. Rusted machinist tools have virtually no serviceability left in them whereas a rusted wrench will still get the job done.
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