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Does wal-mart own the Fram filter co. ??

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Spend some time in the pits at your local dragstrip and you'll see lots of Fram filters.

I ran a methanol injected 509" BBC with a 10 qt. sump and turned over 8k RPMs every pass. Never had an oil filter problem in 5 years using Fram HP4 filters and I know dozens of guys that also use them without failure.

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But I'm not trying to convince anyone what is best. Use whatever filter you like. Bashing and arguing about oil and oil filters on the internet is a phase that a lot of people go through. Sooner or later you'll realize it's pointless.

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Just kidding, just kidding :beer: Doesn't Fram endorse John Force?

I use them and have for years. I've never had a problem with them. Does an engine wear out prematurely by using them? I don't have a clue, but I sold my '89 Toyota truck with 250,000 on the clock. My Dodge POS Ram is still running alright and I have like 125,000 on it. And it does say on the back of the box "Made in the USA". Nothing on the box anywhere about Honeywell though.

I do have a question about the language on the box....One language is in Spanish, but I don't have a clue as to what the other is. Could it possibly be French as I see it is imported by Canada? :dunno:


FILTRO DE ACEITE
FILTRE A HUILE
OIL FILTER
 
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I do have a question about the language on the box....One language is in Spanish, but I don't have a clue as to what the other is. Could it possibly be French as I see it is imported by Canada? :dunno:


FILTRO DE ACEITE
FILTRE A HUILE
OIL FILTER

Oui, "filtre a huile" c'est Français. :thumbup:
 

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walmart screws many a companies by contracting them and then forcing them to lower the price and cornering them into the deal, if the manufacturer does not drop the price, they drop the manufacturer and then the company is at risk of going out of business.

they did this to many companies, read the rubbermaid story.
 

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comedyman809;3468079[B said:
]walmart screws many a companies by contracting them and then forcing them to lower the price and cornering them into the deal,[/B] if the manufacturer does not drop the price, they drop the manufacturer and then the company is at risk of going out of business.

they did this to many companies, read the rubbermaid story.

A lot of companies though make a budget line of things for WallyWorld. Just like the Michelin Tires. And just like the CORE filters.

WallyWorld doesn't OWN the other companies, so they can't FORCE the said company to lower it's price. All they can do is threaten to not carry their product and have it pulled from the shelves, which IIRC that's what happened with Rubbermaid. What WallyWorld doesn't think about, or maybe they do, is that said company can leave their price where it's at and talk to the local businesses about carrying the product, therefore putting a little hurt on WallyWorld. The only bad thing is that "said" company will cave to WallyWorld because of the high turnover rate of items. I bet if one could look at Wally's books, places like Amazon and other similar online shopping places have put a slight decline on Wally's profits somewhat. Just like shopping for Christmas, there are a lot of people that do every single bit of it online today. If someone is running a side business of auto repair, or if they just like to stock up on items for doing their own home repairs like oil changes in multiple vehicles, it pays them to go online and buy quantities.

We have two local tire places that were scared shitless when the news came out about building the new WallyWorld right across the road from the smaller one. The local Pennzoil place was also afraid that they would go under. Today, if you drive around by Wally's racks and bays, you're lucky to see one car in there. They are usually empty. The two local tire places, well three actually as we also have a Goodyear....constantly busy. The local Pennzoil Lube joint, cars lined up to get in. Back at Wally's service area, crickets are chirping. WallyWorld was also going to build a new gas station on the side lot they had. They had permission to build it, but I think it boiled down to the fact that we already have quite a few gas stations in our little podunk town, and I don't think they could compete enough to make a profit. We have two Speedways, one on the north end of town that just expanded, and one about a mile from me by the way the crow flies. The one by me, you see a tanker in there almost daily, and there has been times that a tanker has been in there twice in one day. Plus it's also a convenience store, plus the Speedy Rewards card, draws people in 24/7. I've actually had to wait at the pumps at 4:00 am before when I was working.

So WallyWorld is for convenience, but I don't actually think they are FORCING a company to lower their prices like they may have done in the past. All of our local businesses tried to get them to stop by protesting them building the larger WallyWorld, but in actuality, I think it increased the locals business somewhat, because we have the local small town hospitality. It's made the locals change their way of DOING business, but in the longrun, it has been better for them.
 
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Companies have slowly been coming around and learning from the Rubbermaid and Vlasic pickle ordeal with Wal-Mart and learning to say "no" to them.

Below is a classic example of Snapper telling Wal-Mart "no" on cheapening their product.

http://www.fastcompany.com/54763/man-who-said-no-wal-mart

Article is a little dated as the final irony is that Snapper is now back in Wal-Mart more on Snappers terms when Wal-Mart started to make a push to be more upscale and compete for Target customers.
 

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You have to think about the economics of running a production facility to understand Walmart's negotiating strength.

You get a Walmart contract, which means much higher volume. You build or improve a production line and hire additional people to meet the new demand. You neglect your previous distribution chain, which has falling sales anyway because of the Walmart price competition.

Then Walmart wants a lower price for the next contract. Saying 'no' means laying off people, taking delivery of supplies you now don't need (or paying a penalty), and trying to rebuild a distribution chain. At each contract renewal, it's cheaper to keep the Walmart relationship even if you are no longer making money.

Is Walmart evil? Not explicitly -- they are just trying to get the best price. And the owners did accept the initial contract, which likely made them a lot of money.
 

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You have to think about the economics of running a production facility to understand Walmart's negotiating strength.

You get a Walmart contract, which means much higher volume. You build or improve a production line and hire additional people to meet the new demand. You neglect your previous distribution chain, which has falling sales anyway because of the Walmart price competition.

Then Walmart wants a lower price for the next contract. Saying 'no' means laying off people, taking delivery of supplies you now don't need (or paying a penalty), and trying to rebuild a distribution chain. At each contract renewal, it's cheaper to keep the Walmart relationship even if you are no longer making money.
Is Walmart evil? Not explicitly -- they are just trying to get the best price. And the owners did accept the initial contract, which likely made them a lot of money.

That may be the reason why some brand name companies only have a certain line of a product that sells in WallyWorld. In the case of my buddy and needing a Michelin tire, he said he would go to our other local tire place to buy a Michelin. No could do. The Michelin tire was specifically made for by Michelin and made specifically for WallyWorld only. You could not get that Michelin tire with the same tread pattern anywhere else.

So maybe it was a loophole that other companies found so they wouldn't have to lay off, or wouldn't have to pay penalties :dunno: It would make sense though if that were the intentions.

I've always been in favor of Walmarts. We get Chinese products shoved down our throats on a daily basis. Almost any item you pick up other than clothing (some is made in China and other countries I've never heard of though) you see Made in China, day ion and day out. My ex worked in the office at Wally, and later on my ex MIL worked in the pharmacy, but if we get force fed China ****, at least it's nice that you can do one stop shopping. Walmart though, tries to monopolize on peoples shopping and it did work for sometime. I'm glad to see that other companies in the USA can stand firm ground and not cater to WallyWorlds demands as far as pricing. WallyWorld makes enough billions a year that they also can pay a little more to stock the company brands that they once bullied. :rocker:
 
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Walmart is too busy selling 90% of their goods Made in China. Would be interested to know how many millions of jobs have been lost in the USA because of Walmart.
 

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Walmart is too busy selling 90% of their goods Made in China. Would be interested to know how many millions of jobs have been lost in the USA because of Walmart.

Wal-Mart is only half the equation, the consumers who allowed it to happen, share equal blame.

Also, Target, K-Mart and a host of other retailers are almost all China ****, but they seems to get a pass and it is all Wal-Marts fault in most people mind.

I remember growing up in the 1970's when there was no national presence of Wal-Mart and K-Mart was the discount retail king of their day, K-Mart had plenty of cheap imports then also on the shelves.
 
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Walmart is too busy selling 90% of their goods Made in China. Would be interested to know how many millions of jobs have been lost in the USA because of Walmart

Wal-Mart is only half the equation, the consumers who allowed it to happen, share equal blame.

Also, Target, K-Mart and a host of other retailers are almost all China ****, but they seems to get a pass and it is all Wal-Marts fault in most people mind.
I remember growing up in the 1970's when their was no national presence of Wal-Mart and K-Mart was the discount retail king of their day, K-Mart had plenty of cheap imports then also on the shelves.

Exactly. I grew up in the '60's and remember very well how almost every one pitched a royal ***** about "Made in Japan". Now we look at Japan as the cutting edge of the electronic world and automotive world.

It boils down to ....I want MY cake, I want their cake, and I want to eat it too".

Hopefully someday, Global Marketing will balance out. But people need to also help do something about it instead of being armchair experts. And it will take all people from all walks of life. That includes every rung on the ladder. Sadly, we will not see that in our lifetime and is doubtful that our children and grandchildren will see it in theirs either.
 
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