Door opener...will this work?

[gtkane]

One of the doors on my shop is 8ft wide X10 ft tall,and it is in poor shape.
I want to replace it with an insulated door that is 8'x8', because I really dont need a tall door(and it is a lot cheaper!).
Now, my ceiling is 11' tall, and I need the rails to go all the way to that(I have an inground hoist and need the clearance)
Boxing off the top 2 feet of wall is a no brainer, and I can install a rubber seal with no problems.
The question is...the typical over head garage door opener will not work to pull the door up, and then over. Can I mount it on the wall to open the door, or is that too much stress on it?

 

[soj]

It is hard to picture what you are trying to do... I can't imagine an opener designed to mount in the ceiling being mounted on the wall. Some are designed to mount on the wall above the door, Wane Dalton being one.
Does the door you are looking at have extension springs (one on each side at the overhead tracks) or torsion springs (coil springs on a shaft above the door)? That might make a difference in how much you could modify it. I have seen overhead, sectional doors that the normally horizontal portion of the track went up at about a 45* angle to give more overhead room.

Another option is a barrel door, it rolls up right at the top of the door opening, only extends into the shop about a foot.

 

[Rockerbox1]

in short, NO, any opener made to mount to the ceiling cannot be mounted to a wall. how would it opperate?

 

[tdkkart]

The Liftmaster 3800 jackshaft opener will do it, a bit more money than standard openers, but perfect for special applications like this.
Seach for Liftmaster on these forums, you'll find lots of info.

 

[kbs2244]

I have seen PICs in other threads where they put an extra panel above the door to get up to where the opener can get the needed leverage.
But then if you are going to buy an extra panel you might as well have a high door.
A liftmaster would do it.
But check the dollars for it vs an extra panel.

 

[gtkane]

in short, NO, any opener made to mount to the ceiling cannot be mounted to a wall. how would it opperate?

I figured that an overhead door opener just pushes and pulls the door horizontaly, if I mounted it vertically beside the door and made a bracket to attatch it to the bottom of the door, it would lift it up.

 

[gtkane]

The Liftmaster 3800 jackshaft opener will do it, a bit more money than standard openers, but perfect for special applications like this.
Seach for Liftmaster on these forums, you'll find lots of info.

Jackshaft opener...that's what it is called! Everytime I searched for "door opener" I would get the typical stanley overhead model.
I looked around, and they seem to go for around 300 bucks. I think that is the route I'll take.(it's cheaper than another tall door, and will work better for me!)

Thanks everyone for the reply's!

 

[wssix99]

Jackshaft opener...that's what it is called! Everytime I searched for "door opener" I would get the typical stanley overhead model.
I looked around, and they seem to go for around 300 bucks. I think that is the route I'll take.(it's cheaper than another tall door, and will work better for me!)

Thanks everyone for the reply's!

It sounds like you are after a torsion spring setup and similar opener. Jakshaft looks to be a trademark of Liftmaster. Lots of other companies make similar openers. For example, I think Wayne Dalton calls theirs i-Drive. I assume theirs is made especially for people with iPhones, iPads, etc.

 

[klhitman]

so a new shorter door and opener plus lumber a materials to box in and the labor to-do it all is cheaper the a new taller door or a roll up door?

 

[gtkane]

The reasons for a new shorter door are:
Old door is uninsulated, and falling apart.
With one short door and one tall door it looks kinda goofy.
The doors on my garage face north, with nothing but open feild across the road. In the winter, when it is -40ºc and a howling north wind, it gets cold. I would rather have a little more insulated wall than door.
I am planning on updating the exterior with siding and possibly an awning or short roof over the doors. Symmetrical doors will make this easier. Also, the 50 bucks for material to wall up the door area is minimal.(labour is free, right?)
And possibly the biggest reason...if I can't fit a large truck (3-ton) in my garage, I can't work on it.(that is a plus any day of the week!)
I have never considered a roll up door as a viable option.

 

[tdkkart]

It sounds like you are after a torsion spring setup and similar opener. Jakshaft looks to be a trademark of Liftmaster. Lots of other companies make similar openers. For example, I think Wayne Dalton calls theirs i-Drive. I assume theirs is made especially for people with iPhones, iPads, etc.

A jackshaft is a jackshaft, same on any torsion spring door,ain't no trademark about it.

Last I knew, the I-Drive had gone out of production because it was a monster POS.