Down to it on a compressor,..need a nudge~

[Bootybug]

Up first: North Star

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200434327_200434327

CFM at 90 PSI, 26.2, Max. PSI 175, Volts 230, single-phase, Amps 40, HP 7.5
Air Tank Size (gal.), 80, Tank Description Vertical, Pump Two-Stage, Two-Cylinder, Cast Iron, Splash Lubrication, Belt-Driven, Air Outlet Size (in.) 1/2
Stationary, Dimensions L x W x H (in.) 25 x 31 x 75 Warranty 24 months parts/ 24 months labor Ship Weight 524.0 lbs

COST: $1,700

Like: Great CFM, bang for your buck, good components.
Dislike: Size, sound (unknown).

Second: SAYLOR VT 735-80

http://www.saylor-beall.com/air_compressors/tank_mounted_vertical.php

80 Gallon, RPM 845, cfm 17.3, weight 648lbs.

PRICE: $2,100 (ouch)

Like: Old world, high quality construction, probably low noise.
Dislike: Price and beastly size.

Third: QUINCY 251CP80VCB

http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/Quincy-251CP80VCB-Air-Compressor/p856.html

PRICE: $1,900

80 Gallons, 5 HP, 230 Volts, Phase Single, 2 Cylinder, CFM @ 90 PSI 17.7, CFM @ 175 PSI: 17.2, Max Pressure 175 PSI, Weight 660 lbs, Warranty: 1 Year

This unit will be going IN my 4 car garage, can't put it outside. I may jump up to the 7.5 on the last two, but there would have to be some financial incentive (sale). That's why I like the North Star so much---great CFM for a very good price. This is Northern Tool's newer model so there aren't any reviews on it yet, but their last one had very solid reviews. Thoughts????

 

[Warrenator]

They all look great, how hard are you going to run it? Quincy seems to have the reputation for longevity and quality... I've never killed a compressor pump by wearing it out, it's always the accessory stuff like motor starters, regulators, couplers and hoses that wear out and break.

 

[GeorgiaHybrid]

Either the Saylor-Beall or the Quincy would be my choice. Either one will last a lifetime if cared for.

 

[Davefr]

Let me put it this way. If I was ever in need of replacing my air compressor I would go with Quincy in a heartbeat.

Their pumps are built like brick shithouses and parts are readily available even for older units. I was also surprised how reasonable Quincy parts prices are.

(ex: a head gasket for a Quincy 216 is <$20 online. I was recently given a quote for $150 for a head gasket for my IR T21!!)

I would also avoid store brands like HF, Husky, NT etc. If you need a valve body down the road you might be SOL.

 

[Major Ramifications]

I would also avoid store brands like HF, Husky, NT etc. If you need a valve body down the road you might be SOL.

The Huskys are made by Campbell Hausfeld and parts are readily available.
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I wonder who makes the North Star.

 

[Bootybug]

I would use it ocassionally for impact, buffers and cutters. I am reading where many who purchase below 17 cfm wish they went larger. NORTH STAR gets there without pulling teeth. To go 7 horse in the good ones your looking at $3-4,000.

 

[rmadursk]

How about if I nudge you the other way

Why not go used?

I got an 80 gallon horizontal IR T30 on eBay for $175. 2 hour drive to pick it up. Replaced the 3ph 5hp motor with a 1ph 5hp Baldor 1430T motor (brand new $275 shipped on eBay).

I am right now plumbing the shop (40x50 steel) with 1/2" steel pipe. Planning 10 drops with varying configurations (driers, lubers, regulators). Not sure of the final cost on it since I am doing it in sections, buying bits as I go, but it will be way below $1000.

More money for more air tools

The downside is you have to be patient. Those deals aren't out there everyday.

Ron

 

[Bootybug]

I have too many projects and work to sort out the good from the bad units. But, I will take a look on ebay for grins.

 

[cwlo]

I would also recommend looking for used. Can get some really good deals. Also consider putting Champion on your list.

It would be interesting to hear what TPtools has to say, as they carry both Quincy and Champion. Also, Check Ebay for new pricing. I seem to remember seeing the Saylor Beall for mid 1700's. Not sure if its the same model you are quoting.

Chris

Chris

 

[Bootybug]

I am considering 7 hp just so I never want for more pressure. However, the high end units seem to get cost prohibitive for an "ocassional use" unit.

 

[GeorgiaHybrid]

Bootybug,

Don't worry too much about the Quincy or the Saylor-Beall. I run a blast cabinet on my 5HP Quincy and it will build pressure and shut off with continuous blasting going on. If there is just you or one other person helping, I doubt that you will ever run out of air with either one of them.

 

[alex211]

Did you consider the 7.5 horse 80 gal Ingersoll Rand that Northern sells with free shipping?

It puts out 24cfm and is $2000

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200414703_200414703

 

[Bootybug]

Agree. It will always just be little old me tooling away. I like both units so it will come down to where I can get a better deal. They both seem to be fantastic units; the SB perhaps harder to get parts for not being as prolific.

 

[Bootybug]

You know, I've done a lot of research on IR and I am finding many manufacturing errors; parts missing, damaged or not working properly. While IR is "usually" quick to fix, they may be pumping out (forgive the pun) more compressors than they can really do well. This is just my opinion, but I think I'll be going another direction. It's personal.

Did you consider the 7.5 horse 80 gal Ingersoll Rand that Northern sells with free shipping?

It puts out 24cfm and is $2000

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200414703_200414703

 

[RbrtAWhyt]

Interesting. Northern Tool shows that first one as being made in the USA. Anyone know who the OEM might be?

 

[Nealcrenshaw]

If money's not a problem i'd say go with a new unit, but buying used can be the way to go as well, but these compressors are built for beyond the occasional air in the tire,blow up the kids swimming pool use,these are made to work.

 

[Bootybug]

I have two other smaller compressors for the tires and stuff. Need one that can push pneumatics effectively, when needed. It will work, just not everyday-like me.

 

[kc-steve]

The Huskys are made by Campbell Hausfeld and parts are readily available.
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I wonder who makes the North Star.

The North Star product manual says it is made by Northern Tool in Minnesota. Kind of surprises me since most compressors made here are made by Campbell Hausfeld in Ohio.

Steve

 

[Bootybug]

I just spoke with a Northern Tool rep and he did state that it was their unit that they build, but you never know. So maybe he was "informed" correctly and I was just skeptical. He also said they run faster than some of the higher end units like Quincy, but still run quiet. What it boils down to is longevity and quality of components. For the price, it's a solid buy, really.

I wish I knew someone who owned it and could weigh in.

 

[kc-steve]

I just spoke with a Northern Tool rep and he did state that it was their unit that they build, but you never know. So maybe he was "informed" correctly and I was just skeptical. He also said they run faster than some of the higher end units like Quincy, but still run quiet. What it boils down to is longevity and quality of components. For the price, it's a solid buy, really.

I wish I knew someone who owned it and could weigh in.

Well, the photo of the North Star doesn't even look close to any Campbell Hausfeld I've ever seen before. Did you notice the size of that piston cylinder? It is HUGE! That would also explain the high CFM. And my experience with Northern Tool has been good, meaning I'm sure they would bend over backwards to support your parts needs. (nudge-nudge)

Steve

 

[Bootybug]

I'm leaning this way, or to the Saylor Beall. I hate paying sales tax, and NT will certainly hit me with that. Free shipping is always nice.

 

[Topfueldart]

Well I just did a google search and found this because I'm in the exact same situation. I feel like this is something I don't want to have to buy twice and the reviews on the Quincy stuff are all awesome, but that northstar does indeed pack quite the punch for the buck. I have a suspicion the popularty will never be what the Quincy stuff is though. Where have you found the best deals on the Quincy pieces? I do believe it is tptools on eBay that has them listed the cheapest ive found, with free shipping. So your not alone, and I'll be watching this thread with interest.

 

[Bootybug]

Thanks bud. I will add that I have searched the previous models of North Star compressors and they have solid reviews (5 stars). It is impressive on paper, but it would seal the deal if I had personal testimony or the ability to hear it first hand. I may call the Northern Tools dealer near my house and ask them to hook it up for me.

I am also very impressed by the Quincy, and the Saylor Beall. These two seem to be winners no matter what. I do agree, the Quincy has better pricing.

 

[Bootybug]

Ever heard of Curtis? Any good? Junk? Price and features look purty good...


http://www.powertool-box.com/product.php?cat=643&page=1&productid=17263 (7.5 hp, $1,800)

DANG! Smaller than I care for, but man what a great price for a Quincy!! (5 hp, $1,180).

http://www.powertool-box.com/product.php?productid=18003&cat=75&page=9

 

[GeorgiaHybrid]

Besides Quincy and S-B, Curtis and Champion compressors are nice machines also. The small Quincy you linked to above is not even close to your original pick. It turns a much higher RPM and is a little noisier to boot.

 

[Bootybug]

Do you believe the Curtis is in the same league??? Looks like if you don't get the "Ultra Pack" it's stripped; no magnetic start, pads, etc. So I guess you could say a stripped Quincy.

I am aware of that Quincy squeezing out power via higher RPM's, and more noise. It is a good deal for a Quincy, but I'd also say it's their lowwww end.