Drill Bit Brand Question??

[luvmyglockfou]

So I picked up a drill press from a guy the other day off of CL. It is 5/8 chuck beast, which weighs a ton. He said he has never used it, and it has sat in his and his father's shop since the late 1980's. I picked it up for $70 after seeing that it worked like new...it didn't even fit in my car..this thing is freaking massive.

It was my birthday, and he was a nice older guy..he told me that since it was my birthday he wanted to give me something special. He handed me this drill bit set, and said that he hadn't used it because he was scared to lose a bit or ruin it, etc...but that he could see that I had an appreciation for tools and wanted me to have it...nice guy! The only issue is that I have NO idea what brand it is, or even what the bit are made for. Can anybody help me identify this drill bit set? The only stampings or markings are the "HUOT Made in U.S.A.)", which I suppose is a good thing. Anybody have any idea?

IT GOES DOWN TO .0135"!!! Smallest bit I have even seen!!

 

[Outlawmws]

Huot is the maker of the box, and a good one.

Take a look on the shanks of the larger drills and they will likely have both size and makers markings, and a "HSS" for "High Speed Steel" bits.

 

[luvmyglockfou]

Awesome! So like this http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_579_579?cm_mmc=Google-pla-_-Power%20Tools-_-Drill%20Bits-_-15130&ci_sku=15130&ci_gpa=pla&ci_kw={keyword}&gclid=CKirv6u83LMCFayPPAodLScAOA

Pretty awesome for free, I suppose!!!!

Overall, I am happy with what I got for my $70!!!! I almost feel bad now...

Thanks a lot for your help outlaw!

 

[Steinmetz]

Huot is the maker of the box, and a good one.

Take a look on the shanks of the larger drills and they will likely have both size and makers markings, and a "HSS" for "High Speed Steel" bits.

Huot invented the drill index.

 

[luvmyglockfou]

So...update..they bits say the size and "HS" stamped (not HSS) Are they still steel bits, or what? Forgive my ignorance, I know nothing about these...

 

[JASTECH]

luvglocky, Yes those bits are steel. That is a very nice gift to you from him, those bits get you well on your way of sizes needed.

 

[Provincial]

Without a maker's name, my bet is that they are import bits in the Huot case. Still a great birthday gift, and probably food enough for your needs. Just run them on the slow side as far as rpm goes.

Do you have any references for choosing the spindle speed for a specific drill bit diameter? If not, I'm sure someone here can set you up.

 

[luvmyglockfou]

Without a maker's name, my bet is that they are import bits in the Huot case. Still a great birthday gift, and probably food enough for your needs. Just run them on the slow side as far as rpm goes.

Do you have any references for choosing the spindle speed for a specific drill bit diameter? If not, I'm sure someone here can set you up.

I actually do not have a reference for that! I would love that info, however, and the press is a 16 speed. Right now I have it on the lowest setting, 170 I believe. Thanks for the response.

 

[Outlawmws]

Do a Google image search for drill speeds and feeds, and you will get a lot of hits. remember its both material and drill size dependent.

 

[RetiredOldGuy]

Nice looking drill press. That was certainly a deal.

Look into getting a real "drill press" vice. Drill press vices have flat sides, perfect for cutting right next to the jaws and they have flat tops, so the vice can be used upside down. I use one to hold everything, its much safer. Make a practice of using it and clamp thin materials down to the table before drilling. Could save you some stitches...

Here's a handy pulley and rpm calculator with a nice interactive feature (just plug in your pulley and motor information if you don't already know the spindle speeds).

http://www.culvermotor.com/Engineering-Formulas/Pulley-and-RPM-Calculator.html

enjoy your new tool,

mike

 

[luvmyglockfou]

Thanks mike. I think I'll have to pick up one of those vices ASAP!

 

[Matt018]

No one has said this? YOU ****!

 

[luvmyglockfou]

Hahaha....uh..thanks!

 

[Jim Johnstone]

That's a nice little drill press. Handy to have the crank for table lifting. What is the max speed of the drill press? You'd need a very high RPM to run those little drills, I've got drill sets down to a #60, but that #80 is tiny!

 

[Kevin54]

Don'tplan on running those small bits (the .013's and such) in that drill press. For one, the chuck probably wouldn't them anyways, for another, the drill press is too big to have a good feel when drilling that small. Chances are, you'd snap every one.

But, good find on the drill press and great deal on the drills.

 

[luvmyglockfou]

Yea I don't even have any use for any of the tiny bits....nor do I think I could use them. I'm not around to look but I know it goes down to 170 on the speed, and is a 16 speed. I think it goes up to 3600.

 

[RetiredOldGuy]

As a general rule of thumb, the smaller the bit, the faster you need to spin it, the larger the drill, the slower the chuck turns.

My guess is you will never need this but there is a special drill chuck for those small bits that has a 1/2" straight shank you clamp in your drill chuck, and it turns the a small pin chuck (called a Sensitive Drill Feed Chuck) that you pull down with your fingers. This allows you to "feel" the feed and the pressure on the bit.

Here is one version of it
http://littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=3790

Also look into getting some non fluted step drills for sheet metal and thin materials. They make a nice round hole, drill make a 3 sided hole, and will not try to spin the material.

cheers,

mike

 

[Thegratenate]

Does anyone have a preference in brand for step bits? Who makes a good one at the best price?

 

[luvmyglockfou]

Thanks mike! This is why I love this board! I have the same question regarding durable and good branded step bits. I have never owned a set, but have always wanted some!

 

[Major Ramifications]

As for stepped bits, Unibit used to be the king.
Now that they are part of Newell Rubbermaid's Irwin group, they are probably Chinese.

Those tiny bits are called numbered bits. There are fractional bits, lettered bits, numbered bits and metric bits, among others.

 

[Provincial]

I once had to drill an oil squirt hole in a magnesium casting using a #56 bit. I did it in a Jet 1/2" floor model drill press and I am guessing that the top speed was 3500-4000 rpm. I was very careful and had no problem. I had to use a pin vise in order to grab the tiny bit.

To experiment with step drills, buy a Harbor Freight set when one is on sale - meaning just about every day. I used the largest one they sell to make holes in the girts of my metal shop building for passing 1/2" and 3/4" conduit through them. The material was hardened steel and I could barely get a Greenlee 3/4" knockout punch to make a hole in that stuff! I bought an extra bit thinking that I'd use up the first bit pretty fast, running it with a Milwaukee Hole Hog variable speed 1/2" drill fairly slowly. Well, I am still using the first bit, and it still drills like new! They are hard to start without making a small pilot hole. I use a 1/8" pilot hole for the smaller bits and a 3/16" pilot hole for the big one.

I have pretty much all the step drills HF sells, and they all seem to perform as well as the big one.

 

[Vvmvbb]

As a general rule of thumb, the smaller the bit, the faster you need to spin it, the larger the drill, the slower the chuck turns.

My guess is you will never need this but there is a special drill chuck for those small bits that has a 1/2" straight shank you clamp in your drill chuck, and it turns the a small pin chuck (called a Sensitive Drill Feed Chuck) that you pull down with your fingers. This allows you to "feel" the feed and the pressure on the bit.

Here is one version of it
http://littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=3790

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cheers,

mike

Outstanding! Many thanks.