drill press "Wet" table??

[slackdaddy1]

Looking for a used, "real" drill press to replace my $79 table top unit.
One thing I want is a table with the perimeter trough and drain, for using cutting oil.

Most all the used ones I am seeing have a flat "dry" table.

Are there replacement "wet" tables available? or should I just wait till the right one shows up on marketplace or CL?

 

[matt_i]

Imo you are better served with a drop of tap magic here or there.

Flood coolant, water or oil both have their issues but the primary one is a huge drippy mess.

Along those lines, if you can keep speeds low your need for smoky lubricants is greatly diminished except for big holes and tough materials. Look for a drill press that can get into double digit RPMs and you'll have a winner.

 

[seber]

Wet machining is really a province of dedicated machinery. Coolant goes everywhere and needs complete shielding to be practical. If used on a simple drill press it is generally for a dedicated operation where special tooling is involved.

 

[American Locomotive]

If you search for "metalworking drill press" you are more likely to find tables with a trough.

But I'm really not sure how necessary it is. For most hole drilling operations on a drill press, a few drops of oil every every 20-30 seconds (if that) are all you need to keep everything happy.

 

[tool_scrounge]

Delta rockwell made multi drill tables with coolant troughts

http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=11597

They also made stand alone drill presses with tables with coolant troughs.

Some were without clamp down slots

http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=3

http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=21608

Some had clamp down slots (t-slots), but I cannot find a photo at the moment.

 

[Packard V8]

Wet machining is really a province of dedicated machinery. Coolant goes everywhere and needs complete shielding to be practical. If used on a simple drill press it is generally for a dedicated operation where special tooling is involved.

X2 - I have a 17" Delta with a "production" table and it's great for the extra surface area, but I can't imagine ever using enough coolant/lubricant to need the trough and drain.

jack vines

 

[larry_g]

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So just to be clear your looking for something like the above?

lg
no neat sig line

 

[shawhite]

I believe they are called production tables you usually see them on larger metal work drill presses. My Arboga has one. My advice is wait til you find the press you want I think it’s going to be hard and expensive to replace the table on a larger drill press

 

[relicrecoveryspecialist]

I worked as an industrial machinist, home remodeler, and a supervisor for the maintenance dept at our local city maintenance dept. we had three drill presses. One that had no cutting oil lines, another with, and then one that would shoot sporadically on the bit to keep it cool. Both of the ones that had a coolant tank for oil made a huge gummy mess that you’d need to clean up everytime. I suggest finding a dry one, and using your own cutting oil, and swirl it every once in a while to keep bit cooled down. It really makes a difference when there is constant flow of cutting oil. I will say we had a electric fed cutting oil pump that would reclaim old fluid due to it having a tray with a screen area for fine shavings.


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[tool_scrounge]

One nice thing about the production type table is that even using it dry, the trough gives a nice place for the chips to collect.

 

[lilredex]

If this one will do the job you should be able to find a free one out here. There are likely a million looking for that famous pulley, and sitting waiting for the junk man.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00006K00I/?tag=atomicindus04-20

 

[slackdaddy1]

Yes, that is the type of table I am looking for.
I have been drilling my metal with a hand drill, dipping the bit every 20 seconds,, gets old.
I personally see good lube makes a world of difference when drilling for me.

Wants the skinny on the "pulley" ??

If this one will do the job you should be able to find a free one out here. There are likely a million looking for that famous pulley, and sitting waiting for the junk man.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00006K00I/?tag=atomicindus04-20

 

[slackdaddy1]

Never mind,,, Looks like the old "Rupp Roadster" mini bike!

 

[tarbellb]

Post a location, GJ will scour the depths for a good DP.

 

[mowkep]

Always wear eye protection too. I had coolant get in my eyes once and ended up with infections in both eyes. Not fun

 

[ez-duzit]

...I have been drilling my metal with a hand drill, dipping the bit every 20 seconds,, gets old...

Looking for a used, "real" drill press to replace my $79 table top unit.
One thing I want is a table with the perimeter trough and drain, for using cutting oil...

You don't need a trough for cutting oil; they are for coolant, which you don't need at all.

Instead you need a drill press with low enough speeds for the bit size you're using. And better technique on drilling metal.

 

[lis2323]

You don't need a trough for cutting oil; they are for coolant, which you don't need at all.



Instead you need a drill press with low enough speeds for the bit size you're using. And better technique on drilling metal.

Agreed. I have a drill press with a trough type table. I NEVER use flood coolant. The table is important for the clamping slots though.

 

[lilredex]

If you want to corral the cutting oil you use, lay down a fat washer on the hole being drilled.

 

[ez-duzit]

If you want to corral the cutting oil you use, lay down a fat washer on the hole being drilled.

Good tip!

 

[usdemt]

Use Boelube. At room temp it's kind if waxy and easy to clean up. At any temp over about 100f it is a great lubricant. I use it to tap as well except for the smaller ones that dont heat up much/transfer the heat to the material.

 

[Mohawk Dave]

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So just to be clear your looking for something like the above?

lg
no neat sig line

Larry, is this your drill press? I want to buy it from you! I searched high and low trying to find out what model it is...found it's picture on some Russian tool site (but those are US receptacles and a F thermometer, looked through your posts but did not see anything....I love that thing!

 

[Noworries]

as already said...the coolant trough works great for collecting chips

 

[Packard V8]

Larry, is this your drill press? I want to buy it from you! I searched high and low trying to find out what model it is...found it's picture on some Russian tool site . . . looked through your posts but did not see anything....I love that thing!

The front of the table clearly reads Buffalo Forge Company, but the column and head are not like any Buffalo I've seen in person or online photos.

jack vines

 

[speed bump]

We bought a jet with coolant at work recently. It's a pretty awesome machine but it does fling coolant everywhere within a 5 ft radius over time.

 

[tool_scrounge]

The front of the table clearly reads Buffalo Forge Company, but the column and head are not like any Buffalo I've seen in person or online photos.

jack vines

Looks like a buffalo forge 14" sliding head high speed drill press. It is in the 1931 catalog. Heavy beast for a bench mount at almost 300 lbs. The 1931 is an earlier version with the two speed flat belt pullies

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=5890

 

[tool_scrounge]

Looks like a buffalo forge 14" sliding head high speed drill press. It is in the 1931 catalog. Heavy beast for a bench mount at almost 300 lbs. The 1931 is an earlier version with the two speed flat belt pullies

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=5890

Here us a link to the 1959 version

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=5909

 

[Mohawk Dave]

The front of the table clearly reads Buffalo Forge Company, but the column and head are not like any Buffalo I've seen in person or online photos.

jack vines

Lol...I saw that which is what I googled of course...just couldn't find a square column, but "tool_scrounge" did.

Here us a link to the 1959 version

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=5909

Thanks! I'm now on the hunt for one to copy cat that benchtop one.