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drilling in stainless steel railing pipe - what bit?

inphx

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I have about 40 holes to drill to attach handrails. The titanium nitride harbor freight bits kind of scratch but does not cut into the Stainless Steel 316. I need to come in at a slight angle because of the drill body.

Thanks in advance. Please suggest how many bits i would go through. I do not think there are self tapping screws for this material?

Any amazon or ebay or where to buy links greatly appreciated.

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Lots of HSS USA made 1/16" bits and 4 or 5 HF step bits to get the correct final diameter.
 

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How thick is the tube? You might have decent luck with self-drillers.

The big trick with stainless is once you start cutting don't stop
 

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Sharp bits and lots of lubricant.

316 is really gummy, so you can pretty much forget it if you don't have sharp bits. It's getting work hardened really fast.

Wax based bandsaw blade lube is a good choice when you drilling upside down.

Center punch before you start drilling.
 

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Noresman or viking drill bits. I have the magnum Noresman. McMastercarr sells them. They are usa made from their own blend of HHS, and the 135 degree point starts easily without center punching and they advertise that they are made for drilling stainless and that they also take less torque to cut than other shapes of bits. The full set was just under $100 on amazon prime for the fractionals with a really great plastic drill index, that beats all the metal indexes I have seen.
 

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I have about 40 holes to drill to attach handrails. The titanium nitride harbor freight bits kind of scratch but does not cut into the Stainless Steel 316. I need to come in at a slight angle because of the drill body.

Thanks in advance. Please suggest how many bits i would go through. I do not think there are self tapping screws for this material?

Any amazon or ebay or where to buy links greatly appreciated.

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sign, turn 180 ,punch and drill... :) :rocker:

I probably did thousand of these ... but I just weld them .

I think a "residual gizmo welder" is not going for you... much cheaper to buy drills than buy...set-up and learn how to weld thin stainless .

Tube can be drilled with hss drills I prefer to have something less than 135 degrees tip .. 120 or so, not too fast but not too slow either, lubrication is not exactly needed for a wall so thin... it take about 2 seconds to drill , no time to build up heat .
 

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Usa made cobalt or h s s.no china or harbor freight lol! There is a set on amazon includes 1/16-1/2 made by drill hog cobalt/h s s lifetime warranty.should last you from now on.also i would center punch your drill points to keep drill from walking.
 

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I don't get it why does he need the whole set, buy just one drill .. maybe 2 .. that's all

a good drill will cost almost as a chinese set anyway
 
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Hey there

I just built a 316ss front fence with riveted joints and had to go through the learning process on drills myself. Cobalt was the answer here. I pilot drilled larger holes with a 1/8" bit and then went up to the 1/4" needed for the rivets. My HSS bits wouldn't even scratch the tubes! I bought everything I needed from Amazon and ended up with several different brands.

Good luck!

Jon
 

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As has been said Cobalt 135 Deg Split Tip Bits . The material is thin so going to big to fast and it will fetch up. Hole size by eye looks to be 3/16 - 1/4 " I would go 3/32 -5/32- final size . Using Bees wax lube ensure you do at least a light center punch to prevent marring the material when it walks. http://www.panamericantool.com/cobalt-drills.html you will have to buy a pack of 12 but I have used these guys for ever . You did not mention if you were using self tapper, bolt through, rivet that might make the decision on bit sizes for you.

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I don't get it why does he need the whole set, buy just one drill .. maybe 2 .. that's all

a good drill will cost almost as a chinese set anyway

It is probably faster to get the entire set than to order individual bits, he must not have a good bit set, and it is great to have all of the sizes.

I ordered individual sizes of the noresman at first, to fill in my old german made dewalt set. Small bits are only a few dollars each, but the larger sizes are 10 bucks each and it quickly made more sense to buy the entire set, once I was set on a brand and type of drill bit.

Mcmaster is fast, but originally I ordered from EMI Supply (they list the exact part numbers and manufacturer and have good prices) and it took a couple weeks to get the parts.

Here is the set I have, for $85 on Amazon prime: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001CZH2SK/?tag=atomicindus08-20

https://www.emisupply.com/catalog/n...rill-bits-fractional-p-7208.html#.V-mjvMm_pdg

The 3/16" drill bit is $1.75


https://www.emisupply.com/catalog/n...lls-fractional-sizes-p-9318.html#.V-mkDsm_pdg

They also have cobalt for $2.23 in the 3/16", but I have not tried the cobalt.

Noresman says the key to drilling stainless is to use a drill bit which digs below the surface of the material so that it always cuts new ss, instead of slowly eating away at the surface, causing heat, which will work harden the stainless. It makes sense, but I don't think I have drilled stainless with these, yet. A HSS drill with a less than perfect design, for stainless, may give poor results on stainless, where a HSS drill with a better design could cut just fine. If you are just buying a couple drill bits, go with the cobalt if you think they will be better.

Carbide is a no go for hand drilling. It is too brittle, and I have learned that the hard way. Another reason I was willing to try noresman HSS, is that they claim their bits are a bit, no pun intended, tougher than common HSS but also flexible enough to hold up to hand drilling under less than ideal conditions. I prefer to drill items on the mill/drill and use an air mister to keep the cutters cool, but there are plenty of times I have to drill by hand with my V28 cordless. On thin stainless, the right bit shouldn't heat up much. I thought about using some of the mist coolant in a spray bottle, since it is much cleaner than using oil, and it keeps the bit much cooler.

Welding those joints wouldn't be much fun, even if you did have the equipment and some experience. That is some thin tube and and even though I have tig and mig welded for years (very little stainless), I would expect to have a learning curve.

Good luck on the project.
 

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HSS jobber bits (135 degree split tip) lots of pressure and low speed. To much speed and the bit gets burned and will no longer cut. For 40 holes I would allow about 5 bits. I think the packages come with 10 bits.
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Thank you all for sharing your knowledge. I ended up buying off ebay doubled ended bits 1/8 at $6.15 pack of 10. I i Used one two ended bit for the entire railing. I chased the 1/8 hole with some #10 self drilling screws I had on hand.

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