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Driveway Bridge upgrade

2Rocky

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I'm thinking about what it would take to upgrade the bridge coming in my driveway. This Bridge served us well all these years with 80,000 pound semi's driving over it daily. Feed deliveries, and a daily milk tanker 7 days a week x 30 years.

The Footings are concrete, and probably 80-100 years old. They are part of the creek channel with 10-12 feet width between them and the bridge beams are 8 feet from the bottom of the creek channel. They cross the driveway at an angle so it is a straight shot down the driveway. Over time some tree roots grew behind one of the footings and created some concern it would possibly tip that footing . We removed the tree in question, but it makes me think perhaps it would be wise to move the bridge footings back from the edge of the creek. Perhaps set some precast concrete in the existing roadbed perpendicular to the road.

The deckspan is 2 -12 inch I-beams topped with 4x6 and 4x8 pressure treated lumber that runs parallel to the creek, (angled, not perpendicular) to the driveway)topped with 4 2x12 treads along the wheeltracks . the I beams are under the middle of each tread.

The beams are roughly 17 feet long on their existing footings. I'm wondering if moving the footings back to be perpendicular with the driveway might be a good upgrade. That would make the span 22-25 feet . If I used 2- 12 inch I beams under each tread, that should make up for the reduced capacity of the longer span. This would have the added benefit of raising the bridge, since the creek will flood occasionally and flow over the existing bridge for a couple of hours. I'd make the Deck 10 feet wide inside the railing.. it currently is only 9' 5" between the bumper rails. which can be an issue for pulling a trailer.

I'm no engineer, and neither was my great grandfather who built this one. What am I not taking into account?

I looked up I beam capacities on this web page: https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/w-steel-beam-uniform-load-d_1722.html
 
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wssix99

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Without seeing pictures, I can tell you that widening a bridge exponentially increases its cost. Everything gets upgraded.

The abutments should last a very long time as long as they don't crack up and stay vertical. If the abutments are no longer vertical, the load capacity of the bridge will be reduced. If the bridge is damaged or if you build a new one, you will need to consult a local engineer no matter what.

The expense primarily comes from the length of the beams. If you make the bridge in-line with the drive, you can widen the bridge with the same length of beams. As you stretch those out, expense goes way up.

If I needed to replace this sort of thing, I would look at a precast box culvert. You don't need to worry about the expense of building new abutments, extensive engineering or lengthy construction. Stone goes down, maybe a footing, (instead of a complicated abutment) you crane in the culvert, backfill and you are done!

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Ing3018

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If I am understanding you correctly, the driveway and the stream do not intersect at a 90 degree angle?
It is a good practice to look into moving your foundations away from the edge of the stream. This and raising the beams will aid in giving you a bridge that is less susceptible to damage from the stream when it floods.
As you have realized, the angled foundations (assuming I interpreted you as intended) result in more surface area of the deck.
 

captaindiode

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This company is putting in surplus railcar bridges in NC where the hurricane washed out roads. The DOT is using them as temporary structures, but I think they are also being installed on private roads.

 
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ATC

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Like diode mentioned above…I would go the railcar route myself if starting from scratch.
 

andyvh1959

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Interesting challenge. Like said, because it is a waterway the DNR would get involved (if they know about it). The fact it has survived so many decades says your grand-dad did a lot right. Yet, like anything structural, what did he do for the base/sublayer under the foundations? Could there be pilings down to more solid substrate onto which the foundations were set? You mentioned the tree roots, but did the tree roots actually displace anything or cause a crack that could develop into a failure? Its always interesting how nature and decay can compromise and overtake what seems to be forever permanent.
 
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