Driveway estimate

[polexican23]

So because of new born child hospital issues I had to delay the final piece of my garage build.....the driveway.
I plannned on doing the majority of the work myself, but just do not have the time available. (that is all spent at the hospital with my son)

So i got a few quotes on what it would cost. What are your thoughts on the attached pricing.

Mind you there is very little of anything that needs to be hauled away. the concrete material they are referring to is the left over that we just dumped on top of the soil, about half a yard or so of slurry.

 

[hefnerconstructionlc]

Sounds like they're in the range to me. 4000 PSI is good and so is rebar. Didn't say how thick as I recall. I just placed 450 square-foot patio with lots of fill in work. It did have fancy finishing concrete ceiling and stone and mortar work as well. And that came in at around $7000.

 

[polexican23]

Current conditon of driveway in question

 

[ard]

How many square feet??

Ask them 'take the haul away out of the bid, what will it be?'

They MIGHT be applying a standard multiplier per sqft which has am 'excavate, remove, form, pour' dollar amount in it- and if they are applying it to all 1000sqft (or whatever your project is) you might do better dropping that concrete into a dumpster at work one bucket at a time...

 

[polexican23]

with all the funky angles and such, I would say about 900 sqft.

 

[Falcon67]

I figure 16~16.5 yards allowing 10% waste - just the concrete here would run $2000 plus delivery, then plus a crew. Plus the labor, forms and base materials and misc prep work.

Here today, because work is having a slab poured for a pool house, it's $125/yard plus a delivery charge of something. "delivery charge" - and the plant is maybe 3 miles from the pour. When I did the shop slab in 2011, it was $68/yard delivered to your door.

 

[polexican23]

Crude drawing of dimensions.

 

[ard]

850 sq ft

at 4" thick, I get about 10.5 yds. Add whatever, if you are figuring out an order- but for costs, lets say 13 yds.

1500 for concrete, rebar what 200? some 2x4s, you have form stakes??

Take your time- it can wait a few months until the health stuff is done.

My 2 cents

 

[polexican23]

Yeah I have already waited since November. I can wait, the city will not.

I will need to regrade the site. It isnt where it needs to be. The city requires minimim 4" gravel and 4" concrete.

sorry for slow response. dont really pick up my fone when I am at the hospital. Have something more interesting to keep my attention

 

[tthornto]

File for an extension with the city if needed, and get a few more quotes when you have the time. You've got more important things to worry about right now.

That's my advice as a father of two perfectly healthy children now 2 and 4 years old who were both premature (27 and 30 weeks), between the two of them combined My Wife I spent 5 Months visiting the NICU every day after work usually staying there till 1AM then going home and getting a few hours sleep, so we could do it all over the next day.
You are exactly where you need to be and doing exactly what you should be. Family comes first.

If the city doesn't like it they can F-off, any fine they might issue for taking to long to finish will be nothing compared to the medical bills. My insurance company paid out over a million for my kids and they were worth every penny. Thankfully it was all covered and I did't have to pay a single cent besides my regular monthly premium. I hope you are as lucky as I was.

 

[Wagabu83]

I just had a driveway poured. Mine was 16' x 30', 4" with mesh and stands per code requirements. This came in at $2700. The city then told me I had to finish the sidewalk as well. So that was 4' by 40'. Contractor charged me an extra $775 for that job.

 

[tthornto]

From the Picture if the only access is between the fence and the house, the contractor is likely charging extra to either avoid damaging the house by using a pump/buggies for the concrete, or they might be padding the bid so they can afford to repair the house if the cement truck or their equipment damages it.

 

[ard]

From the Picture if the only access is between the fence and the house, the contractor is likely charging extra to either avoid damaging the house by using a pump/buggies for the concrete, or they might be padding the bid so they can afford to repair the house if the cement truck or their equipment damages it.

Or they are just doubling the bid hoping every once in a while someone desperate bites

 

[driftpin]

Your bid in south Florida would be very-much 'in the ballpark.' I just got a bid for a bit less sq ft. than you, about 1/3 less cost, and similar specs, though here they want 6" square footers, 6" slab thickness, and no steel in the apron to the alley beyond the property line, so they can have a simple pour if they need access for servicing the gas or water line that run on that side of the alley.

I was requesting 8" square footers, #10 6" X 6" WWM across the slab, and two #5 rebar in the footers. 3000 PSI w/fiber reinforcement concrete. It's for replacement of an existing asphalt driveway and a new slab for a 10' X 20' premanufactured Hardi-Board steel frame storage building.

 

[Lunker]

Where are you at in Illinois? I may be able to suggest 2 guys to check pricing with

 

[tjm129]

Your pricing seems in line with what I had done last year. If you need another concrete contractor to quote I can give you my guy, he was amazing!

TJ

 

[Bighead38]

Simplify the area imo. Example
9x27=243
30x24.5=735
978 sq. Ft

Dewalt pro app concrete slab for 978 with 0% waste
4" slab 12.07 yards
6" slab 18.11 yards

How deep is your current gravel driveway? Probably compacted well enough to pour over if it's deep enough. Lol

Price seems a little high to me but not by much especially since area you live makes such a big difference. Taking out the old gravel is a half day work of going slow. Possible dump fee if contractor doesn't have another place to use it. Haven't checked price of gravel lately but $500-$750. So $2,000-$2500 for gravel work, say $500- $1000 for form work, 12 yards of concrete would be $850-$1500, $2000 for the concrete work. $6500-$7000. It's only 2 days of work, 1 day for gravel and forms and another day to pour.

 

[polexican23]

I am in Arlington Heights, IL.

the current drive has gravel at most 2 inches in places, 0 in others. It was just the extra that was dumped after the garage slab portion.

I have 2 more quotes coming in and seemed more in line with what I had expected. Then again, with construction estimates you just never know what you will get.

 

[polexican23]

tthornto, you are correct. We do similar, 2 dogs adds a little extra planing.

Yes insurance is covering the majority of the costs, we jsut had to pay our deductible then max out of pocket.

 

[polexican23]

Finally got a hold of one bidder and they said they dont base their estimates on yards needed.
Basically if the area is easy to get to: $7 per sq
if it is harder to get to $8.50 per sq.

 

[sleek98]

I paid 5 a sq at our new house in Kansas City. I thought that was high but I guess its not as bad as I thought.

 

[midwestcj]

When i was lived in illinois, just a couple of years ago, we had a patio poured. Granted, it was stamped and stained, but a 22x17 patio in Grayslake was $5500 with minimal dirt work needed. from the concrete guys i talked to and the bids i got, yours doesn't seem to be out of line.

 

[ard]

Finally got a hold of one bidder and they said they dont base their estimates on yards needed.
Basically if the area is easy to get to: $7 per sq
if it is harder to get to $8.50 per sq.

And if they are including 'break up and haul away' in that 7/8.50...and your project has none...then they are not bidding accurately. Tell them why they lost the job. IMO

 

[Schism]

I paid $4.75/sq ft with rebar a month ago in ND. New construction driveway with no breakup or haul away.

 

[6768rogues]

I don't like anything that vague. Up to 4" of stone? How about the quote is for 4" of stone and you get a credit for any not used?
Rebar and mesh to village codes? How about finding out what the code requires? Is rebar or mesh advisable? There is no reason you have to build to bare minimums prescribed by code. You pay for rebar/mesh unless they find a way to legally get out of it? If they included it, I would want it even if it exceeds code requirements.
Are they going to use air entrained concrete?
What happens if there is more than 5" of existing concrete?
Will they put on or include curing sealer?
What are the payment terms?
Get their insurance information.
As far as price, I don't know your market and I don't make my decisions based solely on price.

 

[joes169]

A few things that the amateurs at the GJ aren't seeing when it comes to what appears to be a high price:

- Most outfit in Northern IL are union, they don't work cheap.

- The access to the area plain *****, hard to place concrete, float and broom due to the tight quarters.

- It's now almost July, most crews likely have enough work into early fall. There's no reason to bid the job to make a few percent on it when they can look at the next one and name their price.

- Any concrete contractor worth while won't use the forms already set up, and will take them down and reset them at their discretion, so the existing forms are actually in the way, and won't save any money.

- I can't say for certain, but after 18+ years in business pouring things like this, I'm relatively certain the pitch of the concrete is more complex than most can wrap their head around. There's at least 2 existing concrete planes to match, and you can't drain water to the house obviously, and there may not be much room to drain water to the left of the picture and still get it to the street.

 

[polexican23]

No sealer, not much breakup or haulaway. City requirement is 4"inch stone, 4" concrete.
I told them no after the person i spoke to said they never do 4" on a driveway, it wont hold up.
I asked if he would ever put 4" on a quote, his response was never.
I told him to review the quite he sent me then, cause it calls for 4".

Anyways, guy didnt seem like a straight shooter. Bid#2 isndue tomorrow.

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[Lunker]

$7 - 7.25 is pretty standard with removal

I got a build right now I'm doing and that is where it's coming in at

 

[Lunker]

A few things that the amateurs at the GJ aren't seeing when it comes to what appears to be a high price:

- Most outfit in Northern IL are union, they don't work cheap.

- The access to the area plain *****, hard to place concrete, float and broom due to the tight quarters.

- It's now almost July, most crews likely have enough work into early fall. There's no reason to bid the job to make a few percent on it when they can look at the next one and name their price.

- Any concrete contractor worth while won't use the forms already set up, and will take them down and reset them at their discretion, so the existing forms are actually in the way, and won't save any money.

- I can't say for certain, but after 18+ years in business pouring things like this, I'm relatively certain the pitch of the concrete is more complex than most can wrap their head around. There's at least 2 existing concrete planes to match, and you can't drain water to the house obviously, and there may not be much room to drain water to the left of the picture and still get it to the street.

Good points except the union comment. They aren't union here from what I'm seeing.

 

[engineer2]

I got about 900 sq ft of concrete for a bit over $4k a few years ago. That included tearing out the asphalt driveway and doing a sidewalk alongside the house.

 

[joes169]

Good points except the union comment. They aren't union here from what I'm seeing.

I guess most of them have been chased out by now then. I just know I have an acquaintance in the burbs that's been union for years, and complaining he can't compete anymore, and can't get out of the union, so now he's literally picking up and moving out of state.

 

[brycez28]

My mom just got two quotes for her driveway, about 900 sq ft. Tear out and haul. Both were within $200 of each other, about $5 sq ft.

 

[polexican23]

Yes drainage is an issue. The way our neighborhood is setup it doesnt flow to the street. It is sent to the back yard and supposed to then travel somewhere else (50years have passed and doubt that happens anymore effectively). I will remove the forms already in place so that we can re-clear the area.