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Mattwb18

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Hello everyone, first real post and am in need of some help. i am in the process of finishing my garage, ready to hang drywall and realized i wasnt sure how to install the drywall around the hurricane ties. They are on every stud all the way around and are about 1 1/4" from the wall out. Any advice on how to fit the drywall? My guess was to slot the drywall and the remaining 1/4" or so, cover with some type of molding. Any help would be appreciated. Here are come pictures of the ties.



 
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That is a PITA to change now, but best to do it right. Did it pass inspection that way?

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The clips/ties are installed wrong, and it also looks like they didn't install all the required fasteners.

The clip/tie manufacturer will (rightly so) pretty much deny any possible liability claim because the clips/ties are installed wrong/incorrectly.

Are there panel clips installed in the seam between the roof sheathing panels? I don't see any in the pic.
 
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Thanks for all the replies. The company that built the garage is out of business now, so out of luck there. I did find out that the garage did pass inspection, and according to the inspection only 50% of fastener holes are required to be filled, and the direction of the ties doesn't matter as far as the strength of the ties. I am covered as far as that goes. Does anyone have any advice as to hanging the drywall as is?
 
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The amount of work to cut the sheetrock around these, and the ugliness of it, would lead me to fix the situation first. You may have to replace some of them as you remove them with damage, but it is worth it.

Jim :cool:
 
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It would be a PITA to slot the drywall, but what is a 2 inch cut into a piece of drywall with a keyhole saw...nothing. As far as changing out the hangers=bigger PITA. I'd slot them, fill it with some joint compound and paint over it. You will never see them again.
 
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kweber1911 said:
It would be a PITA to slot the drywall, but what is a 2 inch cut into a piece of drywall with a keyhole saw...nothing. As far as changing out the hangers=bigger PITA. I'd slot them, fill it with some joint compound and paint over it. You will never see them again.
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Seriously, I think you would cause more work trying to slot it accurately, then cover the gaps and smooth it, working around all of those, than just doing it right. In the end, all the work to work around it, and the sanding to clean up the mud, extra work to paint around them and the ugly left over just isn't worth it IMHO. Every one of them will show! Do it right.

Jim :cool:
 
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Those ties are not that expensive to replace. I suggest you grind the heads off the nails holding on the ties-remove the ties or just bend them out of the way-then replace with new. The new ties will be on the other side of the roof truss member. The old nails (minus the heads can just be driven in to allow new ties to be installed on top. Yes it will be a PITA, but will be much neater. Just a suggestion.
 
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Use Simpson h10 straps... No way to install it incorrectly, double your uplift loads per truss. No special nails other than be sure to use 8d x 1 1/2", a palm nailer ideal for install.
 
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Install a new clip correctly on other side of truss. Use angle grinder with cut off wheel to severe wrong clip in middle and then pound it flat after cutting so it is out if way.
 
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If those are the recommended fasteners (short nails) I see you can pop them right out- their strength is in sheer, not tension. And I agree with Jdbuilder - use H10's to replace them (I used them, and IIRC Jim von Baden used them, too). I haven't looked at Simpson's specs, but I think they are a superior hurricane tie, and that is probably important to you, considering your location. And JVB is also right in saying this will be the easiest way out.
 
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Get a flat pry bar and remove them. I have removed and reused many HTies, just don't bend them all up. Replace the corner Htie as it looks like they pounded it till it fit??
 
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Mattwb18 said:
... according to the inspection only 50% of fastener holes are required to be filled ...
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I would like to see that in writing !

Not according to Simpson (the manufacturer). They also want you to use their fasteners (nails). If the roof blows off, will the insurance company agree with the inspector ?
 
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theoldwizard1 said:
I would like to see that in writing !

Not according to Simpson (the manufacturer). They also want you to use their fasteners (nails). If the roof blows off, will the insurance company agree with the inspector ?
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The International Building Code and International Residential Code both require all fastener holes in an engineered steel reinforcement or bracket to be filled.
 
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