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That's a really good idea. I wish I'd thought of it at the time.

TONE, have you used that opener mount? I've been looking at it on and off for a long time, just not sure how strong it is.

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Guys, build one out of Unistrut and All-Thread. Nothing will be as strong!
 
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How did you secure it to the door?

Each panel area is surrounded by lips on the frame. The panels didn't need any securing, they definitely aren't going anywhere.

That's a really good idea. I wish I'd thought of it at the time.

TONE, have you used that opener mount? I've been looking at it on and off for a long time, just not sure how strong it is.

:thumbup:That mount is awesome, but i'm still wishing to change to a jackshaft unit which would eliminate all that mess above the door.


wow. what a clean garage. The racedeck is killer. really brought it all together

Thanks man. I definitely used some lessons learned from my Single. Very happy with the way all the pieces are coming together.
 
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Well two sessions later all the panels are cut for the window row. I'll give them two coats of paint Saturday and then get them in Sunday morning i'm assuming. Hoping that all the measurements worked out haha. I think i did most of the calculations before Beer's were introduced to the equation. Pretty excited to get this little project completed and on to the next!

 

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Looks good dubber! Did you seal the edges with anything to avoid styro-bits flaking out?

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Looking good! Was wondering the same thing with sealing the edges, is it possible to run a heat gun or something on the edges or not messy enough?
 

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I have two doors in my garage. Both had the typical mess of brackets and angle iron. I recently pulled down the garage door opener and installed a liftmaster.

I also had the door tracks moved to go up along the ceiling.

Pixs posted later
 
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Looks good dubber! Did you seal the edges with anything to avoid styro-bits flaking out?


Looking good! Was wondering the same thing with sealing the edges, is it possible to run a heat gun or something on the edges or not messy enough?


I have a couple ideas thus far but i'm not sure how it will finish up. I think some trial and error might be in the works.



I have two doors in my garage. Both had the typical mess of brackets and angle iron. I recently pulled down the garage door opener and installed a liftmaster.

I also had the door tracks moved to go up along the ceiling.

Pixs posted later

Happy to see you went that route. Looking forward to seeing your updated thread. :thumbup:
 

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I'm in the process of figuring out how I want to add a second layer of insulation to my door. Why did you choose the durofoam over the pink board which has a higher R value?
 
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I'm in the process of figuring out how I want to add a second layer of insulation to my door. Why did you choose the durofoam over the pink board which has a higher R value?

Whats the first layer of insulation you have on your door? I went with the durofoam for a few reasons. First i knew i wanted 3/4 based on the space in the door i had to work with and my local HD didn't have that for the pink board. Secondly the durofoam felt more malleable to me which made more sense as i was doing full sheets per section and i really had to bend the heck out of it. I also liked that it had foil on one of the sides that i was putting against the actual door. The one i went with is also a little cheaper, but that was more of a benefit then a deciding factor.
 
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Did the two coats for the foam on the top row today and finally got it put onto the door. Overall i'm very happy with the results. I know it won't be as good as getting an insulated door but for now this works great, and still looks good as well.



Here's the door before insulation.



And after. If nothing else the colour is much better lol...
 
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Whats the first layer of insulation you have on your door? I went with the durofoam for a few reasons. First i knew i wanted 3/4 based on the space in the door i had to work with and my local HD didn't have that for the pink board. Secondly the durofoam felt more malleable to me which made more sense as i was doing full sheets per section and i really had to bend the heck out of it. I also liked that it had foil on one of the sides that i was putting against the actual door. The one i went with is also a little cheaper, but that was more of a benefit then a deciding factor.

The door came standard with 3/4" of insulation. I have another 3/4" before the lip. I like the foil as well, but it doesn't come on the 1 1/2 and 2" foam for some reason. I was leaning towards using the thicker foam just for the R value's sake. I'll just bite the bullet and go with the 3/4.
 

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Also have to improve the insulation of my garage doors... "improve" is perhaps a big word as for the time now there is nothing and the doors are made by only a thin sheet of "wood panel"
The durofoam panels seems to be a good solution for me too : lights, seems to be easy to fix on my doors with dubble face adhesive and the final result is very clean

Thank you for the idea :thumbup:
 
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Lookin' Good! Very Nice and will bet "toasty."

Ody.

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Looks really nice. Well done!

Thanks man.

The door came standard with 3/4" of insulation. I have another 3/4" before the lip. I like the foil as well, but it doesn't come on the 1 1/2 and 2" foam for some reason. I was leaning towards using the thicker foam just for the R value's sake. I'll just bite the bullet and go with the 3/4.

Interesting. Good luck with whatever you end up going with.

Also have to improve the insulation of my garage doors... "improve" is perhaps a big word as for the time now there is nothing and the doors are made by only a thin sheet of "wood panel"
The durofoam panels seems to be a good solution for me too : lights, seems to be easy to fix on my doors with dubble face adhesive and the final result is very clean

Thank you for the idea :thumbup:

No prob. Sounds like you have an interesting door. I'm sure anything will help no doubt.
 
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Just because i love the comparison shots that keep me motivated!

View into garage: August 14th, 14


View into garage: November 22nd, 14
 
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Finally committed to personalizing it a little more last night. I've had several small garage art pieces that i've wanted to get up on the wall but i've been waiting as there are some variables i'm still thinking through.


The white German plate was from a Euro Delivery BMW that the owner didn't want. My BIL works at a local dealer and gave it to me.




First time i've put these up. I grabbed a whole whack of them from the Porsche museum this summer. Now i just have to get the larger posters framed to really bring my euro garage together.



 
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Looking a little more cozy, and a little less clinical. That's not a bad thing. I like the Porsche cards a lot.

Cozy, yes that's more the word i was going for actually :)

Steady progress, I really like the garage door insulation! I do not know if my door is insulated or not but I am going to look into this!

I'm really feeling the difference thus far. More progress en route!
 

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I wonder how much of a difference that insulation would make in my garage, where it gets 117F outside? If it would help to keep it cooler in my garage? Or when we pull our cars in that are hot, it would just trap the heat inside and make it hotter?
 

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Looks awesome 'Dub. And just in time for winter. ...Although I heard Ottawa has been pretty nice lately.

I'm looking to do this to my door soon and plan (hope) to be able to get Styrofoam and some thin Birch panels over it to go with my plywood theme. I think I can fit it all inside the braces and come up with a way to secure it.
 
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I wonder how much of a difference that insulation would make in my garage, where it gets 117F outside? If it would help to keep it cooler in my garage? Or when we pull our cars in that are hot, it would just trap the heat inside and make it hotter?

That's a great point. Never thought of it as being an issue trapping heat. Obviously not bad for me as it would be a winter bonus bringing a warm car in and having it contribute to heating the garage and then holding that heat. I think for you if you just have a standard single layer steel garage door the insulation will definitely help cool it and create a buffer between the sun cooking the 'hot plate' of a garage door and then in turn your space.

Sweet, looks great!

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Do I spot a little magnetic board under your uppers? Nice touch.

Yes sir. It funny I've actually had it since high school and have used it in the house at various times or in storage at other times. Hasn't seen use in several years so its nice to get it up. I remember seeing yours when i first started my Single garage a few years ago but i had no space at that time.

Looks awesome 'Dub. And just in time for winter. ...Although I heard Ottawa has been pretty nice lately.

I'm looking to do this to my door soon and plan (hope) to be able to get Styrofoam and some thin Birch panels over it to go with my plywood theme. I think I can fit it all inside the braces and come up with a way to secure it.

Thanks Scott. Yea we had weird weather last week, high of 19 one day. We are back to seasonal now though. I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with your door. If you went with a 3/4" Styrofoam the wood should still work.
 
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Washed the car last night finally, after a couple weeks of neglect sadly. I don't know what it is but especially in the "winter" i love being able to drive a clean car while everyone else around me has given up. This was the first time i've been able to use my double garage for my new winter washing procedure. Last winter and all years prior i had my single which during the winter held my GLI for hibernation. That meant drive through car washes couldn't be optimized by completing them in the garage afterwards. This worked great; hit a local drive thru wash, brought it into the garage, put the space heater on and had some fun!





A new version of 'Garages at Night' taken at 7am this morning :)



I've been planning on adding another couple of my 4 lamp t8 lights but i think i'm going to wait on my Xmas gift cards to apply to those :evil:
 
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I'm liking the small touches!

I feel the same way about having a clean car in the winter. Just washed my truck in the driveway last night (~40 degrees) & then pulled it in the 70 degree garage for drying and a v7 once-over. Can't get much better than that! To be clear - I do use the touch less car wash down the street quite often. I just had too much time yesterday...

I may have asked this before - but where did you get the containers sitting on the trackwall shelves?
 
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Containers are actually from Ikea. I scored both sets of three from my mom actually while she was filtering things. They are great and its nice having a few of them. I think one or more of them still have the labels on them, I'll take a look and get back to you.
 
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Has anyone had any issues with breaking garage door springs after adding insulation. How much weight does that stuff add?

Thought about that during the process. So i did carefully watch the opening post install and it didn't show any signs of an issue. Its still way lighter then an actual insulated door. And plus, if the opener breaks i have my excuse to buy the one i want :thumbup:
 

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No issues with mine in about 2 years. Might need to tweak the opener's force dial a bit, but these panels are pretty light.

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I installed 2-inch Styrofoam insulation in all three of my single doors in 1997 (doors installed in 1988). The garage went from baking oven temperature to something close to ambient. Adding attic and wall insulation and an air conditioner a few years later turned the garage into livable space. We had some 40-degree (F) nights this week and the garage, with no heat, stayed above 70. Nothing compared to your latitude but 30-degrees probably means above freezing in your garage -- "sweater" weather.

Adding the foam to my doors didn't affect the springs at all but the doors did not meet Florida's new building codes (set after hurricane Andrew in 1992). After spending $25,000 to repair and upgrade the roof and buy steel storm panels for all the windows and doors, my windstorm insurance would decrease by more than $1,000 a year except for the flimsy garage doors. I replaced the three doors in 2001 and they each came with 7 steel cross-braces and two more vertical braces in each panel. Rather than buy more Styrofoam, I removed and cut up the pieces from the old doors. Thus the patchwork of foam in my doors.

I can't really hide the braces but seeing your door makes me think about replacing the insulation and painting the cross-braces white. Still not pretty but less ugly,

I am certain the added weight of the insulation has no effect on the springs and shouldn't even require adjusting the opener. If you want to double-check, disconnect the door from the opener track and lower it half-way. If the door slams shut, have the tension adjusted. If it stays half-way, you are good to go.
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I like the red/red combo of the cover and the car. Also the Garage Journal emblem is a nice touch above your fire extinguisher. I also like the post-it board, I also do the same thing in Paint planning out my garage details.
 
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I like the red/red combo of the cover and the car. Also the Garage Journal emblem is a nice touch above your fire extinguisher. I also like the post-it board, I also do the same thing in Paint planning out my garage details.

The little touches are my favorite, always nice to hear they are noticed! Its funny the red cover which i love was actually a cheap universal cover i sourced locally. I had a sweet custom California Car cover several years ago but one year while having my car stored in a friends garage his dog decided it looked tasty :( That was the last year i used that option, luckily for me it gave me time to complete my last garage. That was also one of the reasons for the rush with this one.
 

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Looking good!

I too especially enjoy having a clean car in the winter.
 
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