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No stand no. I have a Workmate that i will likely use for projects.

I'd highly suggest finding a stand for it if you plan on getting a decent bit of use out of it. I have an older version of this Ryobi stand and it works well for the $$.
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It really is critical to have proper support on both sides of the work piece. You could get away with the workmate and a couple roller stands if you wanted to.

I built a separate stand for use in my shop, I can snap a pic of it later today if you're interested.
 
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I'd highly suggest finding a stand for it if you plan on getting a decent bit of use out of it. I have an older version of this Ryobi stand and it works well for the $$.
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It really is critical to have proper support on both sides of the work piece. You could get away with the workmate and a couple roller stands if you wanted to.

I built a separate stand for use in my shop, I can snap a pic of it later today if you're interested.

I recently bought that same Ryobi stand for my saw, after years and years of using my workmate as a saw stand. I can't believe I waited this long to get a real saw stand. You save so much time and your cuts will come out top notch.
 
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I'd highly suggest finding a stand for it if you plan on getting a decent bit of use out of it. I have an older version of this Ryobi stand and it works well for the $$.

It really is critical to have proper support on both sides of the work piece. You could get away with the workmate and a couple roller stands if you wanted to.

I built a separate stand for use in my shop, I can snap a pic of it later today if you're interested.

I recently bought that same Ryobi stand for my saw, after years and years of using my workmate as a saw stand. I can't believe I waited this long to get a real saw stand. You save so much time and your cuts will come out top notch.

Maybe one day. I'm thinking i'll have to let it piss me off a bit with the workmate before i run to the store for a stand....

On another note, for the dog lovers out there i had these two putz' running around in the garage with me last night, didn't have my cam or phone at the time but snapped a good one while happily sitting for my wife. Treat time!

 
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dubber, these things go on sale for like 50 or 60% off fairly often and are decent for that price. I have used one for a bout a year, and picked up a second that's still in box for now.



Link: http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/jobmate-folding-work-table-0570029p.html#.VQrSiI6GNzY

The instructions are great, they look like they were drawn by a child, with a crayon... and then photocopied about 50 generations.

Thanks Man, I do have a Black and Decker Workmate which by the look of it is essentially the same thing. I used it with my father-in-laws mitre saw when i did laminate and bamboo flooring in my last house.
 
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For like $15 or so, I was impressed enough to grab a second one. Too annoying having to work on an uneven surface with a few projects.

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if you're going to stick with the workmate for the mitre saw get yourself something to support the work piece. I have one of these from Harbor freight and it works alright (pic is linked to one from Canadian tire).
 

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Ainsley, I have one kind of like that too (was the other side of my "uneven work surface") and when painting trim my oafish brush strokes were enough to move the wood around on the bearings. In the correct application (like actually cutting trim pieces on the mitre saw) it was definitely helpful.

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For those interested this is my other feed stand/support (image is linked)

I got it from lee valley but they don't seem to sell it anymore.
 
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Is that a Bernese Mountain puppy?

Yes sir. My bro in law just got him. He's only a few months old. So cute its crazy! He's going to be huge. Hope he's still nice to my little Beagle when he's all grown up. Its funny he likes to be nice and cool so always wants to go out into the garage :) My kind of dog hahaha

 

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I put my new Craftsman on a workmates and added wheels and built in dedicated tool vacuum. Very portable.

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You're brave to swap tires already, but since your "summer" tires are all seasons (like me) it makes sense. Plus an excuse to use the new tools!

I like how your toybox keeps expanding.
 
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You're brave to swap tires already, but since your "summer" tires are all seasons (like me) it makes sense. Plus an excuse to use the new tools!

I like how your toybox keeps expanding.

I was begging for an excuse to try the new tools for sure. The primary reason to do it then was also to give me extra time in case it didn't work and i needed to go back to the winters, which happened haha. The wheels came with OEM rubber which rubbed on dips, that night after a day of driving i put the winters on and swapped rubber to these guys. These should be much better. And they look awesome to boot! These are actual summer tires and with the crazy temps we are having (-26 C with windchill this morning) i'm going to be waiting another week or so to swap them back on.

 
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I just picked up a torque wrench recently (finally) so i will just be using that for awhile. Funny i had actually never heard of torque sticks before. I googled it and the second thread that came up for me was Garage Journal :)

I don't really trust leaving my wheels and rotors to the torque sticks, nor do I like the price of a reputable brand set which comes with the couple specs you need plus a bunch of others yo'll probably never use.... so rather than being paranoid and "testing" each lug with the torque wrench and having to back each one off a touch and hand torque if it doesn't turn slightly (I may very well have OCD), I just picked up a single one at Princess Auto in 80 ft/lb which I use just to avoid over-torquing the wheels on with the impact, then hand torque up to 90, 100, or what have you (depending on the vehicle.)
 

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I'd highly suggest finding a stand for it if you plan on getting a decent bit of use out of it. I have an older version of this Ryobi stand and it works well for the $$.
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It really is critical to have proper support on both sides of the work piece. You could get away with the workmate and a couple roller stands if you wanted to.

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Ditto.

The Ridgid SUV is very well regarded. But like the saw, wait for a sale, as regular price is probably about what you paid for the saw on sale. ;) That's what I'm doing.
I'm making do with saw horses and such at the moment, and it makes every moment with my Bosch 12" SCMS much less enjoyable than it should me.

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:) I purchased several sets of those for my Ion Redline over the years. The exact name of those tires have changed a couple times, but the design is still similar. I think you will be pleased with them.

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Fwwf, i was worried the conversation might turn another direction hahaha. Glad to hear your review, thanks! First time i've tried these tires, looking forward to them. I usually tend to get Bridgestone Potenzas (which are on the GLI right now). Also have some Pirelli's on the back-up set.
 
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I don't really trust leaving my wheels and rotors to the torque sticks, nor do I like the price of a reputable brand set which comes with the couple specs you need plus a bunch of others yo'll probably never use.... so rather than being paranoid and "testing" each lug with the torque wrench and having to back each one off a touch and hand torque if it doesn't turn slightly (I may very well have OCD), I just picked up a single one at Princess Auto in 80 ft/lb which I use just to avoid over-torquing the wheels on with the impact, then hand torque up to 90, 100, or what have you (depending on the vehicle.)

Thanks for the insight. Yea i'm thinking this current set-up will serve me well.

The Ridgid SUV is very well regarded. But like the saw, wait for a sale, as regular price is probably about what you paid for the saw on sale. ;) That's what I'm doing.
I'm making do with saw horses and such at the moment, and it makes every moment with my Bosch 12" SCMS much less enjoyable than it should me.

AC9945_3v1_Final_4.jpg

That's my main issue with the stands, the price. Seems crazy when a lot of them are indeed the price of the saw they are supporting. Space is another issue. It will come down to use though and at this point it can't be justified. Thanks again for the info.
 

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/\ Agreed!

Picked up this bad boy last night. After lots of reading and talking to people regarding features i should be considering for a Mitre saw i opted for this one. Would have loved to get the Dewalt or Bosch version but for the price and based on my use this will be perfect. 10" Dual-bevel sliding mitre saw. Jumped at the 55% off sale price.


FAIL for not buying a red, black and silver saw!



j/k congrats.
 

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I just went through this thread from top to bottom. Wow. Your garage, and cars are exactly my style. I am also from Ontario, outside Toronto. Have family in Ottawa! I just sold my vw golf last year. I'm currently driving a beautiful 2004 Mercedes E320 4matic, but would really like a Golf Wagon, Diesel in RED.

This thread has completely inspired me. We just moved into a brand new home. Spent the last month gutting/renovating it. Unfortunately it has a single car garage, but a decent size. Your garage is literally everything I wan't in mine.

Beautiful job. So inspiring.
 

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I just went through this thread from top to bottom. Wow. Your garage, and cars are exactly my style. I am also from Ontario, outside Toronto. Have family in Ottawa! I just sold my vw golf last year. I'm currently driving a beautiful 2004 Mercedes E320 4matic, but would really like a Golf Wagon, Diesel in RED.

This thread has completely inspired me. We just moved into a brand new home. Spent the last month gutting/renovating it. Unfortunately it has a single car garage, but a decent size. Your garage is literally everything I wan't in mine.

Beautiful job. So inspiring.

Well if you have a single, be sure to check out his other thread, called dubber's single! Lot's of great stuff in there for managing space in a one car garage.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=182142&page=57
 
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I just went through this thread from top to bottom. Wow. Your garage, and cars are exactly my style. I am also from Ontario, outside Toronto. Have family in Ottawa! I just sold my vw golf last year. I'm currently driving a beautiful 2004 Mercedes E320 4matic, but would really like a Golf Wagon, Diesel in RED.

This thread has completely inspired me. We just moved into a brand new home. Spent the last month gutting/renovating it. Unfortunately it has a single car garage, but a decent size. Your garage is literally everything I wan't in mine.

Beautiful job. So inspiring.

Thanks for all the positive vibes man. :beer: Diesel wagon is something i also would love to have at some point.

Well if you have a single, be sure to check out his other thread, called dubber's single! Lot's of great stuff in there for managing space in a one car garage.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=182142&page=57

Ahaha thanks, for hooking that up!

I am slowly making my way through it!

Awesome! Nice to see that thread still being checked out. A single is a challenge no doubt, hopefully you can use some tricks i learned.
 

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DUBBER, I have a couple of questions if you don't mind. I also live in the same weather and climate that you experience (snow, salt, and other nasty things). My question is about the flooring.

What motivated you to go with the free flow? Obviously, you clean it up and it's fine. Would choosing the diamond or similar version (sealed) be worse for snow? The reason I'm asking is because, I service my own vehicles. If I was to spill some oil, or something similar on the free flow, wouldn't it be difficult to clean the cement underneath with those tiles? Also, how does a jack and other things roll on the free flow?
 
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DUBBER, I have a couple of questions if you don't mind. I also live in the same weather and climate that you experience (snow, salt, and other nasty things). My question is about the flooring.

What motivated you to go with the free flow? Obviously, you clean it up and it's fine. Would choosing the diamond or similar version (sealed) be worse for snow? The reason I'm asking is because, I service my own vehicles. If I was to spill some oil, or something similar on the free flow, wouldn't it be difficult to clean the cement underneath with those tiles? Also, how does a jack and other things roll on the free flow?

It really comes down to personal preference. I chose the FreeFlow as the nature of its design really appealed to me. Snow and water flow through the tiles and out the garage due to to the incline. Debris that goes through once dry i vacuum out and once a year i pull the tiles in the "dirty" area and give it a thorough clean. With oil spilling through you could just pull up a section of tiles without much effort at all. Or put down some absorbent mats prior to the servicing. As for rolling there is no issue. I use the jacks and my rolling stool and its a non-issue. The funny thing is that heavy items are actually easier to push over that surface in comparison to cement. When i was moving out of my Single this past summer with my FreeFlow i could actually push my cabinets (without wheels) around on the surface. Couldn't do that at my new garage prior to the floor going down.

Something else to note is the freeflow isn't as tough as the solid tiles (which makes sense) so you do have to use a flat bottom jack stand and i put a mat under my jack before lifting my car. Again not an issue, but something to be aware of.

Let me know if you have any other questions. :thumbup:



Dubber, I was reading the flyers at breakfast this morning and noticed this...

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OJ, you ****! hahaha, thanks for the link. Actually going tonight to look at another few items that popped up on my sale alert.
 

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THANKS for the info! :) I already went out last night and purchased the brackets to hold my recycle bins on the wall. Today, I'm working on pulling out all of the screws and 2x4's nailed all over the walls in my garage. There is also a huge mezzanine above the garage door rails that does not allow me to have a garage door opener. Pulling that down will be the next project.

I'd like patch that mess and then mud everything and fill all the holes. Then calk/paint similar to what you have done. We gutted the kitchen and installed a brand new one - I kept all of the original cabinets which I would like to paint Grey, and the outside trim on the doors black for some contrast.

I have gotten a lot of ideas (just finished going through your single thread) from both of your builds.
 

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As for rolling there is no issue. I use the jacks and my rolling stool and its a non-issue. The funny thing is that heavy items are actually easier to push over that surface in comparison to cement. When i was moving out of my Single this past summer with my FreeFlow i could actually push my cabinets (without wheels) around on the surface. Couldn't do that at my new garage prior to the floor going down.

So do you think it is possible to use GoJak car dollies on a FreeFlow floor? I assumed it wouldn't be possible because either the casters would damage the tiles due to concentrated weight or they would be too difficult to roll over the textured FreeFlow surface. Maybe the heaviest duty GoJak model using 4" and 5" diameter caster wheels would work with a lightweight car on FreeFlow tiles?

http://www.zendextool.com/gojak/
 
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THANKS for the info! :) I already went out last night and purchased the brackets to hold my recycle bins on the wall. Today, I'm working on pulling out all of the screws and 2x4's nailed all over the walls in my garage. There is also a huge mezzanine above the garage door rails that does not allow me to have a garage door opener. Pulling that down will be the next project.

I'd like patch that mess and then mud everything and fill all the holes. Then calk/paint similar to what you have done. We gutted the kitchen and installed a brand new one - I kept all of the original cabinets which I would like to paint Grey, and the outside trim on the doors black for some contrast.

I have gotten a lot of ideas (just finished going through your single thread) from both of your builds.

The little things really make a big difference and honestly i found it fun chipping away at it. Make sure to document and start up a thread. I'm sure i won't be the only one wanting to see it :beer:


So do you think it is possible to use GoJak car dollies on a FreeFlow floor? I assumed it wouldn't be possible because either the casters would damage the tiles due to concentrated weight or they would be too difficult to roll over the textured FreeFlow surface. Maybe the heaviest duty GoJak model using 4" and 5" diameter caster wheels would work with a lightweight car on FreeFlow tiles?

http://www.zendextool.com/gojak/

I can't say with certainty as i have no person experience with those, however in saying that, my gut says it would be fine. I would think those big caster's would help mitigate any damage and make it easier to move. I've had no issue rolling heavy tool boxes around the garage.
 

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I can't say with certainty as i have no person experience with those, however in saying that, my gut says it would be fine. I would think those big caster's would help mitigate any damage and make it easier to move. I've had no issue rolling heavy tool boxes around the garage.


I use Go Jaks (granted my floor is epoxied - not free flow) and think with a light car you should be fine. I on a smooth floor I can move a very heavy car one handed.... on a rough floor (old floor was pretty rough...) I can move a light car one handed or a heavy car two handed.
 
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