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Ductless in shop -- what about dust?

olytdi

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I'm contemplating what sort of heat I want to put in my new 36x36 building. I'm considering a ductless unit. I have a couple in the house and love them.

I'm wondering particularly about how much shop dust will negatively affect a ductless. I'm guessing I'd have to clean the filters monthly...

Who has ductless in your shop and how is it going with your dusty projects?
 
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Jackfre

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Dust affects all equipment. Dust particularly affects mshp’s. You need primary and secondary dust collection if you are thinking of mini-splits for a wood shop. They are a great way to H&C your space, but make sure you are instructed by your installing contractor on how to remove the complete cover, drop the blower and clean the coils. The fin spacing on them is very tight. Yes you will have to clean the filters, but thinking that is the end is absolutely incorrect.
 

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I have seen shops heated with stoves that burned wood and coal; they had no problem with shop dust.

Filters?; they did not need filters.
 

DHCrocks

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put some cut to fit air conditioner filter over the top of the unit where the intake is.
this is what I use, I see its not available now, but there are other brands that are similar.


I get 6 months to a year out of one before it needs changing. I have noticed that not once in the past 4 years have I had to clean the filter screens on the inside of the unit as no dust ever reaches it. I don't really notice any difference in the airflow and it doesn't seem it impede performance.
 
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olytdi

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Thanks for the replies. The cut to fit filter experience is interesting. I'd be sure to have that conversation with whomever I consider getting the unit from.

It's a general purpose home shop -- maintenance/repair of vehicles, tractors; home projects, some welding, minor woodworking...just weekend warrior stuff.
 

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I'm contemplating what sort of heat I want to put in my new 36x36 building. I'm considering a ductless unit. I have a couple in the house and love them.

I'm wondering particularly about how much shop dust will negatively affect a ductless. I'm guessing I'd have to clean the filters monthly...

Who has ductless in your shop and how is it going with your dusty projects?
I originally wanted an exposed duct system due to the size of my building and the amount of dust that I anticipate accumulating in the space. My HVAC installer came up with a ductless system with an additional air handler. This way, the air handler goes in the area nearest to the highest dust prone area and has a traditional removable filter. It's a 5 ton system with two 2K wall mounted heads and a 1K ducted heat pump air handler.
Mistubishi air handler model no. SVZKP12NA. I'm enclosing the major dust prone area 700+ sq ft within the 3300 sq ft space.
 
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Busted_Knuckles

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I run a Dayton, Hepa shop air filter that hangs from the ceiling. Im doing 99% mechanical work.

Not to keep the HVAC equipment clean, but to help keep my lungs clean. Its little more than a box with a squirrel cage fan in it.

This would not keep a mini-split clean, but would likely put a dent in the problem. Your lungs would thank you.

The filters in this thing get almost black over time, and Im not running diesels in the shop, mostly just turning wrenches.

Grizzly, Jet, and likely others sell similar units.

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CumminsFan

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Type of shop, how you plan on using it, and the type of work you plan to perform should be considered as much as the type of HVAC system. Since you are talking heat, will your shop be closed up tight to limit heat loss? Air quality whether it be from dust, welding smoke, paint fumes, etc. can be a real problem for our health working in the shop. Type of Contaminants/Air Quality/Fresh Air are key considerations. A ductless mini split is a marginal performer in dealing with these issues in the shop. If your chosen solution addresses these issues by other means, then a ductless system might be the best solution for your shop and type of work. I personally like PugetDude’s shop HVAC solution, good air filtration and air distribution without the hassle of cleaning the mini split wall mounted evaporator periodically. Not necessarily a inexpensive approach but handles the filtering/cleaning problem with easily replaced standard (cheap) filters. Not sure what type of filter Puget Dude is using but these newer compact filters that are HEPA/Merv ** rated look like they will do a pretty decent job of clearing the air of fine particulates found in the shop. Augmenting the air filtering to handle large amounts of dust generated in a closed shop space is something to think about. As soon as the supply chain can cough up my back ordered equipment, I am installing a system similar to Puget Dude‘s (minus the diamond plate). I don’t really have a good approach to address make up fresh air. A fresh air heat exchanger is beyond my budget currently. I am in Phoenix, so my focus is on cooling but my shop closes up pretty tight to manage the hellacious summer heat. Air quality inside my shop is something I think about a lot. I should have done a better job of protecting my lungs in the shop as a younger fabricator. My current plan is to keep welding, grinding, painting, solvent cleaning, etc. to the cooler morning hours outside. It isn’t ideal but my lungs and budget appreciate it. I’m not much of a woodworker but this strategy works for me. Best of luck with your shop.
 
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