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camarotoolman

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Hope I spelled right, from Advance auto. The clear coat did not shine, just a flat mat finish. They gave me money back but that doesn't cover my time. The Dupacolor base coat seems to but OK. I wet sanded it to 2000. Did I do something wrong? This is my 1st paint job. hich clearcoat would be better? Any ideas or suggestions. Thanks JR
 
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Did you buff the clearcoat out with a cutting and polishing compound after doing the 2000 grit sanding? The sanding will only smooth the paint down, it won't make it shine. That is what the polishing compound is for. If we are talking about the same duplicolor paint (paintshop) I think the stuff you have is a laquer based paint. It won't shine like the more modern poly's without some work. If you ever heard of the term rubbing the paint out that term came from when everyone used to use laquer paint. The more you sanded and polished it the better the gloss became. Of course, too much sanding and you have to apply another coat.

Keith
 

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Are you sure you didn't buy Flat clear?

Yes they do make it and I have heard complaints from people that have done this that it is not obviously labeled on some cans.
 
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I know I didn't use the flat, I noticed that at the store. Should I get some buffing compound and try to buff it? Thanks for the help.
 

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One thing you can do is experiment. Take some test surface and try spraying from different distances and different coverage rates (how fast you go back and forth). One thing that can cause your problem is spraying at to great a distance from the surface. You "fog" the final coat of a metalflake that way, but it will make a clear look more like primer.
 

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If you are serious about your clear coat and want to justify your time, buy 2 part clear from a auto body supply place. There are many brands available, go with what is recommended. You will need an HVLP or air sprayer to apply. The only way to go, done right the first time.
 
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Bender78

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That duplicolor product is a cheap lacquer, and is VERY sensitive to temperature and humidity when applied. You will be dollars and hours ahead by using a better quality material. Don't waste your time trying to polish a turd.

How do I know? I tried the stuff once. Never again.
 

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I refinished two sets of winter wheels, one set with an Einszett silver color coat and clear, the other with a duplicolor anthracite color and clear. Both sets were prepped the same, applied in similar conditions and the wheels are now being used in similar conditions (crappy winter weather, salted roads, etc.). The Einszett still looks new after nearly 5 years with the exception of the brake dust (its winter, I can't wash wheels with when its below freezing). The Duplicolor looked weathered as soon as it dried and has been slowly flaking off over the years to the point that when I put new winter rubber on, I'll be refinishing them again. I know which paint I won't be using.
 

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I refinished two sets of winter wheels, one set with an Einszett silver color coat and clear, the other with a duplicolor anthracite color and clear. Both sets were prepped the same, applied in similar conditions and the wheels are now being used in similar conditions (crappy winter weather, salted roads, etc.). The Einszett still looks new after nearly 5 years with the exception of the brake dust (its winter, I can't wash wheels with when its below freezing). The Duplicolor looked weathered as soon as it dried and has been slowly flaking off over the years to the point that when I put new winter rubber on, I'll be refinishing them again. I know which paint I won't be using.

I used to do some work for a local ambulance service, it was quick easy money because all they cared about was shiney paint and safe bodywork lol :thumbup: . Anyway the owner decided one day to try the Duplicolor paint shop system on a unit I was going to paint for them because it was "cheaper". Mind you I would normaly spray in thier shop so I wouldn't have to worry about bringing those chariots of death to my place, so I told the owner to sit in with me to check out the progress, I knew how this was going to go and he had seen me paint before using what I wanted. After one and a half gallons of white of the 'cheap' Duplicolor and still no nice shine (for what I charged I was NOT sanding and buffing, after all its an ambulance, ever pay attention to one up close?) and it also wasn't covering. Needless to say somebody learned a valuable lesson, cheaper ain't always better, I had to redo that truck and use the product I wanted to use, guess how much of the lesser priced Dupont Nason line took to paint that ambulance? Around 3 quarts and it looked great for an ambulance.
 
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camarotoolman

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It was summer in Fla. That could have been part of the problem. they sell ppg and Dupont in my town, I'll get some and try it again. Its also cooled OFF and IS less humid now. I did spay some rattle can clear coat on it and thats looked ok, I think what I used was just ****.
 
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