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NYBODYMAN

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My garage is finally finished as of August and I am getting ready to start doing some body work for side jobs. I'd like to buy or create some sort of dust collection system. I have seen the Dust Deputy and it looks great but I just don't quite know how I could make it work for my application other than holding onto the vacuum hose while I sand. Anyone have any ideas? Anyone else doing body work doing something similar? when I used to be in the industry we would just turn on the enormous wall fan during heavy sanding and when we would blow the cars clean.
 
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I plan on using a HF dust collector or similar. Rather than vent into a clothe filter mine will go outside. I plan to use a gate so that I can collect wood dust in a can, and use it as a welding fume extractor as well. I recently got a Grizzly Industrial Tools catalog and there are quite a few neat hoods and hoses that I plan to get.

You should be able to run a flex hose near the work and a hood to get most of it....

http://www.grizzly.com/products/Big-Mouth-Dust-Hood-with-Stand/T10117

http://www.grizzly.com/products/Big-Gulp-Dust-Hood/D4242

http://www.grizzly.com/search?s=category:Dust Collection Accessories&page=1
 

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I have a couple of Viking dust collection vacuums that are designed for DA's & sanders. Pm me if you are interested.
 
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I plan on using a HF dust collector or similar. Rather than vent into a clothe filter mine will go outside. I plan to use a gate so that I can collect wood dust in a can, and use it as a welding fume extractor as well. I recently got a Grizzly Industrial Tools catalog and there are quite a few neat hoods and hoses that I plan to get.

You should be able to run a flex hose near the work and a hood to get most of it....

http://www.grizzly.com/products/Big-Mouth-Dust-Hood-with-Stand/T10117

http://www.grizzly.com/products/Big-Gulp-Dust-Hood/D4242

http://www.grizzly.com/search?s=category:Dust Collection Accessories&page=1

Which HF dust collector are you getting? Do you think these grizzly items could be used with a shop vac set up?
 

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Will they hook up to my current air tools?

As long as your air tools are set up to accept a vacuum.
The way that the Viking is setup, you plug the vac. into a 220 15 amp outlet,
plug your air line into the vac. & the vac hose has a air line attached to it that you put on your sander.
 
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I don't have any air tools which are dust collector compatible. This is why I am looking for ideas on how to do this without having the special tools.
 

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Following along for info. I have never seen a "clean" body shop, full body shop that is. I can look at someones old box and clearly see the bodymen vs mechanics, body shops just get so nasty with that flour like dust.
 

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I do body work in my garage all the time and I use the vacuum system with my tools including my hand blocks and get very very little dust in my shop.
I also had one of the biggest shops in So. Cal and I insisted on it being clean all the time.
It can be done but its not cheap but well worth the $$
Here is a shot of my bondo set up here at home

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The back side
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Following along for info. I have never seen a "clean" body shop, full body shop that is. I can look at someones old box and clearly see the bodymen vs mechanics, body shops just get so nasty with that flour like dust.

Here is one for you
One of the largest in So. Cal. it's clean and full
We did over $1,000,000.00 (million) a month and the shop was always that clean, neat and organized

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And the rooftop parking lot of work in progress


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http://www.harborfreight.com/2-hp-industrial-5-micron-dust-collector-97869.html

It is the same as the ones offered by Grizzly, just cheaper. These are about like the mills and lathes, built in the same plant overseas, painted different colors for different distributors.

If you wanted to not vent outside, you can buy different filter bags, and even canister style filters that will catch smaller particles. Folks are arranging these things in various configurations to meet their needs.

Do a search for Harbor Freight Dust Collector and look at them...........
 

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Here is one for you
One of the largest in So. Cal. it's clean and full
We did over $1,000,000.00 (million) a month and the shop was always that clean, neat and organized

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qn1c15.jpg


And the rooftop parking lot of work in progress


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Holy kick *** dude! That is awesome. i love it. who has your sanding tools with air and vac hookup? eastwood?

also how do you capture dust with sanding blocks? one of the funnel type arrangements? also the vac you have at home

awesome home cart and amazing shop. love it.
 
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Yeah Don Long, awesome set up and nice shop. I guess what I'm really getting at is how do you collect the dust without the "dust collecting" air tools? Do you just hold the vacuum hose in one hand while working, do you prop it up somewhere? How often do you have to change the filter on your shop vac? The Dust Deputy seems like it eliminates needing to change the filter on the shop vac. Please advise on how you use this system.
 
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Following along for info. I have never seen a "clean" body shop, full body shop that is. I can look at someones old box and clearly see the bodymen vs mechanics, body shops just get so nasty with that flour like dust.

While body work is messy, it is possible to have a somewhat clean shop. The shops I used to work in never had collection systems but we had large wall fans that sucked everything out of the shop.
 

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who has your sanding tools with air and vac hookup? eastwood?

I got my sanding blocks from my paint supplier they are from a company named MERCA and they have a screen like sand paper that works very well

also how do you capture dust with sanding blocks? one of the funnel type arrangements? also the vac you have at home
awesome home cart and amazing shop. love it.

Thanks for the compliments
Here are a couple of pic's of my hand blocks.


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Over at Leno's shop they installed an old paint booth that is only used for sanding. Before that they just did it outside. The booth is installed the other side of the main workshop to the vehicles... actually in what was a separate building until they joined them together. Looks like the building is just used for wood butchery, paint prep & maybe upholstery.
 
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Unfortunately I am not in the market to replace all of my air tools with dust collection ones. I think I may try this dust deputy or those Grizzly ones from above.
 

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I have an old furnace fan set on high venting my shop to the woods. Puts everything airborne outside. The shop vac gets what's on the floor. I've cosidered one of those recirculating dust catchers, but this has worked for 20+ years.
 
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http://www.harborfreight.com/2-hp-industrial-5-micron-dust-collector-97869.html

It is the same as the ones offered by Grizzly, just cheaper. These are about like the mills and lathes, built in the same plant overseas, painted different colors for different distributors.

If you wanted to not vent outside, you can buy different filter bags, and even canister style filters that will catch smaller particles. Folks are arranging these things in various configurations to meet their needs.

Do a search for Harbor Freight Dust Collector and look at them...........

HF only has one-the 2 HP one that you posted above. It looks nice and is much cheaper. Only thing I don't understand is that the HF one runs on 120 Volt outlet while the 2 HP Grizzly one needs 240 Volts.

I am thinking ultimately since I am not going to directly connect to any tools, that a HF or Grizzly dust collector and one of these hoods might work. http://www.grizzly.com/products/Big-Mouth-Dust-Hood-with-Stand/T10117

I guess I can just place the hood near the car or part I am sanding/working on and hopefully it captures all if not most of the dust.

Does this sound plausible or am I wasting my time if I am not connecting directly to any tools.

Thanks for any/all help.
 

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If memory serves me correctly, somewhere on a nother forum a member dug into the 120V versus 240V issue. I think that this motor can be rewired for 240, it comes setup for 120.

I think with the hood, I will lay mine on the ground directly under whatever I am working on. It seems like I always have a pile of dust, and then just brush the rest of it down. I think blowing off body panels after sanding is the quickest way to make a mess.
 
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Yeah the HF specs state 120/240 so I I guess it comes 120 and can be converted. Which are you going to be using it with?

I think I will just try to blow the dust into the hood.

Also, reading the Grizzly manual for the comparable unit, it talks about using certain hoses and actually buying a copper wire kit to ground the hose so static electricity doesn't build up and cause an explosion. Is this something you are concerned about or is it overkill. Where are you getting your hoses from?
 

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I am going to plumb the shop with 4" pvc, and have a few connection points. I will buy a couple kits from harbor freight with the hoses and then miscellaneous fittings from Grizzly.

As far as grounding it goes, I don't plan to. There has been several people using these with no issues.
 

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I am building a hood over my fab table that I will also connect a port to with a section of hose, so I can pull out welding fumes, and grinder dust.
 
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