Dutch Boy Alkyd paint

[hans109h]

Has anyone used Dutch Boy alkyd direct-to-metal paint? I see it is a Menards exclusive. I can get it locally for $35. I'm wondering how it would compare to something like BM P22 or the Sherwin-Williams equivalent. I'm in the market for an industrial light grey for a SB Heavy 10.

Alkyd Direct-to-Metal | Dutch Boy

Dutch Boy Alkyd Direct-to-Metal Industrial-Strength Coating is for metal surfaces, including machinery, equipment and piping.

www.dutchboy.com

Thanks,

Hans

 

[PCustoms]

Never used it, but seems very cheap for a a paint these days.


I used to use Sherwin Williams DTM years ago and it was phenomenal.

 

[spatchthepunk]

I just used this same paint in off the shelf gloss white from Menards.I used it to paint 14 1960's? aluminum storm windows.I removed the storms scuffed the aluminum with a scotchbright pad.I didn't use a primer just painted a light first coat then 2 more coats maybe 5 hours apart.I just used a normal 1 1/2 inch house brush.I was concerned about using anything from Dutch Boy but I was pretty impressed.It is pretty thin so expect drips.It levels out nicely and almost looks like a sprayed finish.Time will tell how it lasts but for the cost I am pretty happy.

 

[hans109h]

Thanks for the report. The product data sheet didn't mention if the product could be tinted, so I reached out to Dutch Boy and just heard back that it can. I'm going to try it out and see how I like it. My guess, given that Dutch Boy is part of the Sherwin Williams family is that it's similar to their direct to metal product, but a step down from the same that includes urathane, but the price reflects this.

Thanks,

Hans

 

[Stelzer]

BM's P22 is a urethane alkyd and far superior to Dutch Boy Alkyd DTM.
SW's Alkyd DTM is nothing like Dutch Boy's. SW's is designed to be applied at nearly twice the thickness, probably because it has less volume solids, but Dutch Boy is very much geared to the home gamer who isn't interested in knowing the hardness of their paint or the impact or abrasion resistance, nor any ASTM Standard Tests, as witnessed by Dutch Boy's omission of those specs in their PDS.
SW will often copy and rebrand products from companies they acquire if they are superior to those of SW's equivalent, but Dutch Boy is not in that category. Pretty sure Dutch Boy Alkyd DTM only comes in gloss also whereas most of SW's & BM's similar offerings come in semi-gloss.

With proper prep, almost anything will work though. Materials are a small cost usually for projects where alkyd dtm is being used though, so I personally don't think there's any value in going with the lower cost product if it's also substantially lower quality.

 

[hans109h]

I contacted BM customer service today to find a local source for P22 near me, they provided a local retailer but knew they would need to order it. Out of stock from the regional supplier in the base I need, and it sounds like it might be the end of the road for P22 as they transition to CP22 to comply with VOC requirements. CP22 contains more solids and the drying time is double. That was not in stock either.

The owner got on the phone with his BM rep who suggested R31 Coronado polyurethane alkyd enamel. The specs are quite similar to P22. Has a dry to touch time of 2 hours, but R31 time to recoat is 12 hr vs 8 for P22.

I went ahead and had them order the R31.

Hans

 

[Wrench97]

Whos is BM?
And I googled P22 and came up with a gun and mountain lion that lived in Griffith park in LA

 

[hans109h]

Benjamin Moore. P22 is their urethane alkyd enamel.

Hans