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Thats not a ripoff, a ripoff would be selling you that box and sending you something else, or claiming this box is something that it is not

Theres nothing misleading here, its just overpriced

Check out my ad for an Iphone 4 "box only". People are bidding $300 for an empty box
 

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Thats not a rip off, it's "stupid bait". There is a guy selling a "Rare Nostalgia Weiand SBF Ford Tunnel Ram" for $399 used. A new one at Summit Racing is $342.90. On a search, the Summit item is the very next line. Mr. Nostalgia is just trolling for the clueless. eBay is full of this stuff. On car parts especially, I think we're about to come full circle. People were sure that eBay and the like were going to kill swap meets. Now that the greedy, the gougers and rip off artists fill the pages we are moving back to looking each other in the eye as we shop for used parts. Or at least dealing amongst know felons, like we do here. ;) IMHO.
 
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If someone would buy that without researching it, so be it. There is someone in my area that posts various HF stuff, brand new, for more than it costs at the HF store. If someone doesn't know better, and wants to pay $10 for a HF float charger, let 'em.
 

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Same here on kijiji with Canadian Tire tools. They buy them at the weekly sale price then sell them a bit under retail.

Research,research,research.......but in some cases the buyer sets the price based on demand.
 

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Thats not a ripoff, a ripoff would be selling you that box and sending you something else, or claiming this box is something that it is not

Theres nothing misleading here, its just overpriced

Check out my ad for an Iphone 4 "box only". People are bidding $300 for an empty box

Someones not going to be happy on that one.:willy_nil I just ened an auction that had a make offer, buyer didn't use it and paid asking price.
 
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There are some things that are illegal, but there are some things that are unethical! I know that it is a buyer beware on ebay. RV , go the extra mile, do the ethical thing and remind your bidders that it is just a box, you would appreciate that if you were in their shoes, nobody in right mind would pay that amount for an ipad box! Allow bidders to drop out of bid, unless they indeed are insane and want to pay 375 for a box!
 

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Notice that 98% of the bids on the iphone box is the same 0 feedback new member. This is a common scenario where the seller uses another account to start pumping up the price and get people excited and think it's the hot thing to buy. You can see he increased his own bid 56 times to make the number of bids high trying to start a frenzy. Problem is some ***** is likely to fall for it, who won't look at the bid history to see what is happening.

Little shady of the seller yes, but he isn't lying about anything. But any stupid *** that wins the auction deserves what he gets, ebay isn't for everyone, and this type of stuff helps to weed out the sheeple.. If they don't buy these empty boxes they will be buying snuggies and shamwows at 3am off tv anyway so what's the difference.

Just like the loser that paid like $4000 for a PS2 empty box when they came out. He filed a claim, but ebay sided with the seller, because the auction clearly stated it was box only.
 

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almost true except if he is using another account to bid up his item then he is guilty of shill bidding which is against the law, and since ebay is a national site then it will fall under the feds so it will be that much more against him. That is if anyone reports him.

but I do agree, epay is a ripoff these days, things rarely come up that are a real deal like back in the early days.
 

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It's called "doing your homework" you must check if there's something for a cheaper price BEFORE you buy! Plus it's called" READING THE WHOLE AD!" If you don't do these things, don't blame EBay! It's your own fault!:evil:
 

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The toolbox seller offers free shipping. A lot of his markup is going to that.
 

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the price of the box includes shipping. so if you live out in some remote place of the us it might not be such a bad deal. you do have to know what your doing when buying on ebay or anywhere.
 

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Thats not a ripoff, a ripoff would be selling you that box and sending you something else, or claiming this box is something that it is not

Theres nothing misleading here, its just overpriced

Check out my ad for an Iphone 4 "box only". People are bidding $300 for an empty box

Will you make the buyer buy if they realize it's a (their) mistake at the end of the auction?
 
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Thats not a ripoff, a ripoff would be selling you that box and sending you something else, or claiming this box is something that it is not

Theres nothing misleading here, its just overpriced

Check out my ad for an Iphone 4 "box only". People are bidding $300 for an empty box


That's border-line rip-off.

When one says "white box no accessories", some buyers will think that it's a white-box product, which is a real thing. White box = retail product in white box and w/o retail packaging.
 

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Ebay = ripoff

The two words are synonyms.

I have bought and sold stuff for years on ebay. I had 1 buyer that screwed me for $150.

It protects buyers but not so much sellers.


Still I buy and sell on ebay and craigslist. It's a great way to find great deals.

Ripoff, no!! Just be aware. That goes for everything in life!!
 

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I don't think you have to worry about the empty box, it's all really two people bidding with 0 feedback....
 

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Will you make the buyer buy if they realize it's a (their) mistake at the end of the auction?

Why would he not? They entered a contract to make the purchase, if they cannot read the simple 1 sentence description then they may just need to learn the hard way. Not to be a jerk, but it may be a good lesson for them to learn to open there eyes in the future.

This is not the Nigerian money scam, or the craiglist car scam where you are tricked into wiring money somewhere. This is a plain and simple auction for a product that is clearly stated in the description that it is just a box.

That's border-line rip-off.

When one says "white box no accessories", some buyers will think that it's a white-box product, which is a real thing. White box = retail product in white box and w/o retail packaging.

I definitely agree the title seems to be worded for the specific purpose of sounding like how oem white box electronics are sold, but the picture is clearly a retail box, and the description clearly states there is no phone included.

"This is just a box there is no iPhone that comes with the box"

I don't think it's right, or defending him. But if anyone can simply read then there won't be any confusion. Oh and of course they have the ability to email the seller before bidding. So if they just bid blindly, I feel no sympathy.
 
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Thats not a ripoff, a ripoff would be selling you that box and sending you something else, or claiming this box is something that it is not

Theres nothing misleading here, its just overpriced

Check out my ad for an Iphone 4 "box only". People are bidding $300 for an empty box

I hope they track you down and gut you when they find out you sent them a box. :evil:
 

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what the hell are people doing with all these boxes? They have to be dropping in fake merchandise and selling them on the corner. I saw one auction where a guy had a pile of new boxes with accessories. Most of the auctions dont appear to go higher than $20-$30.
 

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EBay isn't all rip offs,its people like Dan that make it seem that way to people. I have bought and sold on eBay for over 10 years. My feedback is 100%. People like Dan should be banned without even a explanation from eBay. Use your brain and there are some crazy good deals,if your a idiot you probably do deserve to get burnt but that doesn't excuse the person on the other end.
 

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EBay isn't all rip offs,its people like Dan that make it seem that way to people. I have bought and sold on eBay for over 10 years. My feedback is 100%. People like Dan should be banned without even a explanation from eBay. Use your brain and there are some crazy good deals,if your a idiot you probably do deserve to get burnt but that doesn't excuse the person on the other end.

The seller that lists an empty box should be banned? Why? If someone wants to bid on an empty box so be it.. If they are to stupid to read it is empty, that's there own fault.

Now, in the case of bidding it up with another account to cause a frenzy is against the rules and action should be taken, but just listing such item and stating it is empty is totally legitimate and should be allowed without issue. As some people collect dumb **** like empty boxes and other pointless memorabilia like that for whatever reasons.
 

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Your right. I understand your point. I guess to me listing that auctions sole purpose is to prey on dumb people.
Lol the more I say the more i realize its probably OK and the buyers are the problem. I try to be as honest as possible with anything I sell. It just seems shady to me but understand its buyer beware.
 

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That's border-line rip-off.

When one says "white box no accessories", some buyers will think that it's a white-box product, which is a real thing. White box = retail product in white box and w/o retail packaging.

I agree. His ad is deceptive. He should have called it "Empty Iphone Box" in the title.

The buyer will easily win the SNAD and he'll probably get a negative feedback.
 

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I buy a lot on the internet and rarely buy from ebay. Typically lowest price is amazon.com, but not always and they certainly don't have everything. Find something you want, and google it by name. If you don't know the name, then search google images and you'll find something close enough to google further.
I also use the deal websites like slickdeals.com, fatwallet.com - lots of deals to be had ubt ebay is overpriced and they always get you on shipping.
 

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The empty box scam gets huge when new gaming consoles come out, sure it is the same thing with any big new electronic device. Worst I saw recently was a Craftsman 309pc set that someone bought with BIN for $399 thw same week it was $279 @ sears and the next day it went down to $250. Someone didn't do their homework at all on that. If they would have just searched completed auctions they would have known the going ebay rate was around $280. I've bought some great things from the industry wholesale guys at way under half price usually because of a small ding or a small missing part on a new item.

Any more my favorite way to search ebay is to search BIN and newly listed, you find people listing stuff for good deals every now and then. Also a big fan of the make an offer feature and deal with most people who do free shipping because of their volume.
 

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There was a newspaper columnist a while back who made the offer to his readers of a genuine engraved Lincoln portrait, produced by one of the finest engraving mints in the world, collectible, yada yada... just $1.00.

It was, of course, a penny, which he described with complete if somewhat obscure accuracy. The Secret Service and FTC got on him for it.
 

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Why should anybody care what someone sells their property for if it is advertised accurately?

I sell all the time on ebay, it is a auction and auctions sometimes go stupid high or start out stupid high before the bidding.

Not enough hours in the day to protect the naive and stupid from themselves.
 

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I got a great price on some power tools today so Ebay isn't all bad!
 

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But apparently for some there is enough time to take advantage of them...

If something is advertised and correctly described, then it is the buyers problem to become educated on what market is, not the seller.

Unless you are a flipping socialist, it is nobody's place to tell what someone is to sell their own property for. It is easy to whine and snivel pointing out over priced stuff, but the end it is between that buyer and that seller and nobody else's business.

It is not my place as a seller if some naive or social retard wants to over bid or over pay for my stuff. If you have family or friends that are naive or social retards that can not ascertain what market is of something, then they need to stay off the internet.

People have a twist sense of what a true "rip off" is. Someone overpaying or over bidding on accurate and honestly described items on ebay is not a rip off.
 
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