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It is hard to tell from the photos but are some of the "magazine worthy" garages using some special wall surface? They are a bit too clean to believe. FRP sheets? Formica? Special paint? Anti graffiti spray on coating? Maybe just on the lower sections? All the different colored and striped walls can't be just cosmetics, can they? Anyone use porcelain tile?

Anyone use a removable and pressure washable panel around the especially messy jobs? Either permanently placed, relocatable, or ad hoc? ( One former employer had an especially nasty area for the extra nasty jobs. It was kept bare and pressure washed often. I want something with a bit more style.)
 
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If you're talking about residential garages posted here, maybe they're just owned by neat people. ;) I don't recall ever doing anything in my garage that sprayed crud on the walls.

Commercial garages, with messy employees, may be a different deal. As mentioned FRP panels would probably work, or whatever it is they use in commercial car washes.
 

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I was thinking of using PVC for baseboard trim in my garage and then I saw these 4x8 sheets of PVC for about 3X the cost of the trim...which got me thinking.

I’d only need four sheets to do the side of my garage, and it would be durable and waterproof.

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IMO some of the 'magazine worthy shots' are (1) immediately after completion, and/or (2) not really working garages.

Like the recent 'Autohaus' thread. A garage fetishist. IMO
 
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Not quite pressure-washable, but I use these all over my garage:

https://www.lowes.com/pd/47-75-in-x-7-98-ft-Smooth-White-Hardboard-Wall-Panel/3015239

They are cheap enough to be disposable, and very resistant to fluids. They also function as a dry erase board. I haven't lined my walls with them; I just have at least one spare to pull out as needed.

I never, never would have considered this stuff. Dry erase, really?

My long term plan involves FRP panels for the bottom 4 ft

I used to install the pebbly stuff. Its only avaiable in solid ugly colors. Its a bit fragile. I am considering formica because it can look like anything and is fairly tough. It comes in up to 5 x 12 sheets locally.


If you're talking about residential garages posted here, maybe they're just owned by neat people. ;) I don't recall ever doing anything in my garage that sprayed crud on the walls.

Commercial garages, with messy employees, may be a different deal. As mentioned FRP panels would probably work, or whatever it is they use in commercial car washes.

I cant work on hydraulics without spraying it everywhere. It gets nasty around my hotwork. Have you seen me paint? Everywhere eventually.

Maybe I can talk my way behind the scenes in a commercial car wash. Or, watch episodes of "Breaking Bad".

I was thinking of using PVC for baseboard trim in my garage and then I saw these 4x8 sheets of PVC for about 3X the cost of the trim...which got me thinking.

I’d only need four sheets to do the side of my garage, and it would be durable and waterproof.

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completely new to me product. Rigid or flexible? I will look for some.

IMO some of the 'magazine worthy shots' are (1) immediately after completion, and/or (2) not really working garages.

Like the recent 'Autohaus' thread. A garage fetishist. IMO

Damn, dont say that. That's like hearing there is no Santa Claus.
 

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The pvc is rigid. Fairly tough...and waterproof. You can also get it in black from Laird plastics (here in MN) or possibly a sign shop near you.


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I'd suggest stainless steel skins a la restaurant kitchens, if you are dealing with hydraulic fluid. Sometimes 'used' can be found. Or start searching restaurant supply sources.
 

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I used to install the pebbly stuff. Its only avaiable in solid ugly colors. Its a bit fragile. I am considering formica because it can look like anything and is fairly tough. It comes in up to 5 x 12 sheets locally.

What are you looking for, if solid white is considered "ugly"? Rainbow stripes? Personally, I like the idea of glossy white to reflect light but I can understand wanting more color options.

Coroplast might be an inexpensive, lightweight, easy-to-clean option. It's not the sturdiest, but it would probably handle most garage duties just fine, and it comes in most any color you'd want. You can find it online, or at most sign shops. If you mounted some aluminum channel on the walls, you could just slide the sheets in/out for cleaning or replacement or if you wanted to redecorate with a new color.
 

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I suspect most photo's are just after completion. Paint is cheap and easy to redo as needed. I would take pictures of my garage now, as I know in a year I would not want photographic evidence once I start working on my truck!
 
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I suspect most photo's are just after completion. Paint is cheap and easy to redo as needed. I would take pictures of my garage now, as I know in a year I would not want photographic evidence once I start working on my truck!

Please dont say the drool worthy garages are an impossible fantasy. The problem with paint is the obvious touch ups. Frequent total repaints are a nonstarter. I want long term "pretty" (i am quoting my bride) so that twice a year it can double for a second use that is of interest to the wife.

On my recent refresh, I used interlocking vinyl tiles on the 1st 4 feet from the floor in my garage. Glued to the sheetrock.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ix4fLjaIkpRcNtFt1

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That looks great! This is a flooring product? Vinyl plank plank with tongue and groove? That looks nearly as good as formica. I would rather glue on tiles than mess with contact adhesive. That is nearly exactly what I had in mind.
 

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Top quality, modern, latex, satin or semigloss paints are very scrubbable, BUT they have to "cure" for at least 30 days. How well they hold up to grease and oil is debatable.

If you want to "go nuts", spray with automotive enamel.
 
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I have seen the Rhino Linings bed lining spray on people have products that are used on exterior walls and now, floors. I have their bed lining on my truck bed and after 15 years I don't think there is a mark on it and it cleans up nicely. Dave R.
 
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I have seen the Rhino Linings bed lining spray on people have products that are used on exterior walls and now, floors. I have their bed lining on my truck bed and after 15 years I don't think there is a mark on it and it cleans up nicely. Dave R.

Yes, I looked at that and the liquid vinyl stuff. I can buy porcelain tile installed for dramatically less money.

Looking back, most of the wall messes were from bulk products knocked off from a height or the leaf blower finding somebody's forgotten sugary drink or coffee cup. Not that I need one, but another reason to eliminate clutter and limit access to the space. The really nasty messes are mostly limited to the floor and items on the floor.

I am planning on a light or medium gray epoxy floor and the wall in a two tone grayish solid or pattern ( smooth or hint of texture preferred ). Maybe a four inch red or blue stripe of paint or vinyl tape to repeat toolbox or lift color. White ceiling.

I foster little kids, mostly babies to eight yo. I really do know how well good latex paint will scrub up. I would like to find something a bit better.
 

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Yes, I looked at that and the liquid vinyl stuff. I can buy porcelain tile installed for dramatically less money.

Porcelain tile is great ... except for the grout ! Unless sealed (and resealed) it will mold and/or absorb oil/grease. You can get the mold out with chlorine cleanser. Not sure about the oil/grease.


Segue - 75-150 years ago, rich people with large estates and horse barn used porcelain tile on the walls in the barns because you could easily wash and rinse them.
 

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Please dont say the drool worthy garages are an impossible fantasy. The problem with paint is the obvious touch ups. Frequent total repaints are a nonstarter. I want long term "pretty" (i am quoting my bride) so that twice a year it can double for a second use that is of interest to the wife.



That looks great! This is a flooring product? Vinyl plank plank with tongue and groove? That looks nearly as good as formica. I would rather glue on tiles than mess with contact adhesive. That is nearly exactly what I had in mind.


Yes, yes & yes. The best part is that you can choose from hundreds of motifs/colours!
 
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Porcelain tile is great ... except for the grout ! Unless sealed (and resealed) it will mold and/or absorb oil/grease. You can get the mold out with chlorine cleanser. Not sure about the oil/grease.


Segue - 75-150 years ago, rich people with large estates and horse barn used porcelain tile on the walls in the barns because you could easily wash and rinse them.

I have to pick out grease colored grout.

I didnt know the historical horse info. I know butchers used to use brick flooring because you wouldnt slip in the blood and guts. Today's code requires a thick trowled on plastic goop to cover the brick and make it all cleanable.
 

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>I never, never would have considered this stuff. Dry erase, really?

We used a sheet to revamp a dry erase board at work. It's passable, more or less. Not ideal but it does work well enough. Bit hard to clean and still may leave shadows.
 

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I used sheet metal on the lower 4 feet and on one wall up to 9'. More for grinder sparks than fluids/spill scrubability (is that even a word)
Downside is that you can't just patch a hole to move a beer sign. Any special material will have this vs drywall/paint
 
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I used sheet metal on the lower 4 feet and on one wall up to 9'. More for grinder sparks than fluids/spill scrubability (is that even a word)
Downside is that you can't just patch a hole to move a beer sign. Any special material will have this vs drywall/paint

I've been inside enough metal boxes for one lifetime. Yes, that is drywall's super power. I forgot to consider that. Lord knows, as a renter I patched enough drywall.
 

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A residential garage, I imagine, would never really get super dirty. The occasional repair/lube job ain't gonna muck it up too bad.

I imagine just a mild soap solution and a sponge would get it clean again just like in your house.
 
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A residential garage, I imagine, would never really get super dirty. The occasional repair/lube job ain't gonna muck it up too bad.

I imagine just a mild soap solution and a sponge would get it clean again just like in your house.

Mmm OK, well, I'm not going to have one of those. I have a Bobcat, salvage components off of auction finds and military surplus, build things out of epoxy glass or CF, forge steel, plan on getting another hydraulic forge or maybe an airhammer, build towers or trailers and who knows what else I may tackle.

I ve had hydraulic hoses fail and drench everthing. I have walked into shops and found paint splatters all over toolboxes and wall but nobody knows how it got there. I have blown forgotten drinks all over stuff with a leafblower. Ive had two employees drive separately into a parked building.

Stuff happens. Life is messy. I dont plan for best case.

Plus, I havent prioritized or worked a firm budget. What ifs are cheaper than concrete.
 

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Ok, so I went with the PVC trim and then bought one 4x8 1/2” thick sheet of black pvc. Here’s how it turned out...I still have some work to do, fill holes, etc... but after caulking it to the wall and floor it makes a nice waterproof seal and it will never rot.


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PVC sheets, formica, LVP, and plain old sheetrock are the most promising so far. Talking and planning for a while may be a big advantage.
 

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One more shot from by my hose and workbench. Never mind that O have to finish mudding and painting by my workbench...

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I have to pick out grease colored grout.

I didnt know the historical horse info. I know butchers used to use brick flooring because you wouldnt slip in the blood and guts. Today's code requires a thick trowled on plastic goop to cover the brick and make it all cleanable.

The old butchers shops predominantly had oak floors and threw sawdust on them to make it less slippery and to absorb blood and stuff. Wood has a natural disinfectant in it to stem bacterial growth, the reason they use butcher block cutting boards and utensils also.


I have the tile board/acrylic coated hardboard panels with the plastic divider and edging strips in my garage. It isn't a fancy wall treatment but it's oil and waterproof up to a point and cheap . The only problem is if you nick and penetrate the surface the moisture can get to the hardboard and will swell it up at the surface break.

They used baked on porcelain steel panels in and out at a lot of service places. I did one that had 2' x 2' x 1/2" black glass panels covering all the walls, a bear to get off and each one weighed a ton. A black tar mastic stuck them to the brick and you needed a hammer and chisel to break them free, very few came off in one piece.
 
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