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ChaksQ

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Great transformation on the space thus far. Looking forward to seeing the eventual apartment remodel.
 
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dittle fart around

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It will look much better when the new windows go in.

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Dude I want your old windows!!!

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View media item 76819This is a stained glass manufacturer in Portland. When a window broke they replaced it with the salvaged stained glass.

View media item 76817I worked at Mare Island the oldest dry docks on the west coast. All the buildings had steel sash swing out windows. Most of the buildings were for the build up for World War II. The first drydock was built in the 1800's.
 

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Another "just curious" question. Why didn't you install the electrical wiring and fixtures in the ceiling before painting? Thanks!
 
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slodat

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Hell of a change Steven. Great job.

Thank you!


Just curious why you didn't tape and mud the joints on the ceiling. Would have given a much nicer finished look.

It came down to a time/cost/value proposition. I know I don’t know how to do the mud and tape worth a ****, contractors are booked solid with ever rising rates and this is an enormous improvement over what was there. 1800 sq ft of ceiling is a lot of mud, tape, sand, repeat for this guys shoulders. Truth be told we all agree it would look better if it were.

Another "just curious" question. Why didn't you install the electrical wiring and fixtures in the ceiling before painting? Thanks!

There’s no crawl space or available room for access above the ceiling the way this old building was put together. All electrical will be in conduit.
 
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Whoa now, did I just read where you said "your wife"? As I recall you weren't married. Did you recently get married? Congrats if so.
The place is looking real good with that fresh paint. Hopefully you will still have plenty of QST now that you're married. :lol:

Jay
 
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Great transformation on the space thus far. Looking forward to seeing the eventual apartment remodel.

Thank you for the encouragement. This is a long haul project. Apartment is a ways out at this point.

Dude I want your old windows!!

I'm pretty sure these windows will be junk by the time I get them out of the openings. If they keep their shape I'll set them aside for you.

I originally had orders to the Richard B. Russell out of MI and was rerouted to a Trident out of Bangor at the last minute because the CO insisted on more electricians prior to the next patrol. Worked out well for me. I did a house hunting trip to Mare Island and got to check things on an unclass tour. Cool ****. I'll always wonder how that would have been.

Whoa now, did I just read where you said "your wife"? As I recall you weren't married. Did you recently get married? Congrats if so.
The place is looking real good with that fresh paint. Hopefully you will still have plenty of QST now that you're married. :lol:

Jay

I did and I did. Thank you! I'm getting some shop time in. ;)
 

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Steven , I love following along on your journey. Congrats on the marriage. Wishing you and your wife many happy years together.

Ron
 
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A buddy helped me load the furnace on the drywall lift. This made short work of getting it back in position. Temporary connected to power with the existing romex. Will run conduit next. Nice to have the heater on the way to installed.

The Ecobee thermostat is great for (remote) controlling this old electric furnace.

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IH8Z28S

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Curious why you removed the framing, would have been better off insulating it and using all the chip board you removed for the walls, your heat bill is going to go up.
 
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slodat

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There were two ceilings. The lower ceiling was supported by the poorly executed stud walls. I wanted to get down to a good base to build from, so I went down to the concrete block. This also resulted in completely replacing the ceiling. I'm not concerned about the heating bill. The new windows will probably make a bigger improvement than any loss I may see. The ceiling has a lot more insulation than it did before and I feel that will also be an overall gain. I like how the building is starting to look inside and it's going to get a lot better.

I appreciate the comments and questions. Keeps me thinking.

It's really nice having the heat going.
 

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Curious why you removed the framing, would have been better off insulating it and using all the chip board you removed for the walls, your heat bill is going to go up.

He lives in an area where the electricity is the cheapest in the nation. I have a 3000 sq. ft. house, forced air and heat, all electric appliances, no gas. Last month was $35.00.
My shop is 3200 sq. ft., 14' ceilings, forced air and heat, pool pump going 24/7. Last month was $53.00.
I just installed a new HVAC system with heat pump in the shop. Curious to see the difference. The old heater was a salvaged unit that was 50 years old so I'm pretty sure the new is much more efficient.
 
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Novamania hit the nail on the head.. our electric rates are the lowest out there. I chose a clean looking space over working with the scabbed in **** that was there when I bought it.

When do we get to see pics of the basement? :)

Apartment came with tenants. It won't be remodeled anytime soon.
 

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What a transformation so far. I really enjoy the renovations on old buildings and applaud you for keeping the period look as much as possible.

How is the basement apartment accessed? Outside entry or through the shop?

Subbed for the updates.
 

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Wonderful results!

Check with your local PUD prior to adding “any” device that aids in energy conservation. Chances are they will or can provide some sort of cost savings to you for the effort.
 
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Apartment is a daylight walk up from the side.

My PUD’s incentives only apply to residences last I checked. I doubt they’ll give incentives for a garage space. I live in the land of cheap, clean hydropower.
 
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Dude I want your old windows!!!

View media item 71004These hang on my fence.

View media item 76819This is a stained glass manufacturer in Portland. When a window broke they replaced it with the salvaged stained glass.

View media item 76817I worked at Mare Island the oldest dry docks on the west coast. All the buildings had steel sash swing out windows. Most of the buildings were for the build up for World War II. The first drydock was built in the 1800's.

That's a cool story. Those metal sash windows really look good in a big block building. Hate to say it but vinyl does not look as good and will not last nearly as long.
 
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slodat

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That's a cool story. Those metal sash windows really look good in a big block building. Hate to say it but vinyl does not look as good and will not last nearly as long.


The metal sash windows look a LOT better. I had originally planned on keeping them.. Neighboring property has a continuous row of overgrown trees just outside those windows. This is a haven for all sorts of insects. They are able to get through these old windows. The existing windows would need to be completely rebuilt and there’s no provision for screens. This is why I went with a modern window. And, they will help with heat retention.
 
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Making progress on the lighting. All four rows are buttoned up on the painted end of the building.

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It’s sure nice having the heat in here.
 

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Just read through the whole thread. Nice job :thumbup: It is turning into a really cool space. Way to have the vision!
 

tbecktold

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I've followed your work shop progress since the beginning and really appreciate your attention to detail and your execution. This is my personal dream however, so I will be poring over this MANY times as you progress, and am really looking forward to seeing how you set it up!!
 
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slodat

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Been working on the building lately. Currently moving everything to the painted end so I can get the other end prepped and painted. I’m really happy with how well the space is cleaning up.

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xtremek

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Looks pretty dang good. Where are you and the Missus living now? Isn't this place occupied by tenants? Any plans to move in here?
 
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