ebay find

[krusty the clown]

found these on ebay and bought them. i can't find a date code, can anybody give me an approximate date?

 

[MAD]

Are they 1/4" or 9/32" drive?

 

[bmwpower]

50's....maybe.

 

[wilbilt]

The logo looks to be pre-war, and the plastic handle predates the Octo-Grip. 1935?

 

[krusty the clown]

Are they 1/4" or 9/32" drive?

they are 1/4". the snappy guy thought maybe 40's due to the logo but i was thinking 50's myself. i wonder if there is a list of logo's and the dates they were used?

 

[Elroy]

Elroy suggests that you might check here:

http://collectingsnapon.com/Site/Home-1.html

 

[MAD]

Elroy suggests that you might check here:

http://collectingsnapon.com/Site/Home-1.html

beat me to it- here is the link to the 1/4" drive stuff.

http://collectingsnapon.com/Site/14drivesets-697.html

 

[krusty the clown]

thanks guys........it look like a 1944 set. i guess it may have been a better find than i thought though. according to that site the tm series 1/4" drive wasn't available till 46 even though it clealy is a tm series 1/4" set with date codes e(1944)
and thanks to a quick response from alloy-artifacts confirmed it is a cad plated 1944 set!

 

[bmwpower]

So which is it? My eyes we're going crazy looking at that chart.

bmwpower ponders elroy's return.

 

[wilbilt]

So, does this confirm the amber handle is pre/mid-war and the black Octo-Grip style is post-war?

 

[bmwpower]

thanks guys........it look like a 1944 set. i guess it may have been a better find than i thought though. according to that site the tm series 1/4" drive wasn't available till 46 even though it clealy is a tm series 1/4" set with date codes e(1944)
and thanks to a quick response from alloy-artifacts confirmed it is a cad plated 1944 set!

I was close. To think some guy (or gal) used that thing over 60 years ago...amazing.

 

[Elroy]

Sorry, Next time Elroy will sit out a while longer.
I like that page but he needs to do some more work to it.
Something like the Alloy Artifacts page. That place is great!
Elroy has dated a lot of his older tools using their information.
Elroy would also encourage Krusty to e-mail that guy his snap-on photos so he can build the site up. That 1/4" box is neat.

 

[krusty the clown]

So, does this confirm the amber handle is pre/mid-war and the black Octo-Grip style is post-war?

it confirms that the hanle i have was made in 1944. the patent for the octo-gripis dated 1945. according to the snap on collectors sire the robo grip was introduced in 1955 so

 

[bmwpower]

Sorry, Next time Elroy will sit out a while longer.
I like that page but he needs to do some more work to it.
Something like the Alloy Artifacts page. That place is great!
Elroy has dated a lot of his older tools using their information.
Elroy would also encourage Krusty to e-mail that guy his snap-on photos so he can build the site up. That 1/4" box is neat.

On the contrary, Elroy needs to come by more often.

 

[krusty the clown]

Sorry, Next time Elroy will sit out a while longer.
I like that page but he needs to do some more work to it.
Something like the Alloy Artifacts page. That place is great!
Elroy has dated a lot of his older tools using their information.
Elroy would also encourage Krusty to e-mail that guy his snap-on photos so he can build the site up. That 1/4" box is neat.

already done

 

[krusty the clown]

here's the next one

 

[krusty the clown]

 

[bmwpower]

Is that a slide bar? or a breaker bar? The end looks like a slider...

 

[krusty the clown]

no it's a breaker bar........i think it's a 1926 or 27?

 

[Elroy]

Thanks BMW
Elroy comes by as much as time will allow.
Too bad the ole Carbed board is so slow. Always like pokin Ranger in the ribs.

Elroy likes tools and I get good information here as to what people like and dis-like about certain things. Helps Elroy when he is in the market to expand. But then again a POS is POS.

As of late Elroy has been collecting "old" stuff from Pawn Shops

Picked up a few real nice Herbrand, Fairmont, Vlchek and "War Finish" Plomb last week. Can't ***** when a primo Blackhawk socket cost 25 cents. I get a kick looking at all the broken Chinese **** diggin for that jewel.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Are you sure it is 1/4 inch and not 9/32nds? I bought a set from a fellow board member here awhile back. The set you have displayed was sure a slam dunk for a war years set with that dusty cad plate look. I am surprised it does not have a E or a G on any of the tools, generally most that look like that that I have ever found have the G or E. Not meaning to be rude but do you mind telling what you paid for that set?

 

[Uncle Buck]

Thanks BMW
Elroy comes by as much as time will allow.
Too bad the ole Carbed board is so slow. Always like pokin Ranger in the ribs.

Elroy likes tools and I get good information here as to what people like and dis-like about certain things. Helps Elroy when he is in the market to expand. But then again a POS is POS.

As of late Elroy has been collecting "old" stuff from Pawn Shops

Picked up a few real nice Herbrand, Fairmont, Vlchek and "War Finish" Plomb last week. Can't ***** when a primo Blackhawk socket cost 25 cents. I get a kick looking at all the broken Chinese **** diggin for that jewel.

Always glad to see you add your 2 bits Elroy! BTW we are kindrid spirits, I too collect old Plomb and stuff like that set. Take care and don't be gone so long next time!

 

[krusty the clown]

Are you sure it is 1/4 inch and not 9/32nds? I bought a set from a fellow board member here awhile back. The set you have displayed was sure a slam dunk for a war years set with that dusty cad plate look. I am surprised it does not have a E or a G on any of the tools, generally most that look like that that I have ever found have the G or E. Not meaning to be rude but do you mind telling what you paid for that set?

yes it is definatly 1/4" drive and has an E date code on every tool. i gave $40 for it, i hope i didn't pay too much. next question, does your set have a ratchet? and are the sockets complete, it goes from 3/16 to 7/16?

 

[Uncle Buck]

yes it is definatly 1/4" drive and has an E date code on every tool. i gave $40 for it, i hope i didn't pay too much. next question, does your set have a ratchet? and are the sockets complete, it goes from 3/16 to 7/16?

This should take you there. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11024

I just love this little box of old Snappy tools; in fact I would say it is the centerpiece of my little collection of antique mechanics tools!

Check the pics and see for yourself.

 

[MAD]

This past summer I picked up a cool old tool box loaded with high quality tools at a yard sale for forty bucks. One of the goodies inside was a 9/32" drive Snap-on set consisting of a Midget M-70 ratchet, extension, and seven sockets. They are not date coded but all have the S/O overstrike mark that is described on the Alloy Artifacts site as being on early pre-date coded sockets. These however, look like the newer (1930s/1940s) style sockets. The finish on them is dull accept for one bright shinny socket that I suspect was protected from oxidation by a thick layer of grease. I don't think this one bright finish socket was a replacement since all of the markings are identical to the others. There was no cool metal box like the sets you guys have though. Interestingly, the guts from my FM-70 mini 3/8" drive ratchet I bought off the truck in the mid-late 1980s fit right in to the old ratchet and worked fine. Also in with them was an interesting S/O 1/4" drive flex handle. The drive end is rotated 45 degrees from the typical orientation. At first I thouht it had twisted. I guess if you did not have a ratchet this configuration of the square drive could help in a tight spot if you were using a six point socket.

Correction: I dug out the 9/32" set and the date code on them appears to be the one for 1942.

 

[wrenchr]

This is from the early to mid 1930's, It might even be older. The logo is why I can tell. snap/on.

 

[MAD]

This is from the early to mid 1930's, It might even be older. The logo is why I can tell. snap/on.

From the Alloy Artifacts site:

Snap-On remained in Milwaukee until 1930 but then moved its operations to Kenosha, WI, so the presence of "Milwaukee" on a tool is a reliable indication of manufacture in or before 1930.