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The part number listed is also a Neiko number. this is where you must do your homework before buying......check the part numbers.

It could be an honest mistake considering the seller has a 99.8% positive rating with almost 5500 transactions.

OP: did you e-mail the seller about their mistake in the title?
 

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Sellers on Ebay list multiple manufacturers in their listing so it appears when buyers do searches.
 

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If it says Neiko in the title, only the gullible/greedy would think they're getting otherwise.


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One of the ads has Wright in the title and twice more in the description. The only place it says Neiko is under brand in the details. I could easily see someone thinking they are getting Wright.
 
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Report item for keyword spamming (Listing practices --> Search and browse manipulation --> Keyword spamming).

It's a violation of ebay terms. If more people reported keyword spamming, more sellers doing it would get banned.
 

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If it says Neiko in the title, only the gullible/greedy would think they're getting otherwise.

The brand WRIGHT is used in the title and the item description in large font. The true brand, Neiko, only shows up in the fine print of the item specifics---purposely misleading.

That said, I think a buyer would have a case for a refund via ebay due to way it was listed. They tend to favor the buyer in most every instance.
 

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Sellers on Ebay list multiple manufacturers in their listing so it appears when buyers do searches.

Which is against eBay's seller's rules. I report it every time I see it because I don't want "Craftsman- Snap On Equivalent!!!" showing up every time I search for Snap On. If I wanted to look for craftsman, I would have typed that into the search box.
 

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Which is against eBay's seller's rules. I report it every time I see it because I don't want "Craftsman- Snap On Equivalent!!!" showing up every time I search for Snap On. If I wanted to look for craftsman, I would have typed that into the search box.

Tired of titles describing how something will "Snap on" to it, or tool items "for the Craftsman."
 

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Cut the guy some slack. He's sold 5000+ items and has a 99.8% FB rating. He also has over 10,000 other items listed.

Guess what. Mistakes happen!!

Why would the seller want to invite a SNAD claim where they have to pay the buyers return shipping and face a negative feedback and loss of their Ebay discount program?
 

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Cut the guy some slack. He's sold 5000+ items and has a 99.8% FB rating. He also has over 10,000 other items listed.

Guess what. Mistakes happen!!

Why would the seller want to invite a SNAD claim where they have to pay the buyers return shipping and face a negative feedback and loss of their Ebay discount program?

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THIS!!!!

Has anyone e-mailed the seller and explained his mistake? I've done it before and the seller thanks me for the error and fixes the auction.
 

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Report item for keyword spamming (Listing practices --> Search and browse manipulation --> Keyword spamming).

It's a violation of ebay terms. If more people reported keyword spamming, more sellers doing it would get banned.

Why not contact the seller first?

As far as your violation and getting the seller banned, is every single item he listed misleading? Is all his Tekton items mid-labeled as well? Or maybe this is an honest mistake?
 

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-1 on cutting the seller some slack. Should we send the seller some flowers, too?

These are stupid mistakes (if they're even a mistake at all, which I highly doubt) and eBay has a mechanism to report them, so they should be reported. They're in clear violation of listing policies.
 

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-1 on cutting the seller some slack. Should we send the seller some flowers, too?

These are stupid mistakes (if they're even a mistake at all, which I highly doubt) and eBay has a mechanism to report them, so they should be reported. They're in clear violation of listing policies.

Why not contact the seller first? Is it that hard to do?
 

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Why not post the listing correctly in the first place? Is it that hard to do?

So you're perfect and have never made a mistake that you later had to correct?

Do you ever buy from Amazon? They also make mistakes.

I've made errors and have always appreciated someone bringing it to my attention so I could quickly correct it. I guess I'm a "scumbag" too.

I've also notified sellers when they make mistakes and in all cases they've been very appreciative.
 

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I've seen something similar on a DMM that was listed as a Fluke. I let the seller know and they promptly changed it. Mistakes happen.
 
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So you're perfect and have never made a mistake that you later had to correct?

I don't recall making that claim.

Do you ever buy from Amazon? They also make mistakes.

Sure. Mistakes happen. But, I have yet to see an Amazon seller attempt to sell one brand under another brand. I see it on eBay all the time. If I did see it on Amazon, I'd report it, too.

I've made errors and have always appreciated someone bringing it to my attention so I could quickly correct it. I guess I'm a "scumbag" too.

I didn't use that term, but if you feel comfortable applying it to yourself, you do you.

I've also notified sellers when they make mistakes and in all cases they've been very appreciative.

I'm quite happy for you. Merry Christmas!
 

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Report item for keyword spamming (Listing practices --> Search and browse manipulation --> Keyword spamming).

It's a violation of ebay terms. If more people reported keyword spamming, more sellers doing it would get banned.

-1 on cutting the seller some slack. Should we send the seller some flowers, too?

These are stupid mistakes (if they're even a mistake at all, which I highly doubt) and eBay has a mechanism to report them, so they should be reported. They're in clear violation of listing policies.

Why not post the listing correctly in the first place? Is it that hard to do?


So this is going to seem like I am picking on you, but your comments make my point the best.

Had this listing been for a Neiko Tool set, but really been a Snap On set at Neiko prices would you feel any different? Or would you just buy it or post it on the hot deals thread?

As I said, please do not think I am directly picking on you. :lol_hitti
 

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Maybe someone wrote to the seller, because that item is no longer available.

I guess if it was a scam or the seller was truly a scumbag, they wouldn't have pulled it; now would they?

It's nice to see how many people on this site never make mistakes. :thumbup:

And Strouty, you hit the nail on the head....if that was a Snap On set it would have been a super deal and the buyer would be asking to see if they **** because they bought it so cheap......and people would oblige. But, because it isn't a Wright tool set and rather a cheapie import, people are ready to hang the seller.
 

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Why is anyone sticking up for this jerk? He is knowingly being deceptive. In any kindergarden class you will learn that is wrong. When you are wrong you deserve consequences or correction. Case closed.
 

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I'd just notify eBay and let them deal with it. I've tried notifying sellers of errors or misleading ads in the past and ended up getting snarky replies for my effort.
 
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Well i dont know 100% I admit. Perhaps he lost his glasses and some smudges on the wrenches looked like the word wright, but its a pretty good chance he put it there as a clickbait title. I have not sold anything on ebay, nor bought anything off it because of this kind of ****. I would love to have an online place to get used tools, but these listings just make the whole thing seem like a 3rd world night market.

He is wrong, and should be disciplined or corrected. It appears he was corrected and did the right thing, so good on him.

By the way i have no vested interest in any of this, just annoyed that ebay is what it is.
 

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The seller has removed both items because "the item is no longer available".

You can stop hyperventilating now.

kythri said:
Report item for keyword spamming (Listing practices --> Search and browse manipulation --> Keyword spamming).

There is a very clear distinction between "keyword spamming" and making an error in listing an item, and it's not really that difficult to determine which it is:

Over on the right of the screen, click "See other items".

Does the seller use "keyword spamming" on several items?
If yes, report every damn one of them.
Report them again tomorrow if they're still up.
Report them the next day too if they're still up.
Repeat as necessary until the items are either removed or the seller is banned from Ebay.

If it's just a simple error in listing the item, which I see all the time, it may well be the seller simply doesn't know one brand from the other OR was mislead by something he read/misread/misinterpreted on the web.
When you're dealing with older retired people where 80% of their items are old Hummel figurines or battery-operated reel-to-reel tape recorders, bear in mind that they're not "tool" people - and there are a hell of a lot of Ebay sellers that fit that description.

A good example is the little set of sockets I picked up yesterday, listed as "New Britain" because they looked like a New Britain set he saw on Alloy-Artifacts and assumed they must have been New Britain. I see that kind of stuff all the time.

On the other hand, I've also seen sellers who repeatedly post items stuffing every name of a high-end tool brand into the ad header so that it comes up in search results. Those are the guys you want to report.

Just use your head. Nothing good can come of arguing about it here. Relax.
 

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The OP showed two auctions for these items from two totally different sellers. (bgs finders and super nova buy).

Both sellers used the same image and same erroneous description.

The mosty likely scenario is that wholesaler/distributer to these ebay resellers provided these sellers with erroneous image/ad copy which these sellers simply copied and pasted into their Ebay ads.

It happens all the time. (errors vs intentional deception)
 

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so OP is trying to trash seller on eBay who to me (and others) who made an honest mistake... or is there a purpose to this thread that I miss?

Wondering if OP is a seller who compete with these sellers?
 
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Sellers do have to keyword spam just a bit sometimes. They're under assault from the sponsored Chinese vendors that claim they're in the US. Ebay encourages it. They are quite corrupt as an entity, and sellers are leaving.

As a result, some items have to include other words, or they will simply never sell. Some of these guys used to be 100% by the book, but they had to stretch a bit to stay in business at all.

As an example, try to sell a used car. You're not allowed to let an interested party see it in person until they commit to buy. Now, they can back out later, but that quite often immediately kills the sale, as they don't trust you.

Dealerships, however, are allowed all the contact they want, and screw people over all the time, as well as trading back and forth to increase their feedback. Why? Ebay encourages it.

So, yup. I flag their listings whenever I see the first mention of their dealership's name. I'm on the war path with Ebay right now. They're pushing corrupt organizations onto their corrupt platform, and sellers are either having to compromise their personal values or be left to rot.

This is more common with some categories than others, and tools are one of them.

So, report the listing, but know inside that he may be doing his best to stay afloat long enough to clear his inventory.

Real sellers are just trying to survive right now. Ebay, as a small time operation for people who just want to buy and sell, is dead. You just need to pay attention and see what's happening.

So again, stop griping and report the listings. It's the only way to send the message. Once a listing is reported, you have absolutely nothing more to discuss.

Same thread popping up nearly weekly, filled with uneducated comments. Stop doing that and start pushing back. Ebay is responsible for dragging in the scammers and keeping them operational.
 

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That’s why I rarely deal with small time sellers on eBay anymore.

Amazon seems to have higher standards, ie less deceptive ad copy than eBay.

That’s really what this is....deceptive ad copy.
 

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That’s why I rarely deal with small time sellers on eBay anymore.

Amazon seems to have higher standards, ie less deceptive ad copy than eBay.

That’s really what this is....deceptive ad copy.

Those small time sellers are the very people you should be buying from first, given an option.
 

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^ Those small-time sellers are the ones that can't tell a 1940's vintage 3-piece set of Indestro double-end box wrenches (with the "Klip-Tite" holder) from their elbow and sell them for $8.00 including shipping on Ebay. :lol:

So please... do me a favor and avoid them. Reduces the competition for me. :thumbup:
 
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