Electric Boiler ?

[dldude]

Had a guy come by to help finish plumbing floor heat. He is saying electric boiler install won't pass inspection because I don't have a disconnect at boiler. I ran 4-3 romex from 70 amp breaker directly to boiler. I don't have disconnect on my Geo heat pump in house. Boiler also has breakers built in.

 

[Aceman]

I don't know what NEC cycle you're on, but the 2014 NEC 424.19 requires a lockable disconnecting means. On top of that, there are more often than not, additional boiler codes at the state and local level that must be followed as well.

Your best bet is to contact the person who will be inspecting the boiler and get their input as to what is required.

 

[theoldwizard1]

True for commercial installation. Not sure about residential.

 

[R.Anderson]

Even if it was not required you should have one, unless your panel was in the same room and insight of the boiler. I think the built in breakers would not count, the disconnect is for safe service and replacement of the boiler.

 

[dldude]

Yes my sub panel is in same room and in sight of the boiler.

 

[alfredeneuman]

Then just installing a lockout device for the breaker serving the boiler should suffice.

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Yes my sub panel is in same room and in sight of the boiler.

How far away is it?

 

[CJ7VFR]

Had a guy come by to help finish plumbing floor heat. He is saying electric boiler install won't pass inspection because I don't have a disconnect at boiler. I ran 4-3 romex from 70 amp breaker directly to boiler. I don't have disconnect on my Geo heat pump in house. Boiler also has breakers built in.

The old boiler (for my homes heat and hot water) I had in my basement never had a disconnect switch right at the boiler itself. It had a switch, with one of those red warning wall plates installed in my basement stairwell for the disconnect.

Every time someone from the oil company I use to service the boiler came over to do something, the first thing they asked when they got to the boiler was where is the disconnect, and why isn't there one right here? Once I showed them where it was on the stairwell, or that they could just flip the boilers breaker off at the panel, which was less than 10 feet away, they were good to go.

Last December we had to have a new boiler put in because the old one died, and they said they had to install a disconnect right at the boiler in order for it to pass inspection, even though I still had the switch with the red wall plate installed on the basement stairwell.

I guess with anything newly installed after 2014, it has to meet that new NEC code for having a disconnect right at the boiler.

As others have said, it can't hurt to put one there if you can if you might fail your inspection without it.

Jim

 

[sberry]

I doubt you need a lockout in a residence with panel in the same room.

 

[gregtwojeeps]

Rather than taking a chance on paying two inspection fees and as mentioned earlier, one may want to just give the inspector's office a call to verify. I would be concerned about the location of that short discharge pipe from the PRV also, if I am seeing it correctly. JMO.

 

[tfi racing]

That cord running to the pump and the low voltage switch hanging there won't pass either...

 

[CJ7VFR]

I doubt you need a lockout in a residence with panel in the same room.

I think they are just looking for a simple switch to shut off power at the boiler. It might be some type of code thing now.

I agree with greg. Call and find out just exactly what it is they require for your installation. This will avoid having to do things twice if something failed inspection and you had to have it re-inspected.

Jim