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Electric heater worth while ?

Peter Hightower

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Has anyone in southern Ontario installed an electric garage heater and found it helpful and somewhat cost effective ? I think a natural gas heater plus the install price would be greater than an electrician running 240 line and hooking up a $300 mastercraft heater. Or am I way off ?
Thanks for any info.
 
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tedo2007

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I think operating costs on electric would be higher depending on where you live


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Hollywood D

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Depends how much it will cost to run a gas line. For me it was going to be $5k just to run the line. So I went with electric.
 

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I get $0.30/hr at $20/KWH for a 1500W heater. So if you run it 100% of the time for 5 months that would be just over $1000.
 

yeldogt

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All dependent on the cost of the electric. It's great fast heat -- have to calculate using your local costs for electric and gas.

I use electric at one of my spaces as a supplemental boast -- the gas is sized mostly to maintain. If I know I will be away for two weeks I turn it down a bit -- the electric allows me to warm it up faster and still have the proper size gas heater for comfort and efficiencies. Electric units are inexpensive and easy to install ... no upkeep cost
 

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My situation is similar. Electric is the only energy source at our shop.

Electric will work and work well. We need to know the size of your area that needs heat and the ceiling height. Then we need to know the wattage or btu output of your heater of choice.

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p_mori7

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I have a 240V - 5000W Hanging shop heater.

My garage is 16x30. with 10' cielings.

I keep the garage at 50*, unless I am working in it, then I will bring it up to 65 or 70.

I heat it from November to April.

Our electric rates here in Quebec are significantly lower than Ontario, average per month would be about $50.

I already had 240V and 100A in the shop.

I am well insulated.

I have a fan mounted about 12" below the ceiling at the back of the garage, angled downwards and towards the garage door, running 24/7 to circulate the air properly.

I got the heater at Rona for about $100


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End result is...

If you plan on heating it 24/7 for all the winter months, , you are almost in all areas better off $ wise w Gas.

If you heat it only occasionally, electric may be the better choice overall.

Marc
 

Boilerhouse

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Has anyone in southern Ontario installed an electric garage heater and found it helpful and somewhat cost effective ? I think a natural gas heater plus the install price would be greater than an electrician running 240 line and hooking up a $300 mastercraft heater. Or am I way off ?
Thanks for any info.

I ran a 5000W construction heater on occasion one winter about 15 years ago. As I recall, it was borderline, but did the job. Shop is 24x30. Insulation is 6 in walls and 12 in ceiling. I ran it only on milder days - i.e. days of -5 C or warmer. It is only 20,000 BTU/Hr equivalent and the shop was cold each morning. I would not run it on a -20 day.
If you go that route, expect a 5000W heater to run flat out, 8 hours + a couple hours before to get some of the chill off. If weekends only, your electric bill will likely increase by about $100 a month. (With the caveat that I do not know your shop size, insulation levels or how well it is sealed) If you plan on more hours of heat, or more days in the shop each week, expect that increase to raise proportionally.
My wild guess is that with natural gas, for $100/month you could have a warm shop all winter. Install price, again wild guess, $5000.
 
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Peter Hightower

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Thanks all for the info. I have a job quote Thursday for electrical. It’s a 3 car garage, walls insulated r12,vap. Barrier and Osb over that. Not sure what to do about ceiling.
Was going to tack up some 4x8 ridged pink insulation on the horizontal ceiling joists and leave the above cathedral part open. Not sure if that will help keep any heat in or not.
 

yeldogt

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Thanks all for the info. I have a job quote Thursday for electrical. It’s a 3 car garage, walls insulated r12,vap. Barrier and Osb over that. Not sure what to do about ceiling.
Was going to tack up some 4x8 ridged pink insulation on the horizontal ceiling joists and leave the above cathedral part open. Not sure if that will help keep any heat in or not.

So .. no insulation in the roof -- Just the walls ? What's your electric rate ?

My place in NYC is a bit bigger than 3 car -- can be $200+ ... but my electric is .20+
 

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Insulated ceiling will be a huge factor in sizing of your heater and costs. I would honestly start by insulating and putting drywall on the ceiling, then have a heater installed. I am in Wisconsin and am planning on doing an electric heater, based on my minimal weekend and super cold nights use.
 

rburke65

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The only factor we need to know, from all the responses, is....What do you pay per KWH. I heat mine for $200.......I spent $1000 last year.....I keep the stat at 60* ......don’t mean a thing. How much per KWH.?
 

mm08822

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His overall costs will be determined by total installation cost + cost/kwh * kwh/month. This amount will continue to increase every month of usage. Knowing only the cost/kwh means nothing without a consumption amount. Setpoint, insulation levels, time on vs. time off, all effect consumption.

Likewise, he needs to know the costs for gas installation and cost/kbtu.

Eventually, the total accumulated cost of one system will exceed the other. Now it becomes a question of how long he will be there to operate it.
 
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