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SuzukiGS750EZ

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Hey guys. What’s recommended for an electric screwdriver closer to screwdriver form than a driver. I have the Milwaukee installation driver but would like a straight electric screwdriver.
 
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I think the Vessel looks pretty cool - I don't have one though, so I'm not endorsing it.

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i hear good things about the Dewalt gyrosscopic driver too. Here's an article about it.

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What I actually have is the Dremel (also sold under Bosch branding):
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Ignore Dremel's description of it having "power settings" - what they actually mean is that it has a six-position clutch. It works and it's useful. It's also push-to-go or button activated. Both work well.

What it doesn't have is any speed control. that may or may not matter to you. E.g. if you have lots of spinning to do, you might want something faster to run down the fastener in a hurry. If you're working on very small an delicate screws, the clutch might not be fine enough to compensate for the single-speed drive. Work somewhere in the middle and you don't really miss a speed setting.

It's reasonably torquey too - certainly no wrist-breaker, but enough that your screws will actually be driven.
 

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I've used the Dewalt and bought one for my son. I'm old school and prefer the pistol grip with trigger but the gyro worked amazingly well. Was using it on a project that had a lot of network hardware that needed to be removed and installed.
 
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The gyro style straight/45° was what I was trying to stay away from. But I’d like something semi torquey. I’d mostly use it on electrical stuff, toys and electronics. Maybe firearms too.
 

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There are really two types: those that look like screwdrivers and those that are "inspired by" the Panasonic cordless screwdriver. The former would be like the Vessel or Dremel shown above. For household use, I have had good luck with this Kobalt unit:


For the latter, Panasonic is still the gold standard IMO. Dewalt, Makita, Milwaukee, and Metabo HPT all offer similar as well. The clutch is perfect for situations where torque is a concern. I have this Metabo unit and use it heavily on car interiors and the like:

 

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The gyro style straight/45° was what I was trying to stay away from. But I’d like something semi torquey. I’d mostly use it on electrical stuff, toys and electronics. Maybe firearms too.

I know you want straight, but the DCF601 is absolutely awesome for that type of work.
 

pancholasvegas

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I have the electric Vessel that was shown earlier in the thread and I love it for around the house use. Been putting together a lot of new-child items (Crib, changing table, etc.) and used only the Vessel for everything. Perfect for the work you are looking to achieve.
 

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The Torque Test Channel tested these a few months ago, and the DeWalt came in first. And a cheapie from Amazon came in a close second...

FWIW. YMMV. Etc.

 

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I have a Craftsman Gyro screwdriver, it's beyond awesome. I can't imagine going back to a screwdriver that didn't have such a fine level of speed control.
 

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I think the Vessel looks pretty cool - I don't have one though, so I'm not endorsing it.

220usb1u9.jpg

i hear good things about the Dewalt gyrosscopic driver too. Here's an article about it.

ic-Cordless-Screwdriver-Pivoting-2-Position-Handle.jpg

What I actually have is the Dremel (also sold under Bosch branding):
hses-01-209522-png-16-9-244707_w_1600_h_800.png

Ignore Dremel's description of it having "power settings" - what they actually mean is that it has a six-position clutch. It works and it's useful. It's also push-to-go or button activated. Both work well.

What it doesn't have is any speed control. that may or may not matter to you. E.g. if you have lots of spinning to do, you might want something faster to run down the fastener in a hurry. If you're working on very small an delicate screws, the clutch might not be fine enough to compensate for the single-speed drive. Work somewhere in the middle and you don't really miss a speed setting.

It's reasonably torquey too - certainly no wrist-breaker, but enough that your screws will actually be driven.
dewalt FTW. the gyro screwdriver is fantastic for one handed operation (like if you're holding something heavy while you screw it down).
 

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My wife wanted a cordless screwdriver for the house. I didn't want another battery system.

We got the Vessel Electric Ball Plus 220USB-P1. USB-C rechargeable. Standard 1/4" bits.

It works on anything in the house she's thrown at it.

But...it's not yellow, or blue, or red, or teal, or green.

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I have the Milwaukee (Panasonic type) in Li-Ion. Use to have the NiCd type but the batteries aren't available from Milwaukee anymore and the Li-Ion is better anyway. I also have the DeWalt gyroscopic and I don't like it as much as the Milwaukee.
 

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I have the Milwaukee (Panasonic type) in Li-Ion. Use to have the NiCd type but the batteries aren't available from Milwaukee anymore and the Li-Ion is better anyway. I also have the DeWalt gyroscopic and I don't like it as much as the Milwaukee.
I have the same Milwaukee driver. Which batteries did you get as a replacement?
 
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u3b3rg33k

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I use the Dewalt at work. It is okay, I don’t like the gyroscope personally as I prefer some sort of trigger.
it has a trigger! (that sets the zero). i can't think of a better screwdriver for work like racking switches.
 

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@u3b3rg33k Funny you mention racking switches as that is part of my job. I use a Milwaukee M12 Impact driver or that M12 Screwdriver.

I just don’t like the gyroscope function. I only use that screwdriver when I have a ton of little screws to take out as I find using that is slightly faster. But for switches, hell no, impact driver or the m12 screwdriver all the way.
 

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@u3b3rg33k Funny you mention racking switches as that is part of my job. I use a Milwaukee M12 Impact driver or that M12 Screwdriver.

I just don’t like the gyroscope function. I only use that screwdriver when I have a ton of little screws to take out as I find using that is slightly faster. But for switches, hell no, impact driver or the m12 screwdriver all the way.
it took me some getting used to but now I can't go back. for anything beefier i use the M18 surge.
 

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I know OP's ordered one, but wanted to throw in another recommendation for the Milwaukee M4. We have a ton of these at work (Cummins assembly line) and they're pretty darned reliable.

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Have one of the old Black and Decker cordless screwdrivers? Convert it to Lithium Ion:

I had one of those years ago that I took the battery out and hard wired it with some alligator clips. Used it a lot on vehicles; it was much faster and much stronger on the car battery. I expected it to burn up quickly but it lasted years and I used it quite a bit!
 

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These are two different tools (although they look very similar) using different voltage batteries. You can't interchange them.
Its a Milwaukee 6546-1 made in Japan (looking for a good replacement battery recommendation).
 

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Its a Milwaukee 6546-1 made in Japan (looking for a good replacement battery recommendation).
That's actually made by Panasonic which private labeled them for Milwaukee. Where you get batteries is a good guess as Panasonic no longer seems to import tools into the United States. You might want to consider MTO battery and see if they can rebuild the batteries you have. Here is a link to that battery. You send yours in and they replace the batteries in your pack and send it back. https://www.mtobattery.com/collecti...1-0100-milwaukee-2-4v-battery-rebuild-service Sad truth is it's time for an upgrade. NiCd is as dead as a dodo bird.
 

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That's actually made by Panasonic which private labeled them for Milwaukee. Where you get batteries is a good guess as Panasonic no longer seems to import tools into the United States. You might want to consider MTO battery and see if they can rebuild the batteries you have. Here is a link to that battery. You send yours in and they replace the batteries in your pack and send it back. https://www.mtobattery.com/collecti...1-0100-milwaukee-2-4v-battery-rebuild-service Sad truth is it's time for an upgrade. NiCd is as dead as a dodo bird.
Might just upgrade. Probably to the new Panasonic model. I'm not sure even if the original packs are rebuilt with newer chemistry cells the charger might not correctly charge them. Thank you for your insight/help.
 

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I just went through this a couple weeks ago. Found the Skil driver at Menards on sale for about $20.
I like it, has decent power and a voltage detector for some wierd reason.
 

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I've had the DeWalt for a few years and love it. The gyroscopic feature works sooo much better than I imagined it could; I thought that it was a gimmick and would barely work, but it's fantastic and does exactly what I want it to- it's like it reads my mind. I bought it specifically for home electrical work, but it sees other uses. They also make a small flashlight that uses the same battery.
 

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Is the Dewalt strong enough to drive small screws into soft woods? Thinking stuff like installing drawer runners in cabinets and hinges
 

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Is the Dewalt strong enough to drive small screws into soft woods? Thinking stuff like installing drawer runners in cabinets and hinges
Yes, it should be strong enough for this purpose. In fact, I just finished driving 1 1/4" drywall screws into 2" by 4".
 
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