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Electrical options for screen porch

jpcjguy

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So finally getting quotes and going to pull the trigger on a screen porch. Basically the same footprint as the patio. pulling up the pavers and going with stamped concrete. Re-use the pavers for a nearby patio for fire pit.
Anyway - will need some electrical for lights, ceiling fan, TV, outlets etc. Currently my panels are in the garage and there is (was) no easy way to run from the panels back into the house. Then I built my detached and that forced me to run conduit out to it. While I was doing that, I ran some extra conduit from the panel to the crawlspace under the house. This should make my life easier to getting additional power to the porch. In the picture of the electrical junction box(not the main house feed) you can see 3 conduits coming out of the bottom. The far right is for the detached, the other 2 are empty which then go under the house and stop. Can use one or both of them. The picture with the red line shows where the conduits go under the house (under the bay window).
In my mind, I feel like it would be easier to run some bigger wire to a small sub panel and the run my smaller circuits from there. The other pictures show where the header for the porch will be (and cover). The picture with red and green squares are option locations for a sub panel. (green is less desirable as I am adding length for no reason.)
Since most of the wiring will be in the ceiling for lights, speakers, fan, etc. (maybe even run some 240v for future radiant heaters?)
Is this a good idea? Complete code no-no? Overcomplicating?
 

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jpcjguy

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Hmmm....so is that a no go? I don't mind going to my my AHJ, but I would like to ideally have some code compliant options (if I truly have any) - in case they rather take the easy road and say "No"....
 

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Fwiw in my screenporch ceiling (conventional shingles roof over it) I used uf and wr outlets with covers. When the inspector came he said regular nmc and outlets would have been fine since it was fully sheltered (wall came down about a foot or so from the ceiling before the screen started).

But it all depends on your area and inspector. I would ask the local buiding/electrical authorities. In most areas they are usually willing to answer brief and easy questions ahead of a project to ensure it is done right.
 

2Rocky

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GFCI covered outlets with covers is what is on my porch and lighting is the same recessed LED's I have in the kitchen and Dining room.

Not sure if the Ceiling fan has to be a different style or construction because of more exposure to the elements.

Wires to the lights came out from the attic and may be the same circuit as my kitchen lights. Pretty easy when they share a wall with interior components.

Your project is bigger than what I did, especially if you do radiant heat. i'm interested to read the responses myself.
 
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