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My 16 year old son is planning on applying to the electrician apprenticeship program after high school. He's 16 now, and in his junior year of high school. I want to start putting together a tool bag with the stuff he is going to need to start out in his career. Thinking about buying a few at a time over the next few years. I know there are a lot of knowledgeable electricians on this site, can anyone give me any recommendations of what to look for in starting a list? Thank you in advance.
 
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There will be a tool list provided by the school. For starters, it's safe to get 9" linemans pliers, 8" diagonal cutters, 8" long nose, two pair of 9-10" Channellock style pliers, 5/16'X6" slotted screwdriver, 1/4" X 4" slotted, #2 Phillips, #1 and 2 Roberson driver, hammer, knife, tape measure. When I started, the company that hired me provided all of the above tools, including a tool pouch and belt. Everything was Klein and within two hours I realized that Klein "channellocks" ****. I hit Walmart on the way home and picked up a couple of Channellock 420's and used those for close to 20 years. I now use 10" Knipex Cobras. For everything else, you can't go wrong with Klein.

EDIT: I left out wire strippers. Those are really a personal preference thing. I like the old school Ideal T-strippers. Others like the curved handles, while others like the multi tools strippers. I started off with a pair of these:


To be honest, they don't do anything well other than cut screws. They do strip, they do cut, and they do crimp, but every single one of those is better accomplished with a different tool. I also lied unintentionally. I didn't have any Robertson screwdrivers when I started, I don't even know if they were a thing. I do use my #2 quite often, but I don't know that I have ever used the #1.
 
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^ Everything sparky said. I still have a pouch, but I carry it everywhere, no belt. I see more tool bags now verses pouches and belts. CLC makes some nice bags. Some tools I prefer Ideal over Klien, but that's just a personal preference.
 

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I prefer Knipex over any other make Channellock included, just my opinion.
 

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You've been given some great advice, the basic tools listed should never change and if you wanted instead of overbuying stuff some cash away now and just stick to getting the basics, then wait til he gets the list of what he actually needs and you'll be able to help him as he goes.

If I were a young man today and starting over, I would be a lineman.
 

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The first tools my electricians use is a hammer and demo bar to destroy everything that's in the way of their work...

Rationally thinking - I think the best thing to do would be to get something nice for yourself and give your son a bunch of hand-me-down tools. Once he gets working and starts earning some money, he's gong to dispose of whatever you give him, anyway. He's going to want to have what all the other cool kids have in their tool belts and/or whatever he picks out after being on the job for a bit.

@mikeb27 - Is your son interested in moving and/or traveling? The military (all branches including the Coast Guard) have great opportunities for the trades right now and (in addition to the record enlistment bonuses people are getting right now) I expect he would get experience and responsibility much faster that route in the current environment.
 
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Rationally thinking - I think the best thing to do would be to get something nice for yourself and give your son a bunch of hand-me-down tools. Once he gets working and starts earning some money, he's gong to dispose of whatever you give him, anyway. He's going to want to have what all the other cool kids have in their tool belts and/or whatever he picks out after being on the job for a bit.
I think hand me downs are about as far as I would go. Let him buy his own tools. He'll be invested in them, literally and figuratively, and he'll know more about what is out there and what he has.

Could try to break the mold and get him a broom, but that might be too far.
 

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Good trade to get into! He'll get tool recs from his instructors. IBEW and NECA usually run the training programs around here.
According to people I know, many start in residential as an apprentice. You pay your dues with physical labor and learning to work fast.
With experience better gigs are commercial work, industrial maintenance, instrumentation, or working for the power company.
Electricians can always find side work.
 

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The first tools my electricians use is a hammer and demo bar to destroy everything that's in the way of their work...

Rationally thinking - I think the best thing to do would be to get something nice for yourself and give your son a bunch of hand-me-down tools. Once he gets working and starts earning some money, he's gong to dispose of whatever you give him, anyway. He's going to want to have what all the other cool kids have in their tool belts and/or whatever he picks out after being on the job for a bit.

@mikeb27 - Is your son interested in moving and/or traveling? The military (all branches including the Coast Guard) have great opportunities for the trades right now and (in addition to the record enlistment bonuses people are getting right now) I expect he would get experience and responsibility much faster that route in the current environment.
Unfortunately, too many of the youngsters of today can't meet the minimum requirements to enlist in any US Military service. Obesity and drug use is too common.
 

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There was another post like this a couple months back same thing someone looking for what tools to buy an apprentice electrician. If you can find it there's probably lots of good info in there.

If I was doing this Id wait till he's actually working and is either given a list or gets to know what he wants and buy stuff for him at that point.
 

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Gloves and a notebook should be the first thing a new apprentice will be needing, a tape measure will be next.
 

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Unfortunately, too many of the youngsters of today can't meet the minimum requirements to enlist in any US Military service. Obesity and drug use is too common.
Indeed, which makes for greater opportunities for young people who can meet the bar. Although recruiters are now providing help for folks who can't meet weight and the other physical fitness requirements. They will work to get people ready for boot camp.
 
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I think hand me downs are about as far as I would go. Let him buy his own tools. He'll be invested in them, literally and figuratively, and he'll know more about what is out there and what he has.

Could try to break the mold and get him a broom, but that might be too far.
His employer will provide that tool... :cool:
 

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The master electrician I hired for my home, I asked him how he got started.
He was hired as an apprentice. The first job he had to do was dig a 30' ditch to trench a main in the middle of the Texas summer. It's exceptionally difficult to dig here... So it was a bit of a Karate kid moment... His boss was testing his resiliency, not really his ability to digest electrical knowledge.

Don't be surprised if his first tool is a shovel, a broom, or if he's really unlucky a rock pick!

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If your son is on a budget, Klein lineman pliers are very spendy but are the standard even though I am happy with my Channel Locks and matching 9's. When I started at the Telco decades ago I was given some new 9's. Took awhile to break them in so they would fall open. I'm sure I buried them in mud to bet some abrasives in the tight joint.

No one mentioned a cordless driver/drill which he may not need right away. However, a selection of screwdrivers or bits is a must. With most devices now using the combo slotted Phillips, I have 2 screw drivers dedicated to the # 1 and the #2 sizes. Then there are the CB's with square drive. And many covers still have slotted screws. Klein makes an 11 in one screwdriver that would be handy before filling the pouch with many different insulated screwdrivers. It also has 3 sizes of nut drivers. For 14 bucks this takes the place of a lot of tools.

Then there's the subject of strippers. Again Klein and others make a nice combo stripper tool that handles 12 and 14 ga wire and NM cable. When I started stripping NM at the box took 3 tools. And it wasn't as clean.

I rounded out my bag with CL needle nose and dykes before adding more specialized tools. Still carry the basic adjustable wire strippers. You never know, you might be working with low voltage landscaping cable.
 

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Pretty much the only thing that doesn't **** from Klein any more are the wire strippers. I was lucky to get 3 months from a Phillips before it was unusable. All the newer pliers tend to break easily from normal use. Newer pipe reamers just snap with light use. The De-Klein is real.
 

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His boss was testing his resiliency, not really his ability to digest electrical knowledge.
I know someone who started by carrying bundles of EMT to the upper floors of a new condo project. If you didn't work fast enough, you got sent back to the union hall.
 

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After several years building ships I was laid off; the IBEW Hall dispatched me to a construction job.

The men on that job were almost running as they worked, I never want to see a construction job again.
 

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MY FIL was having hip problems and I weighed his tool pouch and belt.
Over 20 pounds
Agreed. By 2nd-year I was getting back issues from the heavy pouch/belt. Added suspenders - got worse.... by 3rd year, gave it up. Toolbag after that. Keep the few tools you're using at the moment in your bib overalls.
 

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Great. Push him as much as he will allow. And it is a field where you are well served and much sought after if you also put in some time and effort to study the physics behind electrical stuff.
Start with the easy and proceed to three phase systems. A bit of math helps a lot.
Especially the mastering of imaginary numbers. Circuits with caps and coils suddenly turn as easy to calculate as DC.
Top it of with symmetrical components.
And before diving into all the fantastic computer programs.
Use pen and paper and a simple calculator. Learn to estimate results before getting in to the computer programs.

Ola
 
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My son just started as an apprentice in June 2023. I bought him a bunch of Ideal & Klein tools that I thought he'd need. Turns out he barely uses any of it as an apprentice. He is mostly carrying supplies and bending conduit for the more experienced guys.
 

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My son just started as an apprentice in June 2023. I bought him a bunch of Ideal & Klein tools that I thought he'd need. Turns out he barely uses any of it as an apprentice. He is mostly carrying supplies and bending conduit for the more experienced guys.
Yeah, that and making the coffee run.
 

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My first 4 months as an apprentice was spent untangling TW solid wire, which came coiled in cardboard cartons, when the Jmen mistakenly pulled from the outside end instead of the inside end of the coil. (I started to think they did it intentionally). By that time I new all of the colors, but not their uses. I never needed any that I bought tools to do that.
 

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My 16 year old son is planning on applying to the electrician apprenticeship program after high school. He's 16 now, and in his junior year of high school. I want to start putting together a tool bag with the stuff he is going to need to start out in his career. Thinking about buying a few at a time over the next few years. I know there are a lot of knowledgeable electricians on this site, can anyone give me any recommendations of what to look for in starting a list? Thank you in advance.
I own a LOT of Klein tools, many of which I purchased early in my apprenticeship and are still going strong, but Knipex is growing on me more and more in this trade.

I was pretty much all Klein until I bought a pair of Knipex cobra pliers and a set of Knipex plier wrenches, after which I have yet to touch my Klein water pump pliers.

Many of the basic hand tools, with a little care will last an electrician well into their journey and even possibly master licenses, so I would suggest going with Klein or Knipex for cutting / stripping tools, Klein or Wera for screw drivers.

I know its not on the "required" list for most apprentices, but I would suggest buying them an Ideal 1/2" EMT bender (avoid the aluminum benders, especially for smaller conduit and especially if they are going to be working off a scissor lift, I've broken the foot off a few pairs before I finally bought iron heads and haven't had an issue since) and encourage them to buy a bundle of 1/2" EMT and learn to bend pipe early. If an apprentice can efficiently make basic bends and knows the basics of routing conduit, a lot of journey workers are much more willing to take the time to train them on other things in the trades earlier than if they come in very green, where they will likely be used more commonly as a labor than as an active apprentice.

Some good basic hand tools of the trade would be
Strippers are all dependent on what they start in (residential or commercial / industrial) and the type of wire they working with (stranded or solid, single conductor or romex)

For residential work, these are the most common among the coworkers I work with
For commercial / industrial, these are my go-to strippers
I haven't used Knipex strippers, so I can't really give an honest opinion on them, but if they are anything like Knipex's other tools, they are likely better than Klein.

This is a pretty "comprehensive" list, and by no means will any employer require a new apprentice to have all of this on their first day, but this is roughly what I had when I started and much of what I started with I still have. The only tools that didn't really last through my apprenticeship were wire strippers because I made mistakes early on and blew up a few pairs of wire strippers cutting energized circuits.

A lot of the larger electrical distributors have apprenticeship tool discount programs. Utilize these!

I hope that this can help guide you into a general sense of the needs of a first - forth year apprentice in regards to tools.

Edit: As a side note, I would also highly encourage them to "break in" new cutters, pliers, strippers by applying WD-40, PB plaster and a little marvels mystery oil or 3-in-1 oil to the hinge pin and working it back and forth to loosen up the hinge pin and allow for the tools to easily open on their own. I always got a bit of grief from the old crew members about having all new tools, which they associated with an apprentice being 'green' to the trade / not using their tools / not knowing how to use their tools. Being familiar with your tools, having them "jobsite ready" and being ready for work are important for any new apprentice.

Just my two cents.
 
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I was pretty much all Klein until I bought a pair of Knipex cobra pliers and a set of Knipex plier wrenches, after which I have yet to touch my Klein water pump pliers.
You are the first person I know of to not put Klein pump pliers and POS in the same sentence. I was given two pair of 10" by the first contractor I worked for. They used compression fittings for everything and at the end of my first day I stopped at a Wal-Mart of all places and bought two pair of Channellock 420's. I have no idea what ever happened to the Klein's after almost 30 years.
 

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You are the first person I know of to not put Klein pump pliers and POS in the same sentence. I was given two pair of 10" by the first contractor I worked for. They used compression fittings for everything and at the end of my first day I stopped at a Wal-Mart of all places and bought two pair of Channellock 420's. I have no idea what ever happened to the Klein's after almost 30 years.
Sadly, I used my Klein pump pliers for almost a decade before I 'discovered' Knipex Cobras.... I had larger Channellocks for anything over 1" fittings, but was pretty sold on Klein as a young apprentice.

Honestly, I liked the feel of the grips on the Klein journey series pump pliers, but was not a big fan of the bulkiness of the pliers and the lack of fine adjustment.

After I jumped on board with my first pair of Cobras, I discovered the difference and how much easier working with compression fittings was with a quality tool!
 
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My 16 year old son is planning on applying to the electrician apprenticeship program after high school. He's 16 now, and in his junior year of high school. I want to start putting together a tool bag with the stuff he is going to need to start out in his career. Thinking about buying a few at a time over the next few years. I know there are a lot of knowledgeable electricians on this site, can anyone give me any recommendations of what to look for in starting a list? Thank you in advance.
Usually first year electrician apprentices get a substantial discount on tools from certain suppliers. I would wait until he gets started. My daughters boyfriend finished his apprenticeship two years ago and is still buying tools. He has worked industrial, residential, commercial and now industrial maintenance.
 
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