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Embossing Sheet metal

TLGriff

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When I was building my 1972 Chevelle SS, the name I decided on was based on the history of the car. Since it was originally blue but would ultimately be black, what better name would there be than Back In Black? I decided it would look cool to emboss the name in the trunk lid like on the AC/DC album cover.

I made a full size printout of the name using the appropriate font, cut out the letters and glued them to a piece of sheet metal. After a bit of trial and error, I determined that .025" thick sheet made the best looking relief. Then came the somewhat tedious process of cutting them out using a punch and needle files. Luckily, a few of the letters were used more than once.

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The embossing technique consists of making a sandwich of the letters, the sheet to receive the embossing and a piece of very hard (95 durometer) polyurethane rubber. This sandwich is placed in a hydraulic press between twp pieces of steel plate and squeezed under great pressure. It took about 35 tons of pressure over the area of a few letters at a time to get the crisp appearance I was looking for. As you can see in the last picture, the rubber pushed the metal flush around the letters. Some of them were difficult to remove.

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Once all of the letters were embossed into the full size sheet, hems were formed on the right side and bottom to match those on the trunk lid. I used a brake for this and to give the panel the rough curve of the trunk lid. Fine tuning was done over a piece of PVC pipe and on a wooden form.

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When I made the cut-out in the trunk, the upper edge pulled in. I didn't notice it until I started welding when it pulled in even more. I had stretch the area with a hammer and dolly to move it back out as I welded. The key to a warp free job is to use lots of tack welds, no larger than those in the picture. Each one was cooled with a wet rag before another was made. Moving around a lot and grinding them down with the edge of a cut-off wheel also keeps heat from building up in a localized area and causing warps. Next comes metal finishing. My goal is to use as little filler as possible, none near the lettering.

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Man that's super cool! :cool: Is the .025" sheet the actual stock you are forming into or the thickness of your letter-punches?

Also curious where you sourced the 95 duro urethane?

I've often said that "real trucks have their name stamped into the metal" as they stopped this practice in late 1980s...but its back these days...although I think its molded into plastic rather than stamped as you've done.
 

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Very nice!!! Did you use draw quality steel?

Do you know how much tonnage it too to press the Letters???

We have done tons of embossing. We have a set of Die Shoes we set up in the Press Brake. Create a template, use tooling holes as locators. VHB Tape the Letters or shape in place. Depending on the emboss the tape will hold together for hundreds of parts.

After the blank is embossed we cut the outer perimeter using either the Laser or a Turret Press.
 
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TLGriff

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Man that's super cool! :cool: Is the .025" sheet the actual stock you are forming into or the thickness of your letter-punches?

Also curious where you sourced the 95 duro urethane?

I've often said that "real trucks have their name stamped into the metal" as they stopped this practice in late 1980s...but its back these days...although I think its molded into plastic rather than stamped as you've done.

Thanks.

The .025" was the thickness of the letters, or depth of the emboss. The thickness of the panel matched that of the trunk lid. Don't remember the number.

The polyurethane came from McMaster Carr.

Tom
 
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TLGriff

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Very nice!!! Did you use draw quality steel?

Do you know how much tonnage it too to press the Letters???

We have done tons of embossing. We have a set of Die Shoes we set up in the Press Brake. Create a template, use tooling holes as locators. VHB Tape the Letters or shape in place. Depending on the emboss the tape will hold together for hundreds of parts.

After the blank is embossed we cut the outer perimeter using either the Laser or a Turret Press.

Thanks.

Just standard low carbon cold rolled sheet. I think the tonnage was around 35, but I could only do a letter or so at a time. To do the entire panel at once would have taken much more.

I've heard it can be done with an English wheel and a poly roller, but I haven't tried it. The force would be concentrated over a much smaller area, so it wouldn't take near as much to get the job done.

Tom
 
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bdk1976

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While I don't really care for the application, that is some excellent work!
 

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Great job on that !
Not trying to hijack you’re thread , but another way is with stickers. I don’t know if you can get as deep of an emboss with stickers though.
Put them on and run through English wheel or roller.

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Beautiful job!

Back in the 80s there was guy in my neighborhood that had an all black 70 firebird that said back in black across the rear spoiler. Always stuck out in my mind as a cool car.
 

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Looks good. I have an older Chevy tailgate here I am going to cut the embossed CHEVROLET out of and graft it into the tailgate of my S10.
 
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Great job on that !
Not trying to hijack you’re thread , but another way is with stickers. I don’t know if you can get as deep of an emboss with stickers though.
Put them on and run through English wheel or roller.

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Interesting, is that a single sticker, or do you have to build them up????
 
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TLGriff

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Did you do it twice? In the first photo the wide leg of the A's is on the right side, in the second photo on the left.
Probably. Looks like the A was backwards in the first pic.

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Amazing and creative. Really surprised you don't see this more often. Nice work!
 
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