Engine Lift Questions
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SpiderGearsMan
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that is a black hawk it blows away the flimsy fold up hoist , like not wanting to tip over
Kinda hard to screw up something so simple. If the tubing is beef, welds are good, and the hardware is of a proper size/grade, then what can go wrong (Famous last words...).
What is the rating, and reach of it fully extended?
If I had the room for something that doesn't fold, that would be a sweet choice.
What is the rating, and reach of it fully extended?
If I had the room for something that doesn't fold, that would be a sweet choice.
Ign
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That thing is sweet.
speed bump
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Every well equipped garage has ways of dealing with this.
Simply put, storage and flexibility of use are more important than anything else as long as the basic function is good.
My $100 used with an engine block HF 1 ton folds up, does all I need to do, and sells quick for $75 or more if I need to get rid of it and reclaim the 24x36 of floor space its uses. The fold up legs allow them to be a V, so I can go in from the side and straddle a wheel, and the casters on the front let me rotate it so I can take the engine out the side or the front.
That one will be harder to sell, no easy way to move it except a larger truck, and getting it in and out of the bed will be no fun. Its going to be the odd customer that is willing to use that much space for a cherry picker, that hasn't already gone with something even bigger.
My $100 used with an engine block HF 1 ton folds up, does all I need to do, and sells quick for $75 or more if I need to get rid of it and reclaim the 24x36 of floor space its uses. The fold up legs allow them to be a V, so I can go in from the side and straddle a wheel, and the casters on the front let me rotate it so I can take the engine out the side or the front.
That one will be harder to sell, no easy way to move it except a larger truck, and getting it in and out of the bed will be no fun. Its going to be the odd customer that is willing to use that much space for a cherry picker, that hasn't already gone with something even bigger.
diesel research
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It doesn't need to fold up to save space. Would be a quick jub to make the legs "removable".
Think like a receiver and hitch. Add in a few easy "take down" pins.
Think like a receiver and hitch. Add in a few easy "take down" pins.
rockchucker
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I used to have one of those. Dude gave it to me. Broke my back loading and unloading it by myself. They weigh a lot and take up a lot of space. Best Cherry Picker in the world if you have the space for it. I personally like the newer one I have with different options for extending the Legs and the Boom. This makes it easy when Jack Stands are in the way or there is limited space. Then you can also slide the legs in and drop the Boom for storage.
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It is a Powerbuilt model. Pretty beefy but in the picture it looks bent due to the Sleeved Leg Extensions. I have pulled V-6 Twin Turbo Cast Iron Blocks fully assembled with heavy *** TT Auto Transmissions bolted up to the Engine without issue. I have had it for 4-5 years and pulled 20 Engines with it. Use it for other heavy lifting jobs all of the time too. Takes about 60 seconds to set it up and put it away.
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It is a Powerbuilt model. Pretty beefy but in the picture it looks bent due to the Sleeved Leg Extensions. I have pulled V-6 Twin Turbo Cast Iron Blocks fully assembled with heavy *** TT Auto Transmissions bolted up to the Engine without issue. I have had it for 4-5 years and pulled 20 Engines with it. Use it for other heavy lifting jobs all of the time too. Takes about 60 seconds to set it up and put it away.
Damn. That is nice. Would go perfect with this engine stand I have.
The only disadvantage I see is the lack of folding up. For me, that thing would always be in the way.
Yeah, and you'll never guess where it is, too
Sounds good, but also sounds like something my hack-*** could not do.
I am glad for the variety of replies here. The angle of the legs had me wondering, and I see one or two people feel they are inferior to the modern units.
As for taking up space, I reckon since I only pull an engine once in a while, I could otherwise store the lift in a disassembled condition. I am assuming that the individual components can be broken down.
I'm sure thinking about grabbing it.
diesel research
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Sounds good, but also sounds like something my hack-*** could not do.
There are some people in the back of the phone book that handles this kind of stuff for a living. Some even have trucks and come to you.
....then gain, no one said that you could not attach an outer "receiver" sleeve with bolts or other similar fasteners though the legs....
I'd get that in a heartbeat.
Yeah, the folding ones are nice, because they fold. Other than that, they seem to be cheaper for a reason. My experience has been that they aren't as heavy duty and they tend to flex with a lot of weight on them--so they'll lift a back wheel.
I've got an old American-made fixed-leg with four swivel casters on it. I just store it outside my garage. Yeah, I hate storing things outside, but I've had it 8 years in Georgia and several years in Florida, and the rain really isn't doing it any favors, but it hasn't ruined it either.
Even broken down and folded up, they take up more space than I can afford in my garage.
If I have a complaint about mine, it's that the legs are higher off the ground with the casters than I'd like. I run into issues with low clearance vehicles. That hoist you're posting is a nice low profile unit that will easily slide under cross members. Mine also has the legs spreading out, while yours are straight... I think the straighter legs would be an advantage because you can just slide them right in and you KNOW what they're going to hit, while the V'd legs sometimes get hung up.
Your forward casters are fixed, all four of mine swivel. Sometimes I hate that they all swivel, but sometimes I need to move the front end over an inch or the whole thing needs to go sideways a couple inches, and then I'm grateful for the swiveling casters.
Mine DOES come fully apart, and I take it apart for transport. Otherwise, it stays together, parked in front of my shop. Just make sure you keep the cylinder in the fully closed position, to protect it from rust and seal-killing dirt.
Your mileage may vary.
-Brad
Yeah, the folding ones are nice, because they fold. Other than that, they seem to be cheaper for a reason. My experience has been that they aren't as heavy duty and they tend to flex with a lot of weight on them--so they'll lift a back wheel.
I've got an old American-made fixed-leg with four swivel casters on it. I just store it outside my garage. Yeah, I hate storing things outside, but I've had it 8 years in Georgia and several years in Florida, and the rain really isn't doing it any favors, but it hasn't ruined it either.
Even broken down and folded up, they take up more space than I can afford in my garage.
If I have a complaint about mine, it's that the legs are higher off the ground with the casters than I'd like. I run into issues with low clearance vehicles. That hoist you're posting is a nice low profile unit that will easily slide under cross members. Mine also has the legs spreading out, while yours are straight... I think the straighter legs would be an advantage because you can just slide them right in and you KNOW what they're going to hit, while the V'd legs sometimes get hung up.
Your forward casters are fixed, all four of mine swivel. Sometimes I hate that they all swivel, but sometimes I need to move the front end over an inch or the whole thing needs to go sideways a couple inches, and then I'm grateful for the swiveling casters.
Mine DOES come fully apart, and I take it apart for transport. Otherwise, it stays together, parked in front of my shop. Just make sure you keep the cylinder in the fully closed position, to protect it from rust and seal-killing dirt.
Your mileage may vary.
-Brad
bgott
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Remember the good old days when you could go down to the equipment rental company and rent an engine hoist? The ones with the hitch on the upright and spindles and car wheels and tires so you could tow it on your bumper hitch?
mtkst19
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just drive to jersey and buy it. price is right.
if you have room, then the fact it does not fold is mute. at work i use an old ruger. home i have a folding hf 2 ton. room is a premium in the home garage. the older ruger is million times nicer. but the convenience of folding wins for the hf at home.
if you have room, then the fact it does not fold is mute. at work i use an old ruger. home i have a folding hf 2 ton. room is a premium in the home garage. the older ruger is million times nicer. but the convenience of folding wins for the hf at home.
speed bump
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Yeah like Tuesday when the rental store is open again?
crewchief888
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Do you see any disadvantages to this older style of hoist vs. the modern hoist OTHER than the fact that this one does not fold for storage?
looks like the one i used to use at the last heavy equipment shop i worked in.
we had it back in the rebuild room, set it up with a different ram and hyd powerpac.
we used for anything we couldnt pick up by hand, diesel eng blocks, trans and differential housings.
the thing was a tank.
Yeah, and you'll never guess where it is, too
I'm sure thinking about grabbing it.
I guess NJ eh? No brainer...get it.
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bgott
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No, you rent it on Friday so you have an extra free day.
Do those legs come off?? It looks like one big "L".
It looks like you can detach the ram from the boom arm and the arm should drop to pretty much a vertical position. That will recover a little more room for you. Just make sure you secure the ram so it doesn't flop around and hit something valuable. That is how I store my Chinese collapsible. Just check the welds before handing over cash.
22T
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Thats the same engine hoist I have.I made mine fold up.Added swivel wheels to the legs.Works great,manuvers great,and very stabile.
SpiderGearsMan
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we had an air powered blackhawk at chevrolet