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Engine, tilting, lifting removal thingie.

toglhot

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This is an engine removal, tilting lifting thingie I made for my XS650. The XS650 motor is a very tight fit in the frame, In their wisdom, the Japanese decided if you need to work on the engine, it should be removed from the frame. But removing the engine from the frame is not an easy job as there’s only mms to spare between frame and engine parts., so, a fair bit of wiggling, twisting, manoeuvring and lifting is required. It can be done by hand, but as the motor weighs somewhere around 180LB and there being very few places to grab the thing it isn’t easy. Commercially available engine cranes can be used, but due to the tight tolerances between engine and frame and the amount of manoeuvring required, getting the engine out without scratching and chipping the paintwork is virtually impossible without padding the frame with carpet or inner tubes. So, I made this thingie that tilts, lifts and rolls, and this is how it works:

First remove front, top and rear engine mounts and disconnect all the electrical connections. I also removed the carbs and starter motor. They probably didn't need to be removed, but just to be safe and give a better visual of the lower engine mount, I thought it wise.

Then attach the thingie to the engine via the front mount and the upper rear mount, take the strain and remove the long lower engine bolt and the lower rear bolt, tilt the motor forward a few degrees and lift the engine several mms then roll the thingie forward several mms. Tilt the motor forward again a few more degrees until the rear rocker mount sits under the highest point of the top frame tube mount and the lower frame mount sits between the starter motor mount and the lower engine mount, lift the engine again until the lower engine mount will clear the starter and engine mount, that leaves two or three mms clearance between engine and frame, top and bottom Then roll the thingie out the right hand side about 60mm so the rocker box mounts clear the top frame tube. Finally, lift the engine a few mms again until the sump studs underneath will clear the frame and wheel the engine away from the frame. Hey presto, engine out, no padding required for the frame, and no scratching the paintwork. It took around 10 minutes.

The engine can be left in the thingie for top end repairs, and alternator and clutch repairs if the motor is turned around in the thingie. After I’ve finished repairs on the top end, I intend on modifying the thingie so the engine can be rotated upside down, allowing the bottom end and gearbox to be disassembled.
 

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bwringer

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Nice!

And something very similar is probably how they built the things in the first place.


On a related note, I've often wondered how they breed the bony-fingered gnomes they employ for factory work in Japan.
 

ChefRex

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Nice Job! I guess your into the XS for the long run.
I've bear hugged enough HD big V-twins through the years but at least they are balanced, Sportsters not so much.
 
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alfadan

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I used to have an 81. Great bike but it started constantly eating stator windings and were getting hard to find.
 
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toglhot

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In many instances the easiest way to remove a motorcycle engine is to lay the bike on its side on top of a blanket, then remove the engine mounting bolts, then lift the frame up off the engine.
That's how I got the engine in the frame. Unfortunately, to do the same getting the engine out would mean completely disassembling the bike. Much, much easier this way.
 

driftpin

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Good for you for making a stand which works for your bike engine.

I once had a Special II but I wasn't using it at all, I had three KZ1000's at the time. I ended up selling it to a couple guys from England who came to the USA to buy used bikes, and to ship them back to England. They re-work them and sell them there. Evidently a good business plan as this was the second trip they made to Miami.
 
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