EpoArmor from JNK - any experiences?

[tommya]

Just wondering if anyone has used it and what the experience was. I'm most concerned with "hot tire pick up".

http://www.jnkproducts.com/epoarmor.htm

 

[carguy123]

Not exactly cheap, is it?

The more I look the more I am beginning to subscribe to the theory of using a cheaper floor paint and just touch it up occassionally.

 

[tommya]

Not exactly cheap, is it?

The more I look the more I am beginning to subscribe to the theory of using a cheaper floor paint and just touch it up occassionally.

True, cheap it is not, expensive doesn't always mean better either. I used cheap floor paint years ago and it lasted less than a year, not even worth the effort in my opinion.

 

[Kingham]

True, cheap it is not, expensive doesn't always mean better either. I used cheap floor paint years ago and it lasted less than a year, not even worth the effort in my opinion.

so true... we I read this post, I just cringe... don't use cheap floor paint..

it will look like **** in less than a year.. as everyone is learning on this forum. floor prep is the most important step in laying epoxy flooring.

Use a good epoxy product. I recommend staying away from any water based epoxy. Yep.. epoxy is more expensive than paint but if you do it right... it will last 10 times longer and you will be very happy long term.

 

[jskco]

Just wondering if anyone has used it and what the experience was. I'm most concerned with "hot tire pick up".

http://www.jnkproducts.com/epoarmor.htm

In the interest of full disclosure, I work for a company who sells EpoArmor. This is not an advertisement and I am not trying to convince you to buy anything. Sometimes some facts from someone who deals with the product every day will help.

The first thing I tell people is that I would never use any garage floor epoxy in my own garage. I would use garage floor mats or garage floor tiles such as those available from the site that was linked to above or other sites like garagefloor.com. Why? A very large percentage of homeowner installed garage floor epoxy jobs fail. Sometimes they fail because the products are bad, sometimes they fail because the instructions are not followed and sometimes they fail because the instructions are not as good as they could be.

If you are going to use an epoxy, us one with a high percentage of solids and not an epoxy that is water based. Always use epoxy with a high quality aliphatic urethane top coat.

If you follow the EpoArmor instructions the product works very very well. You just need to pay attention to the installation temperature and mixing instructions and NEVER use water to clean your floor.

There are other good epoxy products on the market. Make sure that your system thickness is over 20 mils and if possible use a product that is flexible (not brittle like paint).

 

[volvo]

>>>>You just need to pay attention to the installation temperature and mixing instructions and NEVER use water to clean your floor.
>>>>

Never use water in pre-prep clean up, even if allowed to dry OR any time after product is installed??? ...H

What are you suppose to use to clean the floor??

 

[jskco]

>>>>You just need to pay attention to the installation temperature and mixing instructions and NEVER use water to clean your floor.
>>>>

Never use water in pre prep clean up, even if allowed to dry OR any time after product is installed??? ...H

Do not use it in prep. Concrete is not always dry when it appears dry.

 

[volvo]

Thank You...H

 

[twostory]

Do not use it in prep. Concrete is not always dry when it appears dry.

If you do not use water, how do you "acid etch" the floor?

Or do you rent a floor sander to roughen up the floor for the epoxy?

I plan on epoxy coating my floor this summer, I would like to hear you advice on floor prep.

Thanks...

 

[jskco]

If you do not use water, how do you "acid etch" the floor?

Or do you rent a floor sander to roughen up the floor for the epoxy?

I plan on epoxy coating my floor this summer, I would like to hear you advice on floor prep.

Thanks...

First, the recommendations I am making only apply to EpoArmor as I can't make suggestions on products I don't have first hand experience with. With EpoArmor, you don’t have to acid etch your floor. Also, I want to point out that there is a difference between grinding and sanding your garage floor. If you are going to grind your floor, make sure you grind it.

With EpoArmor, if you have uncoated concrete there is no need for grinding, sanding or etching. Just clean your floor. Sweep it, vacuum it, and use some solvents to remove any tough stains (solvents evaporate faster than water). EpoArmor is flexible and sticks to almost anything. If you are using a product where you must use Acid follow the directions carefully especially on how long you need to wait before coating.

There is one thing I can guarantee you. Your chances of having a problem with Epoxy on a do-it-yourself job are much much higher than using another product such as garage floor tile or garage floor mats.

Justin Krauss
JNK Products, LLC

 

[GearHead_1]

Reading this thread gives me the feeling that there must be black magic involved in putting epoxy down in order to get a good long wearing finish. Though there are some pieces of concrete that just shouldn't be covered in epoxy there are many that can benefit from its use. To take that one step further there are a number of very good epoxy products on the market. Testing the concrete to make sure that it isn't wicking water is one of the biggest problems for epoxy failure. This type of concrete would be better to suited to some of the other available options. That said I've put down several of these floors that have not only looked good but lasted many years with no dramatic wear. I've always acid etched the floors. Don't be scared of the task just look at it carefully, make sure the surface is properly prepped and water isn't coming up through it.

 

[04 Navi]

First, the recommendations I am making only apply to EpoArmor as I can't make suggestions on products I don't have first hand experience with. With EpoArmor, you don’t have to acid etch your floor. Also, I want to point out that there is a difference between grinding and sanding your garage floor. If you are going to grind your floor, make sure you grind it.

With EpoArmor, if you have uncoated concrete there is no need for grinding, sanding or etching. Just clean your floor. Sweep it, vacuum it, and use some solvents to remove any tough stains (solvents evaporate faster than water). EpoArmor is flexible and sticks to almost anything. If you are using a product where you must use Acid follow the directions carefully especially on how long you need to wait before coating.

There is one thing I can guarantee you. Your chances of having a problem with Epoxy on a do-it-yourself job are much much higher than using another product such as garage floor tile or garage floor mats.

Justin Krauss
JNK Products, LLC

If I don't etch prior to using your product, then how can it adhere good enought that it won't lift, say when my wife turns the wheel while parked, (don't ask)? Also I assume that your product is not water based correct?

I do like the thickness part of the EpoArmor. Thanks.

 

[Dave88LX]

I like this line

Once you start the installation process, do not stop unless it is for health reasons. The epoxy will start to set immediately.

I like the lack of prep work needed for this system...I'll have to research it some more.

 

[Dave88LX]

Disregard.

 

[Dave88LX]

Disregard.

 

[Dave88LX]

Still hoping someone has some experience with this product? If I don't have to go through the majority of the BS prep work then it sounds worthwhile...

 

[pev942]

so no one? has used this product. i like the fact that you dont have to etch also i moving into a new house and i have to finish the garage before we can move in

 

[pev942]

how clean does floor need to be and will it stick with out ecthing. is regular urethane coats every couple of years all it needs?