Epoxy and Tile (Brands+Prices)

[Tom2]

Just wanted to say I bought my VCT tiles at Home Depot for around 55c sq/ft. (bought last summer)
I also got 20% off because they screwed up my delivery..A little negotiation can go a long way.

Basically cheaper than epoxy..and will look better than all but the best pro epoxy jobs(imo). (which can cost in the thousands)

Anywho..Hoping to install it sometime this winter. Been too busy making the rest of the house livable.
I have to resurface the concrete though. I wouldnt put VCT over pitted concrete. You can see what that looks like in stores after years and years of wear..It will show any imperfection underneath. Especially if you drive cars on it.
I wont be though.

 

[LAWFISH]

You forgot to mention Armstrong VCT tile... 80 cents a square foot in most cases, maybe even less...wears like iron, won't flake or peel, the moon and stars don't have to be positioned just right to apply it, and IMO, looks as good or better than anything else.

cAN ANYONE POST A link to the tile they are talking about like this? Is it all black and or white or does it have some other colors in it? The cheapest I can find from LOWES is over $1.00 a foot?

this link here http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=89172-61-56790031&lpage=none $45.00 a case plus and then the price goes up from there?

Any whole salers around. I am thinking this is the route I want, since I also want a new $1700 blast cabinet for the shop this year.

Home depot shows nothing on their website and LOWES shows what I posted.

Thanks Dave

 

[LAWFISH]

I have also found this, http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=89092-61-51910031&lpage=none its cheaper, but only says vinyl tile and not vinyl composit tile or VCT? Is there a difference and I would prefer a single color like black and white, but does most VCT or vinyl tile that is in that price range come mixed with the spots in it. How does that look?

Dave
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=89092-61-51910031&lpage=none

 

[Tom2]

Their websites never have as much stuff as whats in the store. Just go in the store and ask for VCT tile. Should be around the vinyl floors..
Home Depot has more of it than Lowes (atleast ours did). Lowes just ad a couple different colors.
Of course, you can special order from a ton of different colors.

Edit: the link you posted from Lowes is correct. It goes by diff names..

 

[john2499]

Hello,

I am a resilient flooring installer. I have had this discussion, at various times while on the job. There has been a few schools of thought and varying of opinions. I think most of my colleagues like VCT. I feel comfortable saying in my professional opinion, I would go with VCT, and I intend to when I have my garage built.

I would definitely recommend what we call "cutback" glue. It is asphalt base and if any residual moisture, especially snow imbedded in tire treads, settles upon the floor and eventually between the tile joints, the moisture will not breakdown the glue as it will definitely do water based adhesives. You will not find this adhesive (S-89) on the shelves of most home improvement stores. It may be available special order at Lowes and the likes, but I know you can get it from an Armstrong distributor. We do not use it as much as we did years ago because of it's so-called environmental issues and probably more so, it's odor. I can not think any benefits the latex based adhesives have over cutback other than there mild odor.

As far as making the floor non-skid, you can purchase VCT from a few manufactures with imbedded materials in the tile to create a non-skid surface, i.e. bits of glass or sand. These tiles are tougher to cut and wear your knife blades considerably, but they do offer more traction over basic VCT, though never expect a completely slip free environment. Unfortunately though your color choices are quite less.

I hope I have been helpful.

John.

 

[Seamless Floor Coatings]

We offer our custom blend of metalic epoxies as well

 

[eepoxy]

Everlast Floor by Everlast Epoxy Systems
$3.95 per square foot.
Comes in 25 foot kits.
This is not a paint, it is troweled on.
Made from natural marble - very attractive.
http://www.EverlastEpoxy.com

 

[Jason B]

Just wanted to say I bought my VCT tiles at Home Depot for around 55c sq/ft. (bought last summer)
I also got 20% off because they screwed up my delivery..A little negotiation can go a long way.

Basically cheaper than epoxy..and will look better than all but the best pro epoxy jobs(imo). (which can cost in the thousands)

Anywho..Hoping to install it sometime this winter. Been too busy making the rest of the house livable.
I have to resurface the concrete though. I wouldnt put VCT over pitted concrete. You can see what that looks like in stores after years and years of wear..It will show any imperfection underneath. Especially if you drive cars on it.
I wont be though.

I love my VCT! Did my whole 3 car garage for $425!

For any of you that want to do VCT tile, this is a great write-up to follow!

http://www.burtmanindustries.com/images/garage/vct_install.pdf - print it out and get started!

 

[Tom2]

Yep..Ive seen pictures of yours before. It looks awesome.

I still havent installed mine.. I think I'll atleast be waiting until spring. That way I can work with the garage open and get the concrete resurfaced. The resurfacer will probably cost more than the VCT tiles did..

 

[flyng_fool]

Ceramic and similar will not necessarily hold up to the weight. Any hairline cracks in the slab can crack the tile. A good question but not a practical solution.

Run4Floor

Not necessarily. There are 4 different grades of ceramic tile for different applications.

Grade 1: Walls
Grade 2: Residential flooring
Grade 3: Commercial flooring
Grade 4: Industrial apps

Interestingly enough, there are a lot of ceramic flooring "experts" that haven't even heard of the different grades.

 

[Coating]

DekraTex is not an epoxy, it is an Aliphatic Polyurea.

http://polyfloorcoating.com/

Material cost goes from .50 a sq ft up depending on color, design etc. I did one job with it, try to post pictures later.

Coating

 

[IBEW]

Lowes sells a 2 part epoxy in a kit 65.00 that covers 250 sq. ft. Best deal I have seen. Several colors as well. You can add sand to the paint to give it a no skid affect.
Anyone install radiant heat? What the best? Best price etc.
thanks
Mike

 

[Stain]

Hello guys. I'm new here but wanted to post what I found on the Armstrong VCT site. It states that you have to maintain 55 degrees farenheit at all times once the tile is installed. This is to ensure proper tile and glue durability. This might not be easily accomplished in cooler climates.

 

[FastEddieG]

...

To coat it to our recomendations for home and medium duty shop floors - We'd spec 5 mils of BondTite 1101 for primer coat, 12 mils of LiquaTile 1184 for the body coat, and 3.2 mils (dry) of EnduraShield for UV resistant clear coat. Factoring in waste and packaging that would be 3 gallons of BondTite 101, 6 gallons of LiquaTile 1184, and 1.875 gallons of EnduraShield 2254. In dollars and cents? $225 + 450 + 314 = 989. That would leave $211 for flakes & decal.

Your finished system would be a nominal 25.20 mils thick. It will resist hot tire pick-up, brake fluids, oils, etc..

...

I thought I was good at math, but I'm confused on how 5+12+3.2 adds up to a thickness of 25.2 mils. I'm 5 mil short so is there a 2nd coat of BondTite somewhere that I am missing?

Also, OP, please add Wolverine, Devoe, etc to your original post as options for epoxy.

-Ed

 

[dealchaser]

Tiles

Gladiator Garageworks
http://www.gladiatorgw.com/
Floor Tile: $4.99 sq ft + shipping
Drain Tile: $6.24 sq ft + shipping

X-Floor
http://www.diamondlifegear.com
SpeedFloor Tile" $3.95 sq ft + shipping
Flow thru Tile: $4.95 ft + shipping

Floor Junkies
http://www.floorjunkies.com
Diamond Garage Tile" $1.99 sq ft + free shipping
Coin Garage Tile: $1.79 sq ft + free shipping
Perforated Garage Tile: $1.69 sq ft + free shipping

 

[hartattack]

Just finished building my garage. I am using it to work on my snowmobiles and park in the odd time. I have in floor heat and was wondering if i put down vct tiles it would effect the heat trying to rise. Also when the snow is melting off the sleds would that water cause the floor to lift or would wax keep it water tight?

 

[MotorMat]

Glad to see such an awesome garage site. Check out these premium garage tiles.

MotorMat
$2.85/ sq ft with free shipping

http://www.tylonflooring.com/motor_mat.php

 

[427HISS]

I have interlocking tiles if you're interested. There great with snow, mud ect. Just send me a pm or email.
Thanks.

 

[lambeau]

Used rust oleum epoxy in five year old garage. Preperation and patience is
the most important. It is not a one day job! But once applied properly, the
results are outstanding. Just degreaser and a good power wash will surfice
for a newer garage. I did not park in the garage for five weeks, as I was
hanging cabinets and insulation. In the spring I will apply another coat
and clear coat. I have applied this in my shop, results are good but
clear coat is a must. You can do this yourself and save alot of money.
We have been parking in the garage for several months, no lifting of
epoxy. Spilled fluids, such as oil, water, beer , soda, simply wipe up.
Hope this helps.

 

[WinFred]

Of all the products listed I believe, from experience, the Behr line is the least desireable...

doesn't wear well and poor product support...

 

[aabirdman]

just a though but does'nt armstrong VCT come in two differnet thickness. I know that the stuff we would put hospitals was thicher then some of the product availible and brand H or brand L. I was thinjkng that is like a home owner grade verses a commerical/industrial grade.

 

[WinFred]

just a though but does'nt armstrong VCT come in two differnet thickness.

.

it does...

 

[awickline23]

new to forum. 40x80 first floor with 6 inch concrete slab just poured with in floor radiant heat. mason left a very smooth surface with appropriate expansion cuts. No sealant applied. live in very snowy climate (utica NY) and am looking for 2-3 best options for DIY/or installed heat/chemical resistant floor--was sold on u coat it but forum leads me to believe there are better choices. thanks for your help

 

[97 fzj80]

Hi, I'm a newb here. I just wanted to add my experience with the garage floor here.

I own a repair shop and recently put PPG 2 part epoxy down on the shop floor for under $0.25 per sq ft. Since it's a 50 YO shop floor with lots of chips and scratches, I was getting less than the recommended coverage. With a typical residental garage with minimal wear, It should cost $.16-$.18 per sq ft.

For the showroom area, I lay the interlocking plastic (PP) floor for under $2 per sq ft. I was hesitant at first due to the high cost of the plastic floor tiles, but after looking at the plastic tile floor installed in other garages, I took the plunge. The result looks awesome. FWIW, I got it direct from the manufacturer who does the contract floor manufacturing for other labels. The floor is available with all the side and corner ramp edges. The coolest part is that I got some tiles with bump-stops built-in to keep the the vehicles from bumping into the walls.

 

[W126C]

A few questions about the VCT.

1) How is it holding up this winter Jason B?

2) Has the cold temps effected the adhesive under the tiles close to the doors?

3) Do jack stands and floor jacks cause any damage?

4) Would you or could you place a 4-post lift with dollies on the VCT?

 

[joedakotas]

We used Armorclad epoxy. By far the best system/value. Lifetime warranty, shipped out same day. Nice people to do business with. Cost vs thickness is least expensive of any epoxy on the market. Check what you are getting for the money. We found most epoxies give less gallons and such.

 

[gregp]

Jason,
I have the similar questions re the cold weather and VCT. Does the temp have any real effect to the tile? Did you do anything special at the entrance of the garage doors for edging? How are they holding up with the snow and salt from the cars on them?
Where did you purchase your tile?
Thanks,
Greg

 

[ktrice7138]

If you have a three car garage and there was two pours (one for the single and one for the two car area) can you place VCT tiles over the seam between the two pours to cover it up or are you asking for trouble? If the answer is no to covering can someone give me some good ideas about how to make it look good.

 

[rustbucket49]

I'm really sorry to ask this because I know the answer to my question is somewhere in one of these threads...... But here goes: is there any reason to spend upwards of $800 for an epoxy floor coating like Wolverine or equivalent when you can get a Rustoleum or something else for a fraction of that cost???

I really have no clue as to differences in quality, ease of application, etc......

 

[WolverineCoatings]

I'm really sorry to ask this because I know the answer to my question is somewhere in one of these threads...... But here goes: is there any reason to spend upwards of $800 for an epoxy floor coating like Wolverine or equivalent when you can get a Rustoleum or something else for a fraction of that cost???

I really have no clue as to differences in quality, ease of application, etc......

You only have to buy Wolverine... once.

Fred with AlphaGarage has a really nice breakdown of cost vs. thickness. Obviously you have to consider what you get for the money. A 'paper thin' coating should be MUCH cheaper than a 'thick' coating. THEN... a cheap sand filled epoxy should be much cheaper than a ceramic or semi-ceramic Wolverine floor. Wolverine isn't the cheapest product on the market but we feel like it's the best bang for the buck! Fred's e-mail address is listed in my signature.

 

[TheBanker]

I'm really sorry to ask this because I know the answer to my question is somewhere in one of these threads...... But here goes: is there any reason to spend upwards of $800 for an epoxy floor coating like Wolverine or equivalent when you can get a Rustoleum or something else for a fraction of that cost???

I really have no clue as to differences in quality, ease of application, etc......

I'm right there with you Rust49.

 

[TheBanker]

We used Armorclad epoxy. By far the best system/value. Lifetime warranty, shipped out same day. Nice people to do business with. Cost vs thickness is least expensive of any epoxy on the market. Check what you are getting for the money. We found most epoxies give less gallons and such.

Joe, how did it work out? Any pics?

 

[BiggestMike]

Just got a quote of $3.50/ft for polishing/sealing the concrete. Sounded a little high, really.

 

[TheBanker]

Quikcrete and Rustoleum are not as cheap as they appear. When I started adding it up they are just as expensive for WB as Epoxy-Coat 100% solids, for example. If I remember right Quikcete is $70.00 for 250 Sq ft. I need 500 sq ft. Since it is WB then I really should do two coats. So that would be 4 x 70 = $280.00 plus I want clear coat, thats another $140.00 for a total so far of $420.00. Thats not including all the tools and such that are included in some kits. I think Epoxy-Coat was something like $484.00 for 500 Sq ft including clear and all tools. In this case I think Epoxy-Coat would be a better choice???

 

[TONE]

Dan (floormaster)

Maybe you need to hire a secretary to type for you.

God Bless,
TONE

 

[TheBanker]

I am speachloss.

 

[tkrum5]

A few questions about the VCT.

1) How is it holding up this winter Jason B?

2) Has the cold temps effected the adhesive under the tiles close to the doors?

3) Do jack stands and floor jacks cause any damage?

4) Would you or could you place a 4-post lift with dollies on the VCT?

Did not see any answers for these 4 questions. Can anyone help out here?

 

[TickTack]

Did not see any answers for these 4 questions. Can anyone help out here?

I'm interested in an answer too!

 

[BackYardMech]

If you want a Garage floor to stand up to real garage issues like hot tire lift off, oil spills and the strongest durability also slip resistant if you want for the very cold areas. Use a solid epoxy like Epoxy Coat, one day prep and one day installation for each coat. you can do it yourself for $450.00 for a two car garage.

 

[J.Applehouse]

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