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Estwing “English Pattern”

Dave455

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I was out and about last week and got this!

At first glance it’s just a regular Estwing hammer, except it’s not! They call this the “English Pattern” and it differs from the American pattern in the shape of the head. (They are correct, this is a traditional English pattern of carpenters hammer, though of course they never made them in a one piece forging!)

When I’m not using a wooden handled hammer I’ve always tended to favour Vaughan, lovely tools and really durable, but this Estwing has absolutely lovely balance, in fact everything is right! Although they seem to be a regular catalogue item, I don’t see many “in the wild” so to speak.
 

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A 20 oz Estwing straight claw leather handle is my "everyday" hammer. It lives in my tool belt and is an extension of my body.
 

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I spent many years swinging a 20 oz. steel handled Estwing. My wrists & elbows remind me often.
 

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Always have swung Estwing (40 years). I have a 16 oz rip claw with the leather handle and standard style head along with two others another 16 rip and a 22oz waffle face rip, both with blue grips

I remember that style "English hammer" from long ago and recall having just some "old" wood handle curved claw with that type head back when I was I boy
 

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I've always wanted to pick up one of those, just because it's such an interesting melding of an American manufacturing concept and a classically British pattern, but haven't yet... I already own more hammers than I can use. I'm perpetually surprised and pleased they keep the British pattern in the lineup- I can't imagine they sell a lot of them. Dave, are there many/ any British hammer manufacturers left over there?

Estwings are awesome for demo work and general bashing but miserable for driving nails all day.
 

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The “English” pattern Estwing hammers are part of the Estwing “International” collection of Estwing hammers.
All the “International” Estwing hammers are labelled “made in the USA” and use the standard one piece Estwing forged design.
The International hammers seem to be designed and made for foreign markets were different hammer designs may be more standard.
The bottle stopper head design is more common on English hammers, so Estwing makes the bottle stopper headed hammers fir the UK market.
Latthammers, with a square face and one long pick on the claw are standard in other parts of Europe, such as Germany, so Estwing manufacturers that style of hammer as well.

The International hammers are usually not readily available in the USA, and it’s only occasionally that a US retailer will have them.
I suspect either the hammers are mostly made for export.
Vaughan from what I’ve seen may also have hammers that they mostly make for export as well.

Here is the link for the International hammers page.
https://www.estwing.com/collections/international
 
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We use exactly the same hammer here in Australia, leather grip or blue rubber. I use leather in 24 oz have done for 40 plus years, they truly are a beautiful tool to use. Earlier this year I just had to buy a 30oz milled Estwing when I was in the states, we don't have anything like it here, I'm not sure if I will use it a lot, but it's a very impressive tool
 
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Re: Estwing “English Pattern”

I've always wanted to pick up one of those, just because it's such an interesting melding of an American manufacturing concept and a classically British pattern, but haven't yet... I already own more hammers than I can use. I'm perpetually surprised and pleased they keep the British pattern in the lineup- I can't imagine they sell a lot of them. Dave, are there many/ any British hammer manufacturers left over there?
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I’ve always thought that it was more a question of offering a choice rather than a product for a particular market, but it seems you’re right! I’m glad they do. In that head style they offer regular or rip claws, and of course the blue cushion grip or the leather handle.

The big / dedicated hammer manufacturers over here have all gone. Brades disappeared way back, and Clydesdale Whitehouse more recently. I bought a Whitehouse ball pein hammer for my service bag when I was working in the defence industry in the 90’s. To be honest the quality was nothing like the older hammers. They made the classic mistake of so many British tool manufacturers of trying to compete on price, which they couldn’t. Used ones abound though, and a lot of folks are refurbing them. My local hardware shop tell me they sell far more hammer handles than new hammers!

The next biggest suppliers were always the firms like Stanley and Marples. Marples got amalgamated with Record, and sold to an American firm, who closed all the factories. Stanley obviously took a decision to take their products downmarket, so most of the patterns are still available, but are imported, and the quality is awful. The biggest Sheffield factory lies empty. Spear and Jackson offer hammers, but while some of their tools are British made, I’m sure the hammers are not.

Footprint hammers are fairly readily available. I have 2lb and 3lb ball pein hammers of theirs in my workshop which I bought new. I varnished the handles and polished the heads so they should stay good. My local builders merchant keeps Footprint cold chisels and bolsters, and Footprint club hammers to whack ‘em with!

A firm called Gibson Tools in Leeds seem to offer all the industrial patterns, such as club hammers, sledge hammers, fireman’s axe’s and railway key hammers. They seem to be serviceable.

Other than that, the biggest manufacturer is probably Thorex. They offer just about every variety of soft faced hammer out there, in every weight. Good tools and reasonably priced. I don’t know how other makers sell anything else here. But..., they only offer soft faced tools, not regular hammers!

Most decent tradesman own, or aspire to own, an Estwing, even though they have always been costly here! Nobody in the U.K. is hammering nails all day though. We don’t have timber framed houses, and you can’t afford to have a guy using a manual hammer all day on minimum wage. Air nailers, Gas nailers, Hilti guns, or even screws and a cordless driver, are everywhere!

I have traditional ‘Warrington’ pattern hammers that I use for woodworking, in weight’s from 4oz through to 16oz. Mostly British Stanley or Marples. Own a couple of new condition spares that I’ve bought when available. I have my Grandfathers Whitehouse 20oz claw hammer too, but if I need a claw hammer I generally use my Vaughan. The Estwing might start to take over though!
 
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Dave455

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The “English” pattern Estwing hammers are part of the Estwing “International” collection of Estwing hammers.

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The International hammers are usually not readily available in the USA, and it’s only occasionally that a US retailer will have them.
I suspect either the hammers are mostly made for export.
Vaughan from what I’ve seen may also have hammers that they mostly make for export as well.

Here is the link for the International hammers page.
https://www.estwing.com/collections/international

Thanks for that Neophyte, I never realised they were targeted at the U.K. market. Strangely, I see a lot of Estwing hammers here, but usually the regular pattern!

Definitely a new favourite for me, but I doubt I’ll be doing heavy work with it! Apart from house repairs most of my woodwork seems to be making tool boxes these days!
 

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Thanks Dave455...really dig reading well composed and thoughtful reviews / posts on non US made tools
 

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You don't see many of the English pattern as they generally cost a little more than the normal, so hardly any merchants stock them, the E3-20C is still the most common model sold in the UK I believe, which I'm sure would not be the case in The US.
What is a very rare thing and I have only seen a couple examples on here or Ebay, is a heavier weight long handle straight claw English pattern.
The funny thing about Estwings is the standard 20oz has always cost around £30 in the UK, even back to the 70's from what I have been told, so they are now much cheaper than they used to be.
 

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A 20 oz Estwing straight claw leather handle is my "everyday" hammer. It lives in my tool belt and is an extension of my body.

Yeah. I love THE IDEA OF Estwing hammers, but after one summer of driving 60d nails for curb staking, give me wood or fiberglass handles.

Cool looking hammer, Dave, I just wish I had a use for it.
 

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:thumbup:Nice hammer, I have the standard version. Found it at Lee Valley and just knew it was coming home with me.:lol_hitti
 

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