Everlast mig welders anyone?

[Piper]

I'm in the market for a 230v mig welder. I have a 140c Lincoln for my small stuff, and a HTP invertig for my tig but need something to do the larger stuff. I hadn't heard of the Everlast brand and have been doing some reading about them. I'm wondering if anyone here has one, or used one. I'm thinking of the http://www.everlastwelders.ca/Mig.php welder, either the 205 or the 250.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience with these welders.

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[GirlnAgarage]

Hmm, I've heard of them. I can give you a website where there is a lot of discussion on Everlast.

No first hand experience. I'll PM you the site.

 

[Jim Johnstone]

I'm pretty curious too, as their Canadian office/showroom is 20 minutes from me. The guy from welding tips and tricks seems to like them as far as performance goes, but has no long term reliability info.

 

[RangerDaleXp]

There is a welding website that talks about them a lot and from what I have read has not been good. Mainly due to customer support but I think the welder is made overseas...

 

[dankicksass]

Well color me disappointed, I was hoping Napa had added cheap welders to its cheap tool line.

 

[Piper]

RangerDale that's interesting because what I've read the customer support is really good. I know that the welder is made overseas, and they state that so no biggie there, and they do talk about the real cheap (HF..) companies trying to copy them, but doing a poor job at best. As a Canadian, I like to shop as close to home as possible. I think most people do too. Granted the unit if fabricated overseas, but their Canadian head office is in my same province. I think I'm gonna keep looking at them..

 

[t100]

thou some swear by it, I wouldn't trust Chinese welders, go with either blue or red.

not all "imported" welders are bad, my Lincoln is made in Italy and it kicks ***.

 

[xrdad]

Search the forum on weldweb.com, but don't POST!!! They'll tear you up


I seriously considered the product. The advertising and website look good, the price is fantastic.. but in the end, I was lucky and came across a Lincoln for the right price (140+).

I'd still like to try the Everlast, but I would buy with very low expectations. You won't be out a lot of money if it fails and you might have lots of luck with it?
Make sure to post back with your impressions if you do buy

 

[ptschram]

I have a Longevity and love it!

I also have a "Real Gear" sold by Praxair and love it as well.

 

[Trey T]

Agree. Jody, I believe, is the guy from Welding Tips and Tricks only comment about the result of the welding system and he haven't use it over long period of time to comment about customer service or reliability nor he wants to get into those types of topic.

I'm pretty curious too, as their Canadian office/showroom is 20 minutes from me. The guy from welding tips and tricks seems to like them as far as performance goes, but has no long term reliability info.

 

[Trey T]

I'm thinking of investing in their mig 205P with pulse. The heat capacity(amerage) is in a different class with Miller and Lincoln and may gear toward a group of users different than Miller and Lincoln.

Anybody got one and want to share their experience withe quality of the product and customer service?

 

[TozziWelding]

Don't do it, save your money and buy a good new or used American(or ESAB) made machine that has support. I use my welding machines to make a living so I may be biased, but cheap tools are cheap tools.

 

[malibu101]

..........
I use my welding machines to make a living so I may be biased, but cheap tools are cheap tools.

I've heard this before- "Good tools are expensive and cheap tools are false economy."
For the most part it is right. You get what you pay for.

 

[RangerDaleXp]

RangerDale that's interesting because what I've read the customer support is really good. I know that the welder is made overseas, and they state that so no biggie there, and they do talk about the real cheap (HF..) companies trying to copy them, but doing a poor job at best. As a Canadian, I like to shop as close to home as possible. I think most people do too. Granted the unit if fabricated overseas, but their Canadian head office is in my same province. I think I'm gonna keep looking at them..

All I know is what I have read over there on Welding web.com. A lot of people have ordered the Everlast and Longevity welders and have had lots of DOAs and customer support problems, way more then I would like but it is your money. The only overseas welder I have had good luck with is the NT135.

 

[Trey T]

Well, I gotta understand the product first. I don't like to bark on some product w/o knowing about it.

Everlast 205P MIG $1200
Miller 350P MIG $4500

Neglecting the amperage rating, $3000 difference is worth the time spent for anybody trying to understand the product and the company, dont you think?

Don't do it, save your money and buy a good new or used American(or ESAB) made machine that has support. I use my welding machines to make a living so I may be biased, but cheap tools are cheap tools.

 

[Trey T]

A lot meaning a couple ppl or you're just exaggerating?

All I know is what I have read over there on Welding web.com. A lot of people have ordered the Everlast and Longevity welders and have had lots of DOAs and customer support problems, way more then I would like but it is your money. The only overseas welder I have had good luck with is the NT135.

 

[Zebu Fellenz]

Well, I gotta understand the product first. I don't like to bark on some product w/o knowing about it.

Everlast 205P MIG $1200
Miller 350P MIG $4500

Neglecting the amperage rating, $3000 difference is worth the time spent for anybody trying to understand the product and the company, dont you think?

Where do you see a 205P? Only one I see on their website is an I-MIG 205 for $1,100.

Doing a quick comparison of duty cycle at different current levels it appears this machine is most closely matched to the Miller 211 which retails for under $1,300.

A 200A machine is in no real way comparable to a 350A pulse Mig, it's apples to oranges, only similarity is that they both stick metal together.

Yes the Everlast welders are cheaper, but they're nowhere $3k cheaper for the same capabilities.

 

[RangerDaleXp]

A lot meaning a couple ppl or you're just exaggerating?

I am not going to get into a ******* contest with you on this subject. Go there and do a search and a little reading first. It is more then just a few people....

I you feel real brave, start another thread on the everlast subject on there web site, but put your flame suit on, you will need it....

 

[RangerDaleXp]

I will say this on a side note, I have not had much to do with that site in over a year so all of my reading on the product in question would not be current and things could have changed in a year.....

 

[ibedayank]

call everlast and try to order parts for a 50 year old welder....


now do the same with both lincoln and miller
and thats all im gonna say!!!

 

[TozziWelding]

call everlast and try to order parts for a 50 year old welder....


now do the same with both lincoln and miller
and thats all im gonna say!!!

LMAO, I have a 50 year old Lincoln SA-200 and can still get parts for it And I can run it HARD for days on end

 

[Trey T]

It's 250P and it has pulse feature/technology and MSRP is $1500. Pulse feature is ~$2500 difference with Miller's line up.

Like I said earlier, different heat rating than lincoln and miller 350A pulse MIG. That's bc the two companies, industry standard, don't have anything in the 200A with pulse listed.

I'm not here to dog anybody. I'm here to learn whats best for $$. For anybody to bark on Everlast w/o experience is just a troll on the interweb.

I never said the same capabilities although my intent that they have similar features and I did state some of the main differences. So give me a break.

Where do you see a 205P? Only one I see on their website is an I-MIG 205 for $1,100.

Doing a quick comparison of duty cycle at different current levels it appears this machine is most closely matched to the Miller 211 which retails for under $1,300.

A 200A machine is in no real way comparable to a 350A pulse Mig, it's apples to oranges, only similarity is that they both stick metal together.

Yes the Everlast welders are cheaper, but they're nowhere $3k cheaper for the same capabilities.

 

[Trey T]

This is the problem. NOBODY IS DOGGIN' ON THE TWO INDUSTRIES WELDING MACHINES. Some ppl like me and the OP believes that it's a good chance that a new company like Everlast can come with a decent welding system. THATS ALL!!!

LMAO, I have a 50 year old Lincoln SA-200 and can still get parts for it And I can run it HARD for days on end

 

[t100]

I've heard nothing but good about HTP welders. I've ordered parts for other welders from them, their stuff is always in stock, good quality and quick shipping.

 

[ptschram]

Don't do it, save your money and buy a good new or used American(or ESAB) made machine that has support. I use my welding machines to make a living so I may be biased, but cheap tools are cheap tools.

I bought a used American made plasma.

It's being repaired for the third or fourth time.

My Longevity OTOH has failed once and I called them on a Friday and had a new board on Monday.

 

[ptschram]

This is the problem. NOBODY IS DOGGIN' ON THE TWO INDUSTRIES WELDING MACHINES. Some ppl like me and the OP believes that it's a good chance that a new company like Everlast can come with a decent welding system. THATS ALL!!!

Then again, "I" have one of these welders (I'm assuming they are identical, if not, very nearly so).

My personal experience has been positive.

 

[AlchemyMetalworks]

I have the Everlast Power I-Mig 250P and the Power Plasma 80. I've used them both at least once a week and almost every weekend since I've gotten them. I've had nothing but excellent results with them.

They use standard consumables and I have been able to get parts for the Power Plasma 80 through Gases Plus (I had a board with some loose connections). It took me 2 weeks to receive it, but once I got them it was plug & play, no problems since.

I've used Lincoln, Miller AND Esab equipment at work. I'd put my machine against them in a like-for-like situation. If I was going to use them in a more industrial setting, I'd opt for one of the bigger 3-phase machines.

I'm happy for the guys who make more money than me, or have more expendable income to purchase "red & blue", but it's not necessary to be brand-loyal to find good equipment at a less expensive price.

 

[blue dog]

I'm happy for the guys who make more money than me, or have more expendable income to purchase "red & blue", but it's not necessary to be brand-loyal to find good equipment at a less expensive price.

if you are patient, you will find good machines for good prices on Craigslist, hence my miller 252 score for $1200.00, brand new machine with minimal hours in perfect condition, big step up from my 210.

 

[AlchemyMetalworks]

if you are patient, you will find good machines for good prices on Craigslist, hence my miller 252 score for $1200.00, brand new machine with minimal hours in perfect condition, big step up from my 210.

It's not always about "patience", sometimes it's about need & availability. I have to allocate my resources smartly.

My Everlast welder and plasma cutter were worthy of that investment.

I support companies that support ME. If they have to rely on rabid fanboyism and nostalgia to maintain their lead in the market, they aren't competitive.

Don't knock what you haven't tried. I OWN these machines, I've USED other machines. I KNOW what they are capable of. Anything less is corporate sponsorship that YOU paid for.

 

[ibedayank]

everlast is NOT a company...they do not make anything .... all they do is ship...that is ALL...end of story

ask around on and you will find TONS of people that can NOT get the machine repaired because noone makes parts for it after neverlast decides to discontinue that model.....


I would LOVE to see a everlast run head to head in a factory against a lincoln or miller 24-7-365 and see just how long it would last...

 

[AlchemyMetalworks]

everlast is NOT a company...they do not make anything .... all they do is ship...that is ALL...end of story

ask around on and you will find TONS of people that can NOT get the machine repaired because noone makes parts for it after neverlast decides to discontinue that model.....


I would LOVE to see a everlast run head to head in a factory against a lincoln or miller 24-7-365 and see just how long it would last...

And you KNOW this how? You heard it on the internet...right?

I HAVE repaired my machine AND gotten parts. Whether that makes me lucky or not, it means that I believe my EXPERIENCE more than their blind ranting. Perhaps they are too stupid to figure out how to find parts, since they are capable of "welding" but need someone to hold their hand in order to get service.

As to running the equipment in a factory...go buy the equipment and do the comparo. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT.

Someone was asking for comments from people who have actually USED them. I have...I OWN two of their products. That makes MY opinion far more valid than the unproven conjecture being thrown about on this thread.

 

[ibedayank]

And you KNOW this how? You heard it on the internet...right?

I HAVE repaired my machine AND gotten parts. Whether that makes me lucky or not, it means that I believe my EXPERIENCE more than their blind ranting. Perhaps they are too stupid to figure out how to find parts, since they are capable of "welding" but need someone to hold their hand in order to get service.

As to running the equipment in a factory...go buy the equipment and do the comparo. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT.

Someone was asking for comments from people who have actually USED them. I have...I OWN two of their products. That makes MY opinion far more valid than the unproven conjecture being thrown about on this thread.

we will see in 15 years what you have to say about them.....
go to where your welder is shipped from....boxes stacked on boxes...no pallet racks and nothing but a folding table to ""test"" welders....pictures posted by everlast themselfs on a forum sponsered by THEM...

you stick to your foreign made in china welder.....i will buy from my local shop where if i need help when i am in a jam they will help me.... why would they help you it's not like you help them stay in buisness


and yet you ***** because of all the tool makers are having stuff made overseas....its because of people like YOU

 

[AlchemyMetalworks]

we will see in 15 years what you have to say about them.....
go to where your welder is shipped from....boxes stacked on boxes...no pallet racks and nothing but a folding table to ""test"" welders....pictures posted by everlast themselfs on a forum sponsered by THEM...

you stick to your foreign made in china welder.....i will buy from my local shop where if i need help when i am in a jam they will help me.... why would they help you it's not like you help them stay in buisness

In 15 years if they are still working, they are still working. If they aren't then I'll be able to buy new ones that outlast me.

I don't have alot of money, I make alot of my own equipment to get me through...it's called boot-strapping. For the price difference between new "red & blue" or the Everlast, I was able to purchase materials to make a mini skid-steer. I then used my Everlast welder & plasma cutter to BUILD my mini skid-steer. Have you ever BUILT your own equipment?

Different strokes for different folks...you have more money than me, good for you. You enjoy supporting a company that happens to be based in the USA, good for you. I spend my money on things I need to get me by. I don't have tool-box bling or a big fancy garage with epoxy floors. My concrete has oil stains and spatter marks from welding...it works for me.

For what it's worth, I purchased my Everlast equipment FROM Gases Plus. So yeah, I DID support my local business. It doesn't mean that you're MORE patriotic than me or better than me. Just doing it differently.

 

[ibedayank]

AlchemyMetalworks

hate to say this but im sure i have less money than you do... most of my tools i buy used
wanted a recumbent bike...well can't afford one so i am making it with free bikes that others no longer wanted compareable bike...$1500 or more..... my cost when completed i will have spent less than $100

 

[AlchemyMetalworks]

and yet you ***** because of all the tool makers are having stuff made overseas....its because of people like YOU

You're right...it's all MY fault. It's not the company officers who move production overseas, have a lesser product made and charge the same price or more...it's me having to live within my means that causes that.

Buying "American" or any other propaganda does NOT support the WORKER...it supports the company bottom line. The corporate officers decide how to run a company, not the customers.

Profit is all that matters to companies...not their workers, not their customers.

What matters to me is getting the biggest bang for my limited buck. I'm supposed to go in debt or go without to support THEM? They could figure out how to be more competitive and lower their prices.

 

[AlchemyMetalworks]

AlchemyMetalworks

hate to say this but im sure i have less money than you do... most of my tools i buy used
wanted a recumbent bike...well can't afford one so i am making it with free bikes that others no longer wanted compareable bike...$1500 or more..... my cost when completed i will have spent less than $100

Well make sure you only use vintage USA made bikes, otherwise you'll be guilty of hypocrisy.

Wouldn't want your cobbled together recumbent bike to be made from affordable, possibly Chinese made bikes. That would be horrible!

 

[ibedayank]

Well make sure you only use vintage USA made bikes, otherwise you'll be guilty of hypocrisy.

Wouldn't want your cobbled together recumbent bike to be made from affordable, possibly Chinese made bikes. That would be horrible!

where do you think mongoose...huffy...gt...specialized and all most every other bike is made now? me im keeping the landfills cleaner..

 

[ptschram]

you stick to your foreign made in china welder.....i will buy from my local shop where if i need help when i am in a jam they will help me.... why would they help you it's not like you help them stay in buisness

I'll bet a pile of money you're using a Chinese computer to type your rants.

I bought my "Real Gear" welder from a joint venture of Praxair, my local welding supply house. When I went in to buy a tank of Argon and Tri-Mix, the guy behind the counter welcomed me by asking if I'd come to buy materials to use with my new welder I'd just bought form another part of their company.

Both of my Chi-Com pieces have paid for themselves a coupla times over doing the job I bought them specifically to do. If they lasted no longer, I got my money's worth out of them! I bought the plasma because I had gotten badly stuck in the mud with a job cutting and trimming pieces of metal with a torch and cut-off wheel. I finished the job shortly after getting the plasma as I could cut pieces in a small fraction of the time it was taking me previously.

Again, my American-made plasma STILL doesn't work and has been in the shop far more than it's been in my shop.

 

[AlchemyMetalworks]

PTSCHRAM...

I'm not here to bash USA or China made products, I've gotten a rash of **** for defending certain HF tools I've purchased & used.

I'm merely trying to let the OP know that I own two Everlast products and they work great. That's my experience. I'm not trying to pick "sides" as the only side I care about is mine & other customers.

They are a good value machine for the type of work that a hobbyist or welder doing side jobs would do. I've welded everything from 1/2" plate running continuous beads to 12 gauge sheet to 1/4" tubing AND repaired a crack in my aluminum duck boat. It handled it all just fine with no problems or issues.

 

[ibedayank]

I'll bet a pile of money you're using a Chinese computer to type your rants.

I bought my "Real Gear" welder from a joint venture of Praxair, my local welding supply house. When I went in to buy a tank of Argon and Tri-Mix, the guy behind the counter welcomed me by asking if I'd come to buy materials to use with my new welder I'd just bought form another part of their company.

Both of my Chi-Com pieces have paid for themselves a coupla times over doing the job I bought them specifically to do. If they lasted no longer, I got my money's worth out of them! I bought the plasma because I had gotten badly stuck in the mud with a job cutting and trimming pieces of metal with a torch and cut-off wheel. I finished the job shortly after getting the plasma as I could cut pieces in a small fraction of the time it was taking me previously.

Again, my American-made plasma STILL doesn't work and has been in the shop far more than it's been in my shop.

and ill bet you im not....mine is from 1995 and says gateway P5-100