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garagebandman

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Hi,

I am considering buying a steel building for a music studio. Was going to go with a Tuffsheds wooden structure, but since it looks like I am going to have to finish the interior anyway, the steel ones are much cheaper.

Someone recommended Carolina Carports, and I've also heard from a company called Eversafe.

Any opinions on which are the better products? Would be interested in any other recommendations also.


Thanks,

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These people produce a very good product. They are Florida-based, and will help you make an informed decision. I would spec something above the minimum-acceptable. Are you in a HVHZ-rated area? 'high velocity hurricane zone'

http://www.deansteelbuildings.com/

Another choice might be a Lark building. They also meet the HVHZ rating. Steel frame, PT plywood sheathing, topped-by Hardi-Board siding. I have one the size of a 1-car, and am very happy with it. It has a metal roof. https://www.larkbuilders.com/ I have it wired with a 100 amp panel, and have a Pioneer mini-split ready to install.
 

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These people produce a very good product. They are Florida-based, and will help you make an informed decision. I would spec something above the minimum-acceptable. Are you in a HVHZ-rated area? 'high velocity hurricane zone'


Another choice might be a Lark building. They also meet the HVHZ rating. Steel frame, PT plywood sheathing, topped-by Hardi-Board siding. I have one the size of a 1-car, and am very happy with it. It has a metal roof. I have it wired with a 100 amp panel, and have a Pioneer mini-split ready to install.

Thanks. Very nice of you to reply. I will look at the information you included a little later this evening. I appreciate it.


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@driftpin

Do you know whether either of the companies you mentioned will deliver and assemble the buildings.

btw, I'm talking about a building about 24' wide x 36-40' long, with 14' high sidewalls. Something like that.

What about the Carolina Carports and Eversafe stuff? Any good?


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OK, from your reply, it sounds like the Dean Building is for you. Contact them to determine what they can and will do as-far as assembly. A friend of mine had one built, about 12,000 sq.ft. for a retail aftermarket motorcycle parts business. It has a mezzanine 1 b.r. apartment for living quarters. The entire building is insulated and air-conditioned. I estimate the height at 20 ft. Another friend was the GC for the construction. Dean has a very good product. The building is over 10 years old and he has had no problems with it.
 
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One thing I'm worried about with these metal buildings generally is how waterproof they are. The ones I've seen say that they are, but I can see daylight at the seams at the top of the sidewalls. And I've heard stories about weather getting in at the bottom because they don't fit flush tight to the concrete slab. How are you all overcoming those issues?


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You said it was for a 'studio'.....Steel buildings can be LOUD when it's raining outside......

Yeah, that's a drag, but pretty much any building is loud when it really rains hard. It seems to me that insulating and finishing the inside of a metal building will help. What's best for quieting the roof?


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I think especially for your purpose you should go with as wood framed building and not a steel roof. Steel will be way louder and it will effect your studio usage.
 

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When he said "Tuff Shed," and I thought of the Home Depot products, I assumed a pretty-small footprint. A couple of years ago, after I began looking at south Florida products for premanufactured buildings, I looked at Tuff Sheds, Superior Sheds, and Lark Sheds.

What sold me on the Lark product was the galvanized steel framing, the PT underlayment siding, vapor barrier, and Hardi-Board finish siding. It just seemed like a better-spec'ed product, capable of resisting the deterioration that T 1-11 inevitably undergoes in a humid environment. It also met the HVHZ-high velocity hurricane zone requirement of the Florida Building Code for my location.

For sealing the 2 x 6 PT boards to the slab, I used a double bead of silicone caulk before letting-down the building onto the slab. I've been through a year, and I've never had any water intrusion under the building walls. Planning the slab so the walls overhang the sides of the slab helps.

My friend's Dean steel building, I've never seen any daylight on the building, between the walls and the roof, or anywhere-else. The whole thing is well-insulated, I've been in it for 'frog-choker' deluges, and I didn't feel as-though it was any-louder than another industrial construction. While wood is a likely choice in other parts of the country, something like a steel building or Hardi-Board will withstand the deterioration which wood is susceptible to, seems like a better long-term solution. You should contact Dean Steel Buildings, they should be able to answer your questions. You could even probably arrange a trip to their factory to see for yourself how they are manufactured.

I've had contact from another GJ member on here who has had a long-time experience with the Dean Steel Building products, and he has decades of knowledge of their durability, utility, potential issues, and value, along-with comments on doing business with them. He gave them an enthusiastic 'thumbs-up,' across the board, and I respect this member's opinion.

What's the cost of what you want to build? That's part of your bidding process. How-much work you can do yourself, and what kind of bids you get for the work you want to farm-out. You might be able to narrow things down a bit by telling us where you live, and the overall size of what you want to build/have-built. What types of finishes, methods of construction, electrical, plumbing, mechanical (air-conditioned?). My particular circumstance was budget, and what the local AHJ (authority having jurisdiction) was willing to allow to be built, under the zoning ordinances. Are you under a county government or a city, and what is your zoning? All these things matter to being able to make an informed decision.
 
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When he said "Tuff Shed," and I thought of the Home Depot products, I assumed a pretty-small footprint. A couple of years ago, after I began looking at south Florida products for premanufactured buildings, I looked at Tuff Sheds, Superior Sheds, and Lark Sheds.

What sold me on the Lark product was the galvanized steel framing, the PT underlayment siding, vapor barrier, and Hardi-Board finish siding. It just seemed like a better-spec'ed product, capable of resisting the deterioration that T 1-11 inevitably undergoes in a humid environment. It also met the HVHZ-high velocity hurricane zone requirement of the Florida Building Code for my location.

For sealing the 2 x 6 PT boards to the slab, I used a double bead of silicone caulk before letting-down the building onto the slab. I've been through a year, and I've never had any water intrusion under the building walls. Planning the slab so the walls overhang the sides of the slab helps.

My friend's Dean steel building, I've never seen any daylight on the building, between the walls and the roof, or anywhere-else. The whole thing is well-insulated, I've been in it for 'frog-choker' deluges, and I didn't feel as-though it was any-louder than another industrial construction. While wood is a likely choice in other parts of the country, something like a steel building or Hardi-Board will withstand the deterioration which wood is susceptible to, seems like a better long-term solution. You should contact Dean Steel Buildings, they should be able to answer your questions. You could even probably arrange a trip to their factory to see for yourself how they are manufactured.

I've had contact from another GJ member on here who has had a long-time experience with the Dean Steel Building products, and he has decades of knowledge of their durability, utility, potential issues, and value, along-with comments on doing business with them. He gave them an enthusiastic 'thumbs-up,' across the board, and I respect this member's opinion.

What's the cost of what you want to build? That's part of your bidding process. How-much work you can do yourself, and what kind of bids you get for the work you want to farm-out. You might be able to narrow things down a bit by telling us where you live, and the overall size of what you want to build/have-built. What types of finishes, methods of construction, electrical, plumbing, mechanical (air-conditioned?). My particular circumstance was budget, and what the local AHJ (authority having jurisdiction) was willing to allow to be built, under the zoning ordinances. Are you under a county government or a city, and what is your zoning? All these things matter to being able to make an informed decision.

I was looking at the Tuffsheds direct sales stuff. Good product but hard company to work with and pricey.

I don't want to spend a lot of money, and I want the money to go into size. I just need it to be waterproof and capable of being finished on the interior and insulated. It will need electrical and plumbing.

I really want some opinions on the Carolina Carports and Eversafe Buildings, as they are reasonably priced and they deliver and assemble the things.

I spoke to someone at Dean Buildings and they do not assemble here. They are also expensive and, from what I could understand through the guy's accent, nothing really different than any other metal shed. They don't have a configurator online or anything like that, so I was just going by what the sales "consultant" was saying. Nice enough guy, but they definitely don't do any assembly, except through some sort of "other division" and only within a small area from where they are located. I'm in Brevard county.

I am not looking to do work myself. I will probably have to get a contractor or subs for the concrete, electrical, and plumbing, and to do the insulation / drywall.

As I said in a previous post, I'm thinking about 24' x 36-40' x 14', or so.

I have heard others talk about pouring the slab slightly smaller than the building, but it seems to me that water would just wick up that way, dunno.

The Carolina Carports and Eversafe stuff is hurricane certified, and no issues with the county or any of that.


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garagebandman
 
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