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rmanrman

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I'm thinking that these consumer dehumidifiers from china have a death switch to purge the freon every two years. I've tried 4 different brands and all are ****
i'm in northern nj and summers are humid tired of cleaning rust off of tools
Is there anyone who has tried a commercial stand alone dehumidifier under $1K
that has lasted say 5years ? I do not have any ducts in my home to hook into hot water BB heat. Thanks
 
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I have one that's 20 years old and i'm quite certain it still works. I replaced it with a better unit so i havent touched it in a couple years. I'm sure there will be lots of suggestions of a mini-split.
 

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I experienced the same thing with a number of dehumidifiers - most at the beginning of the second year. I now only buy them at Costco and return them for full credit when they fail. Having worked with Costco on the supply side, I know that they charge the vendors back. They used to carry Danby but the last one I bought there two years ago was a Whirlpool - it's still percolating.

Buckaroo
 

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I've had the best luck with Danby's... getting 4-5 years out of them.
Other brands I've tried maybe last for 2 years.
 

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If it has a air filter/screen in the air intake make sure its clean. Didnt even know mine had one until there was know air flow one day.
 

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Yep! These things are definitely consumable products. Best plan is to budget for a new one every two years. Even if the things do keep "running" they seem to lose performance rapidly after 2 years.
 

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This is one item were an extended warranty maybe beneficial. Although, I have had good luck with the manufacturer standing behind the 5 year warranty for the compressor.

Jay
 

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Bought a Frigidaire about 4 years ago. 50 pint model. Wemt to fire it up this year and got the dreaded 'FO" error code. Troubleshot it as best I could, i.e. proper voltage at outlet, screen clean, etc. Still won't remove the moisture. I have to check the paperwork as I seem to remember it having a 5 yr compressor warranty, as well. Plus, I paid with credit card which adds an extra year. It cost around $250 new and was highly rated as far as consumer models go. But, my research pretty much showed what we are all experiencing....these things just don't last beyond a few years. These days, not much of anything does, it seems
 

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Most dehumidifiers are not designed to be run below 70F. If you're using such a unit in cooler weather, you'll trash it quickly. Look for the minimum temperature spec.
 

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My parents have an Amana dehumifidier built probably in the early 80s that they still are using to this day. Obviously something was done better in those days.
 

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Search "dehumidifier" on GJ and you will find this same thread repeated over and over again. Old units last forever, and new stuff lasts anywhere from 2-5 years. Spending over $500 seems to be the only way to get yourself more then 5 years out of a unit.

The term "throw away" applies to pretty much everything new from an appliance standpoint.
 

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When you read those old posts .........take note those $1000-2000 commercial units don’t have a great service history either. Don’t think running a large commercial unit in a 1500-2000 sqft basement makes sense.

3-5 years is the new norm. Menards sells Soleus 45 pint on sale with rebate for $100. If they last 3-5 years that’s less than $30 per year. Three year warranty on part labor and 5 year on compressor. They work down to 41* as most units do now. Soleus has larger models but I going with 45 pint to cover 1500-1800 sqft. I don’t buy the $300/400 units anymore. My prior units Name brand all failed just out of warranty.

I run a basement and detached shop dehumidifier but watch the humidity levels and run them when sustained 60% level are present. Dehumidifier will drop that level to the target level of 40-45% . Both run most of the summer months.

As far as whole house dehumidifiers........yes it’s called AC. But I don’t need whole house AC running all the time in my location. If I run the whole house AC, I turn the basement dehumidifier off.

Desiccant Dehumidifier are fairly new on the market. Service history is not perfect. Maybe with time, it will be some a better option.
 
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I recently had a dehumidifier that was giving me some trouble. So I thought it can't hurt if I took it apart and inspect everything. What I found was the coil was dirty, sludge in the pan that collects the water, overall just nasty and needed a good cleaning. So I took my time and cleaned it all up and reassembled it. Put a few drops of oil on the fan shaft to maybe get it down in the bearing and when I fired it back up it worked perfectly.

Something to look into before just going to buy another unit.
 

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Consumer models aren't designed to run continuously so if you're like me and have one running in your basement most of the time it's only going to last a couple of years. My brother has one of the large upright professional models that was installed by a basement waterproofing company and it works quite well but was significantly more expensive than the sub-$300 ones I get at Walmart.

It really comes down to duty cycle - if you need one for a basement, crawlspace or garage that will run most of the time you need a professional model built for that purpose. If you only need one occasionally then a box store consumer model will work fine.
 

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My parents have an Amana dehumifidier built probably in the early 80s that they still are using to this day. Obviously something was done better in those days.

Well, it's a tradeoff. Older dehumidifiers had no fins on the coil, so they were horribly inefficient electrically. The cost of a new and more energy efficient unit is easily paid for over the aforementioned two year lifetime in electrical savings. But in any case, I've gotten 12 years out of my last one, which is still ok.
 

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OP Define dead ?

Mine have been going for 5-6 years fine... granted that I had to disassemble the shells and clean the caked dust off with garden hose and soapy water two years ago... for some reason my place is dusty... It is still running strong ... bucket of water a day on the most humid days...

Now if I had not clean it... it would just puff warm air, and not taken any humidity out of the air...

Its actually on a recall list few years back for fire hazard without any other details, would I blame China... No it's the bad design...
 

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I recently had a dehumidifier that was giving me some trouble. So I thought it can't hurt if I took it apart and inspect everything. What I found was the coil was dirty, sludge in the pan that collects the water, overall just nasty and needed a good cleaning. So I took my time and cleaned it all up and reassembled it. Put a few drops of oil on the fan shaft to maybe get it down in the bearing and when I fired it back up it worked perfectly.

Something to look into before just going to buy another unit.

I did the same thing a few years ago, but I wasn't so lucky. Had to replace that unit which was over ten years old easily, and now waiting for the new one to **** out much faster...
 
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Consumer models aren't designed to run continuously so if you're like me and have one running in your basement most of the time it's only going to last a couple of years. My brother has one of the large upright professional models that was installed by a basement waterproofing company and it works quite well but was significantly more expensive than the sub-$300 ones I get at Walmart.

It really comes down to duty cycle - if you need one for a basement, crawlspace or garage that will run most of the time you need a professional model built for that purpose. If you only need one occasionally then a box store consumer model will work fine.


A few companies are addressing the duty cycle issue

http://www.soleusna.com/index.php?page=tri-pat

One issue with larger and commercial units is power use. A right size unit might consume 400 watts and over sized commercial units can be 1400 watts. More air flow and flow over the coils is the answer to efficiency. Similar to right sizing whole AC or furnace.

Right size is function of sqft and humidity levels.
 
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I bought one at an appliance store, it lasted less than a year, it still had warranty so the manufacturer sent me a new one (I had to pay to dispose of bad unit). That one is probably five years old now so I better start shopping for a new one. It is used in the winter, but not continuously in any season. I have read that there aren't too many manufacturers just names.
 

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I just junked a soleus from Menards the other day. It is 5 years old, but quit working 3 years ago. I really needed one right now, so I borrowed one from the shop. Maybe I'll get my next one for the house from Costco.
 

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Most dehumidifiers are not designed to be run below 70F. If you're using such a unit in cooler weather, you'll trash it quickly. Look for the minimum temperature spec.

mine has a minimum temp of 34F
 

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I'm in the market for another one. Looking at the specs of various models, it seems many boast an operating temp down to 41 degrees. I'm wondering if that's correct. My cellar seems to be around 60. I only buy extended warranties for appliances, and this will be one of them.
 

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Im in the same boat. Just purchased a new GE 70 pint last week for $350. Last Frigidaire lasted 3 years. From my research they all really come from one of two places and they are all equally peices of junk that you are lucky to get 2-3 years out of them. I have been lucky that most of mine have been recalled due to fire issues and ive been given 2 or 3 new ones due just to recalls. Definitely worth the time registering these.
 

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My local newspaper has a consumer products writer, and today his article is about dehumidifiers. The gist of the story is what people have been saying here...they don't make them like they used to.

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Wet summer warrants a reliable dehumidifier

Buying a used model is not recommended due to a large number of recalls .

By JOHN EWOLDT [email protected]

It has been a wet spring and some weather forecasting models are predicting a cool, wet summer. That could tax any dehumidifier, except the older ones.

Consumers are finding that models 20 years or older last years longer than the ones built after 2005. Many of the older, energy-inefficient models are still in use today. And they are performing better than a model purchased only a year or two ago that may already be fit for recycling.

The number of dehumidifiers shipped in the U.S. in 2017 and 2018, about 2.4 million units each year, has doubled since 2011 and 2012 when about 1.2 million units were shipped, according to the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers (AHAM) . Part of that increase in shipments over the past 15 years may also be due to climate change, according to an AHAM spokesperson.

Some consumers think the fault of the shorter life span lies in newer energy-efficiency standards, but one appliance expert said it’s more than that. “The whole product is built cheap,” said John Zeien, co-owner of J.R.’s Advanced Recyclers in Inver Grove Heights. “It develops a small hole in the system, the Freon leaks out, and it costs more to fix it than replace it.”

That leaves consumers with few good choices to keep a damp house dry unless they have an older model. Many new dehumidifiers cost between $200 and $300 but last only one or two years.

What can be done about it? Consumers can always look at online reviews, but most only discuss an appliance’s immediate performance. It’s more important to check reviews for models that have put in a year or two of service.

Best Buy’s reviewers and Consumer Reports have liked select models by Frigidaire and Whynter.

Consumer Reports recently recommended two small-capacity units, the Frigidaire FAD301NWD for $180 and Whynter RPD-321EW. Both 30-pint units are available at Bestbuy.com. Larger units that get high marks are the 50 pint Frigidaire FAD504DWDE ($210) and the 70 pint Insignia NS-DH70WH9 ($225).

Rarely do consumer experts recommend buying an extended warranty, but short-timer dehumidifiers may be an exception. Best Buy’s Geek Squad warranties on dehumidifiers are $35 for two years and $65 for four years.

Another option is to buy a dehumidifier from Costco, which has a liberal return policy. Nonmembers of Costco can also make purchases at Costco.com and pay slightly more. Keep the box, accessories and receipt for easier return.

Consumers can also use the manufacturer’s warranty, which is usually one year. Free replacement within one year may be offered. After 12 months, a buyer may be responsible for shipping, parts or labor costs.

Buying a used dehumidifier is not generally recommended for several reasons. It’s difficult to know if a unit at a garage sale is working properly, for example. More important, 6 million units were recalled in 2017 due to fire danger, according to the Consumer Products Safety Commission.

For a list of models recalled check the commission’s website at cpsc.gov. Many manufacturers of dehumidifiers have experienced recalls in recent years. Consumers may be eligible for a partial refund, a full refund or a replacement model, depending on the manufacturer.

To make a dehumidifier last longer, clean the filter as often as recommended. Some Frigidaire units have a “clean filter” indicator light. Check the owner’s manual or call the manufacturer if a filter is not apparent. Occasionally vacuum the outside of the unit for any dust accumulation.
 

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Whats the deal with what im about costco. Is it really that easy to return whatever you want like 5 years down the road?
 

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To get better efficiencies -- the tubing needs to be thinner. Better thermal transfer -- everything has to meet energy standards. Also, the newer units run at higher pressures -- thin tubing higher pressure ... toss in making them as cheap as possible.

The older units did last longer -- but, they also used more energy.

I have Santa Fe (no tank) -- it's one of the smaller "professional grade" units on the market. I have used them in various places -- they really work well as they can remove a lot of water. The tank units can't remove as much ..... I had two tank units years ago running all the time .. and the Santa Fe was able to remove all the moisture and start to cycle.

One did die out of warranty -- they sent me another one - no charge. w/ free return shipping for the dead one. My most recent one had a defrost thermostat die last year -- 5 years old -- they sent me the part -- again no charge. It's a good company.

If you have a small tank unit and it does the job .. and shuts off ... it's most likely not worth going to an expensive unit. I noticed a sizable drop in electric when I got the Santa Fe
 
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In 1968 my grandfather purchased a brand new Berns Air King Electric Dehumidifier, which has been in use by our extended family for 8 to 9 nine months out of every year since then.

In 51 years of operation, gramps cleaned and maintained it for the first 24, after which I took over doing it for the next 14, followed by my brother for the last 13.

This USA made appliance was obviously designed and built to last, before the sordid practice of planned obsolescence came to dominate.
 

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I havent had any trouble with the compressors but with mine its always been the fan that quits. I take the motor apart clean it and put a few drops of oil on the shaft. But a month later is ceases up again, tried different oils but same thing. So I changed out the fan motor with a ball bearing fan motor the kind you can get at the surplus store, I call them industrial panel fans. there about 8-10'' dia and maybe 2'' thick 5-10$ . Problem solved. Been running the same dehumidifier now for 5-6 plus yrs now with the modification. BCD
 

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I don't mean to derail this thread, but my dehumidifier is 3 years old. The specs say it will operate down to 41 degrees, (seems like a lot of them claim this). My cellar is 60 degrees and the compressor won't kick on. I took the unit into my garage, (much warmer) fired it up and it worked fine. Is this inability to operate at a lower temp a result of age or am I missing something? Refrigeration/air conditioning knowledge is something I lack.
Thanks
 
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The tools that rust the most are workbench and pegboard areas
My floor drill press base and table need frequent cleaning and oiling
Btw my mother has a basement Dehumidifier with wood grain case bought in the late 1970’s working right now and never serviced. My statement of “Everything is made like **** “. The other hidden cost is getting the Freon evacuation to get a certificate for my town to pick up! There is no Freon it all leaked out another BS scam for the town.
 

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Like the news article above mentions, buy an extended warranty. I use the 70 pint models(around $300). The warranty cost about $80 for 4 years. I have never had one last that long. So I just pay $80 for 4 years and get 1 or 2 new dehumidifiers for that price.

I've been doing this for around 17 years now.
 

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That would be very special ... even the professional ones don't work that cold.

it's a desiccant wheel instead of compressor unit. so long as water is wet it works. once it goes solid it has problems.

I have a couple of compressor units around. I take them apart every few years and wash it out with a garden hose. keeps the coils clean. what a pain they are to disassemble.
 
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I have a Frigidaire that just quit, 3 years old emailed them with the code EC and they are sending me a new one, should be on the way next week.

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Want my old one? It worked fine for more years than I can count and was still working when I took it out of service when I installed a mini split.

I'm in NJ, too. It's yours for the taking if you want to come get it.

Tommy
 

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I have 2 Oasis D165HG. One is almost 40 years old, has never missed a beat. The other about 10 years, also flawless. The model number may not be correct on the oldest one, but they are the same units. You will pay more, they are rarely discounted, but you won't be disappointed. No digital motherboard, simple analog dial. Works well in cold garage too.

Expect to pay $550-$650ish. Yes, a lot of money, but the 2 Kenmore / LG units I had before buying the second Oasis wound up costing me more than the Oasis. I should have gotten that first, I already knew how good they were.

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