Everything you need to know about bench vises...

[Roof]

Had the Same vise it has only the one locking nut but has two hole to allow for differen rotation on the swivel if memory serves me correct


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[Outlawmws]

CT, you **** for getting that particular Craftsman model for free. thats arguably the most desirable vice family Craftsman aver made.

Definitely post it in the "vises of GJ thread and before and after as well!

 

[ct71rr]

Thanks for the info everyone! I got the vise as you see it. My friend painted the base blue for some reason...
Outlawmws: sorry dude. I will post on that thread, as well.

Again, thanks for the info!!!

 

[holden94]

Drivesitfar, will post new pics later on tonight after I get it together. It looks to me as if it is meant to be mounted to a wooden bench with the base angling back like that underneath. The bench notched to fit? I think I have seen that on some vise pics but not as pronounced as mine. Any thoughts? Thanks

 

[drivesitfar]

Holden: Parker is the only vise i know of with that angled mount on the base and i've seen it on only a few of their vises. i'm not a huge fan of Parker vises and probably because they are not plentiful here in the Pacific NW, but they are pretty expensive to fix if you need any parts so treat it with care. don't use it as a press or an anvil and it should last another 100 years.

when you post pictures of your Parker put together and from all sides asking the questions you want answers for over on the vise thread maybe some of the guys with several Parker vises will have some answers for you.

Like i said it's unique and i haven't seen another one yet with the design you have on your base.

 

[Outlawmws]

Holden, on the wood vise, generally (Pattern makers vises excepted) the metal faces were faced with wood to prevent marking the workpiece. So inlet or face mounted to the edge both work.

 

[Sask dude]

If I want to try restoring a record number 100 should I take it all apart or try while it's all together

 

[jakemac]

Do it right. Take it apart as much as you can. No sense in doing all that work if you're only going to go halfway. It will show.

 

[Outlawmws]

Do it right. Take it apart as much as you can. No sense in doing all that work if you're only going to go halfway. It will show.

it's not like it's rocket science...

 

[drivesitfar]

Sask: does your Record have a closed end on the back of the dynamic slide? do you know if you have the quick release mechanism? Records are a little different than our standard US vises if it has one or both of those features which might make it a little more like rocket science, but still doable.

can you post a lot of pictures from all sides and tip it on it's side and take a couple of both ends of the bottom of the slide?

 

[Sask dude]

I'll get some pics tomorrow there was a pin to drive out but I'm still trying to figure out how it comes apart.

 

[PCO6]

Sask dude - The pin has a slight taper to it and only goes in one way. It can be tapped out with a small punch. It comes out fairly easily but putting it back in is a bit tricky in that you have to compress the spring, insert the pin and then tap it in ... basically a 3 handed job!

With the pin out it should come apart fairly easily. Here's what one looks like in pieces ...
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[Sask dude]

Hey thanks for that picture !!! Part of my pin is sheared and the spring is crushed and broken. Hopefully can find the parts on eBay or something.

 

[Outlawmws]

Spring, pin and washer you should be able to get at a hardware store.

 

[coleman10]

Anyone know what the "M" designation on Columbian vises means? For instance, mine is a D45 M3, but I've also seen D45 M4s and M5s mentioned. My swivel has M3 cast into it. Is that the size? Are there other designations other than M?

 

[fullthrottle24]

In that instance the m with number after it refers to different generations of that model. The D series workshop vises originally had no number. Then as time went on and columbian vise company was sold, you see different m numbers. The M inside of a hexagon refers to it be cast of malleable iron.

 

[coleman10]

In that instance the m with number after it refers to different generations of that model. The D series workshop vises originally had no number. Then as time went on and columbian vise company was sold, you see different m numbers. The M inside of a hexagon refers to it be cast of malleable iron.

Great info. Thanks!

 

[Guilden_NL]

Any thoughts on a anvil that used a lever that pressed up against the slide, instead of using anything rotary or screwed in?

My Dad had one back in the early 70's that I believe was made in the 40's and it had an anvil.

I loved it because I could also use it as a small bench mounted arbor press. I used it to create massive pressure by pounding the lever with a small sledgehammer. It was made out of steel, and was amazingly hard.

I'd like to find one like it, as it was spectacularly useful. I've tried Googling every combination possible, but haven't seen one yet.

The lever moved horizontally, and normally you would use your hand and pull it tight against the target material. But as I mentioned, I managed to apply 1,000lbs+ of pressure slamming the sledgehammer against it. It never whined nor complained.

I asked my now 84 yr old Dad what he thought it was called, but he didn't have any different ideas than me "lever arm vise". He thinks he got it in a throw away or garage sale event at the aerospace company he worked at. It definitely was USA made, and was of the late 30's or sometime in the 40's.

Thanks for any ideas that you might have.

 

[Outlawmws]

I'm sure you mean "vise" not "anvil"...

And that type of vise has been posted a number of times in the vise thread. Not common and tent to be expensive. Pounding on the lever with a sledge may have seemed a reasonable thing to do back then, but you were at risc for breaking that vise by doing so. Some have been shown with damage...

 

[va.grouseman]

Guilden__NL.---Go to The Vises of Garage Journal thread and look up page 1176,---post 23503 and see if the Stevens ratchet vise is what you're talking about.

And like Outlaw said, there aren't many of them around, especially the larger ones, and of them, a lot have broken levers for the very reason you mentioned.

Here is a small example of the Stevens.

 

[JackieABrfer]

Yost: Yost, along with Wilton is one of the few American vise makers left that still manufactures in the USA. Yost is the king. I like it.

 

[Hoka]

I pulled this one out of the trash, this little vise is an , American Scale & Vise , Kansas City Mo. it has a 3 1/8 inch jaw. and almost a 4 inch open. original color. Cant tell you how old it is, there are no markings. It took a little TLC but works fine now.

 

[Outlawmws]

I pulled this one out of the trash, this little vise is an , American Scale & Vise , Kansas City Mo. it has a 3 1/8 inch jaw. and almost a 4 inch open. original color. Cant tell you how old it is, there are no markings. It took a little TLC but works fine now.

AS went out of business in 1960, so a minimum of 55 years old.

 

[bubinga]

I pulled this one out of the trash, this little vise is an , American Scale & Vise , Kansas City Mo. it has a 3 1/8 inch jaw. and almost a 4 inch open. original color. Cant tell you how old it is, there are no markings. It took a little TLC but works fine now.

nice for coming out of the trash, I rescued a big drill press vise at work one day out of the scrap metal bin.

 

[Lobo74]

Checked out a Reed bench vise in a 2nd hand shop today. Reed Mfg. Erie USA
No. 103 1/2 No. 207. Bother these numbers were on the vise. Looked in really nice shape. No rust, handle looked new. Asking $90.00. Any info on this Vise would be helpful. I did look at an early post in this thread and I'm making this out to be a Machinist Vice with swivel base. But the data sheet on the thread only listed the swivel models up to 204. Again it looked really clean. What might a reasonable offer be and would this be a good vice for my garage. I plan to use it. Thanks.

 

[kazlx]

Just picked up this Chas Parker 203 for $50. Once I get rid of the hideous blue paint, should be a winner. Super clean, looks to be a relatively cream puff life.

https://scontent-lax1-1.**.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/10906523_10153416485584168_5138879889042174487_n.jpg?oh=e922084ad2b8537e66ab80d732aa3015&oe=55E7ECED

 

[bagged89s10]

Just picked up this Chas Parker 203 for $50. Once I get rid of the hideous blue paint, should be a winner. Super clean, looks to be a relatively cream puff life.

https://scontent-lax1-1.**.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/10906523_10153416485584168_5138879889042174487_n.jpg?oh=e922084ad2b8537e66ab80d732aa3015&oe=55E7ECED

What's the other side look like?

 

[kazlx]

What's the other side look like?

https://scontent-lax1-1.**.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11027771_10153417579799168_7689301461392807388_n.jpg?oh=7977bb1ee7cd00528320048f6ff9e04e&oe=55E69ED3

 

[biowrench]

Re: Everything you need to know about bench vises... 604 is a 604

Fyi, the swivel lock bolt assembly being sold on eyba as a "Wilton Vise Lock Bolt & Nut 604-512 10203-51" fits an old Columbian 604 adequately.

How such things get lost I dunno, but glad to find a reasonably priced replacement.

 

[mstorck33]

My girlfriend is about to inherit this vice from her father, who got it from his father, who brought it over from Germany many years ago. There's no markings on it and I'm wondering if anyone recognizes it or might know anything about it. It looks pretty nice and any info would be greatly appreciated.

 

[mstorck33]

(I don't know why the photo keeps posting upside down, I've tried flipping it and saving it, nothing seems to work.)

 

[valentine]

That's okay. I stood on my head to look at the photo, LOL. Can't tell you a thing about your vise other than it looks pretty solid and very cool. Good luck with it.

-Valentine

 

[Fretters]

Looks of very similar styling to the Irimo vices. I've attached a rotated copy of your photo.

 

[Outlawmws]

Fret, got any idea when the Iremo's like that came out? Does it predate the Bugatti's?

 

[HanShotFirst]

I have two vises, neither are especially big or fantastic. My general purpose vise is a 25 year old Record that looks just like this one. It has served me very well.

A couple of years ago I decided I needed a vise that spins and swivels for gunsmithing, so I picked up one of the import Wilton's off Craigslist for a song; perfect for what I need. Gunsmithing doesn't abuse a vise at all, this should last me a LONG time.

 

[HanShotFirst]

If I found myself without a vise suddenly, there's just NO WAY I'd buy a new one. A quick trip to Craigslist and I found this in 2 minutes, $80.00.

It could be a refresh project, or just use it as it is. $80.00 and you'd have to spend 5x that to get the same quality today.

http://stockton.craigslist.org/tls/5081239197.html

 

[dbkohlhase]

New at this. Found Garage Journal on accident. Don't do a lot of stuff, but sure is nice to have the equipment one needs when the time comes.

Trying to see images of t-shape vs. v-shape jaws. I'm thinking mechanic's vise for me, and now, based on what I just read, a stationary one, rather than swiveling.

 

[partsproduction]

Hi guys, I joined less than 6 months ago I think. I'm a semi retired machinist, so the use of the word "Leadscrew" for a vise caught my eye.

I think the term leadscrew is misappropriated from metal lathe use, the leadscrew is what defines the lead of the screw being cut on a metal lathe. When movements are needed other than for screw thread cutting feed screws or feed rods are used.

I read in metalshop forums where "Leadscrew" is used for cross feed screws, and it just doesn't fit right, because no one cuts screw threads following with the cross feed screw.

I'm not trying to be a **** head here, just asking if that term is common among vise engineers? I think it might be more correct to call it a clamping screw, or the pressure screw, and I just don't think others thought about it much.
To call it just the main screw would work well too.

 

[Fretters]

Leadscrew is the appropriate term, (else simply screw), as that is exactly what it's doing, leading the front jaw. Pressure or clamping is incorrect, as that only indicates movement in one direction with a vice.

With regards to lathes, the leadscrew is generally the part driving the saddle movement, whether screwcutting is being done or not. Other driveshafts are used for powered crossfeed. The cross and top slides screws are technically leadscrews too.

Leadscrew is not a term which is limited to only screwcutting and lathes.

 

[Outlawmws]

I usually call it a main screw to avoid any confusion. Some vise companies call it a spindle, which I consider equally confusing, Reed just calls it a screw, but call the nut for it a main nut...

And York call this a spindle: which is a complete assembly...