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davestlouis

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My local Sears store is clearancing the Companion line and replacing them with another cheap line of tools, called Evolv( that is the way it is spelled I think). The weird thing is that all the cardboard packaging is brown, rough finish cardboard with green lettering on it, super basic packaging, meant to look super basic I assume. The first thing I looked at was a soft-handle ratchet with some sockets in a set...the Evolv lettering was rubbed off the ratchet handle on more than 1/2 of the ones on the shelf...not a good sign about the quality.

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Sears still on the decline .. now if enough customers don't buy the ****, maybe they won't sell **** ..
 
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The cardboard doesn't even have a shiny finish, it's just plain brown cardboard, and it looks cheesy. The ratchet reminds me of the ones at Harbor Freight. Yuck! On the plus side, I guess, some S-K is turning up in my local stores, but I just don't think that the current S-K production feels anywhere as nice as the older stuff. My 1970's era 1/2 in S-K round head ratchet feels so much better than my new production round ehad S-K. The new one rattles and the chrome feels and looks cheap. Even the model number stamping looks sloppier on the new one.
 

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it's supposed to appeal to the earth friendly people.

"hey look, we have super earthy packaging and basic construction to make you think you are helping the environment by buying it. It has nothing to do with us spending far less for packaging while you still pay the same amount for a cheaper tool."

Same concept (but in the opposite direction) that bottled water companies use "Hey look, the bottle is neat and has pretty colors. If we price it $.09 less than a soda you'll think you are getting an amazing healthy wonder-drink, never mind that it came out of the local tap."
 

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it's supposed to appeal to the earth friendly people.

"hey look, we have super earthy packaging and basic construction to make you think you are helping the environment by buying it. It has nothing to do with us spending far less for packaging while you still pay the same amount for a cheaper tool."

Same concept (but in the opposite direction) that bottled water companies use "Hey look, the bottle is neat and has pretty colors. If we price it $.09 less than a soda you'll think you are getting an amazing healthy wonder-drink, never mind that it came out of the local tap."

Amen to that. I don't know what's more irritating, the manufacturers who try to manipulate our values to make us happy with less product for more money, or the legions of drooling fools and ideologues who actually fall for that drivel.

Yet, many a fool have I seen proudly flaunting ****, because someone told them it was "green."

CNN was running an interesting graphic of average agreement or disagreement to the Palin vs. Biden debate. Any time one of the candidates said the word "fair" or "green" or "environment" their approval ratings suddenly shot up (regardless of how dimwitted the argument the candidate was making), just like a Pavlovian dog hearing the bell and salivating in anticipation of his meat powder.
 

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Yet, many a fool have I seen proudly flaunting ****, because someone told them it was "green."

Oh, like Hybrid cars, that, somehow are "green" even though they're loaded with 30-50 batteries?
 

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Yeah, these just showed up at my store the other day; I don't know if this is a direct "connection" but evolv is a sports based company that specializes in footwear for mountain climbing/extreme sports. I don't know if they are directly linked to the tools but the logo looks very similar if not the same! http://www.evolvesports.com/
The ratchet head looks identical to the old companion design; the wrenches look pretty good and they sockets look "ok". I mean this stuff is really cheap; so, I would expect much in the way of quality! Hell, the quality of the standard line of Craftsman tools are declining; so, I don't expect any miracles from the economy line offered.
Danaher guys; do you produce any of these tools or is this another OEM altogether? The packaging does say "distributed by Sears" and with lifetime warranty; it also says you can return them to a evolv dealer; apparently they have dealers (http://www.evolvesports.com/dealers.htm) that seem to be based in outdoor suppliers and sports stores.

One thing that is strange is that these new tools are no where to be found on the sears.com website; maybe they will be rolling out more marketing, the closer we get to the holidays.....

If they are in fact linked to "evolv sports" mentioned earlier; then the marketing, packaging and "natural" feel to the brand makes sense. I would be interested in seeing our display when it goes up; we haven't put everything up yet for Christmas....
 
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it's supposed to appeal to the earth friendly people.

"hey look, we have super earthy packaging and basic construction to make you think you are helping the environment by buying it. It has nothing to do with us spending far less for packaging while you still pay the same amount for a cheaper tool."

Same concept (but in the opposite direction) that bottled water companies use "Hey look, the bottle is neat and has pretty colors. If we price it $.09 less than a soda you'll think you are getting an amazing healthy wonder-drink, never mind that it came out of the local tap."

In that case, the granola-folks at the Ann Arbor store will be all over those. :rolleyes:

Too bad taht the country those tools are made in have slightly different pollution control laws.
 

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Yeah, these just showed up at my store the other day; I don't know if this is a direct "connection" but evolv is a sports based company that specializes in footwear for mountain climbing/extreme sports. I don't know if they are directly linked to the tools but the logo looks very similar if not the same!

What better way to "Evolv" and support evolution than to free-climb without a shirt or helmet wearing silly little shoes.

Seems like marketing genius!
 

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This is not related to GearWrench, but I thought I'd chime in and add some detail since it looks like there is some interest. I've been involved with the Evolv project. It's been many months in the making.

As many of you have commented, this line is not targeted at the Professional or Serious Enthusiast that describes most of us on this board. It was/is developed for the do-it-yourselfer who is more of an occasional user of tools, but values things like dual-material grips, a nice quality finish, and packaging that is simple and easy to shop. Of course, price point is also a key factor here.

These tools are not spec'd as high as Craftsman - the more serious tool user will definitely want to step up. With that said, the Evolv line has some cool tools for the segment of users that it targets - and more coming!

Sears and DTG have partnered to promote this line so more info will be coming soon. Also, there is no affiliation with the previously mentioned line of outdoor sporting goods.

Thanks,
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I took a look at these in store yesterday. I think they're decent for the price and the branding is better than Champion--which I was never a fan of.

The Evolv line has a really nice set of full polish wrenches for $19.
 

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What better way to "Evolv" and support evolution than to free-climb without a shirt or helmet wearing silly little shoes.

Seems like marketing genius!

Yeah, that idiot climbing will "evolve" alright if he falls and survives....into a slobbering brain damaged & bed -ridden veggie....:thumbup:
 
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They look decent, given the price point. The selection is growing each time I visit my local Sears Hdwe store. I just wonder how many people who occasionally need household tools would really walk in and buy just a loose ratchet, and not grab a whole el-cheapo ratchet/socket set. They had single 3/8 Evolv ratchets for $14.99 and whole Craftsman ratchet and socket kits for $30ish...just wondering.
 
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The wrenches actually look pretty decent for $19.99; I'm sure they will go 50% off like the Companion line typically does; if our Gearwrench guys are any indication, it looks like they are taking the place of the old Companion line of econo tools...
 

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This is not related to GearWrench, but I thought I'd chime in and add some detail since it looks like there is some interest. I've been involved with the Evolv project. It's been many months in the making.

As many of you have commented, this line is not targeted at the Professional or Serious Enthusiast that describes most of us on this board. It was/is developed for the do-it-yourselfer who is more of an occasional user of tools, but values things like dual-material grips, a nice quality finish, and packaging that is simple and easy to shop. Of course, price point is also a key factor here.

These tools are not spec'd as high as Craftsman - the more serious tool user will definitely want to step up. With that said, the Evolv line has some cool tools for the segment of users that it targets - and more coming!

Sears and DTG have partnered to promote this line so more info will be coming soon. Also, there is no affiliation with the previously mentioned line of outdoor sporting goods.

Thanks,
Steve

See, this is what I like about you guys.... you come out and tell us the truth instead of being marketing puppets. Your credibility just went up about 10 points. :thumbup::beer::beer::beer:
 

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Sorry, about being wrong about the brand connection between evolv extreme sports/evolv sears branded tools (I don't think they would necessarily would be a bad cross marketing opportunity!); I guess the logo, the "eco" packaging and wondering if this guy needed some tools for his climbing gear, got me thinking there was a connection! :)
I could see a commercial with the tagline; "extreme tools for extreme sports.... get your evolv tools at Sears, today!"....woohoo!!!!!!
 
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See, this is what I like about you guys.... you come out and tell us the truth instead of being marketing puppets. Your credibility just went up about 10 points. :thumbup::beer::beer::beer:

Technically, according to what it says in Gearwrench's signatures, Steve is the product marketing director, so he would be the pupper master. ;)

It is really nice to see raw honesty, and it is certaily a very good thing that we have have a name and personal input that we can trust.
 

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Funny........just went to Sears, and was looking around the tools. My wife was trailing behind me. She was just browsing (because she was bored).......and you know which tool she decided to "touch and feel" (without being perverted!!!)? The new Evolv rachet. Now, she isnt an eco-nut, I guess she just liked the green color and rubberized handle.

Honestly I like the old Companion stuff better. Is it me, or were the Companion rounded handle ratchets more comfortable and reliable than the current Craftsman (non-pro) rachets? They didnt seem to slip and I still like the thumbwheel on the back.

-Chris
 

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Funny........just went to Sears, and was looking around the tools. My wife was trailing behind me. She was just browsing (because she was bored).......and you know which tool she decided to "touch and feel" (without being perverted!!!)? The new Evolv rachet. Now, she isnt an eco-nut, I guess she just liked the green color and rubberized handle.

Honestly I like the old Companion stuff better. Is it me, or were the Companion rounded handle ratchets more comfortable and reliable than the current Craftsman (non-pro) rachets? They didnt seem to slip and I still like the thumbwheel on the back.

-Chris

Just about anything out there is better than the non Craftsman pro ratchets...
 

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Evolv is a line of tools that are being introduced by Craftsman to replace the line known as Companion. The cardboard packaging is on most of the merchandise and it is so because it is recyclable. The tools are actually better built than the companion line was and it boasts a lifetime guarantee that is honored by Sears unlike the companion line.
 

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The Evolv tools aren't that bad for what they are. They are comparable in quality to the Pittsburgh tools at Harbor Freight from what I can tell. The only difference is, you don't need a receipt to return a broken Pittsburgh tool at Harbor Freight. That's right, hold on to those receipts for a long, long time if you buy these tools because you will need it to get a replacement.

With that being said, this line of tools is just another boneheaded move by the corporate geniuses at Sears. Why introduce a line of tools that competes (implied lifetime warranty) with your bread and butter line of tools? People who are really serious about the quality of their tools are going to buy Craftsman tools or better, so it won't affect them. The problem that arises is that those people who would previously purchase a Craftsman tool based on the warranty over a Companion tool now have a cheaper option, and they will go with this option simply because of the warranty. The problem is (and I am sure that Sears is counting on this) that these people are going to expect an unconditional guarantee over the life of the tool and will return a broken tool only to be told that they need a receipt to do so. How many of you hold on to receipts for 20 dollar purchases? For those that do, how often can you locate said receipt after 2 or 3 years?

I think that Sears that will find their target market with this line of tools, but I can bet that the Craftsman line will take a hit as a result of it.
 
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Unless, I am totally missing something here (it wouldn't be the first time).... AFAIK, the back of the packaging says that Evolv tools have a lifetime warranty and just take them to any evolv dealer for a free replacement; the companion line of tools had a 1 year warranty and that required a receipt, to "prove" the purchase date. That being said; if you are a tool freak and really want a high quality tool, needless to say; look elsewhere! I think this practically, go without saying! Visit your local tool truck for some professional goodness! :)
I am going to work this morning and I will write down exactly what the warranty says on these tools and report back to the board exactly what the wording is...
 

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Sears has become another scrap metal distributor, notice the current extensions are too large to smoothly snap into sockets, or too loose and fall of easy, I'm not a Craftsman basher but lately they have lost it. The stuff my father gave me many years ago was a totally different Craftsman than the junk they foist today. Sears can stand behind this,fruit bowl:bowdown::bowdown:
 

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Sears has become another scrap metal distributor, notice the current extensions are too large to smoothly snap into sockets, or too loose and fall of easy, I'm not a Craftsman basher but lately they have lost it. The stuff my father gave me many years ago was a totally different Craftsman than the junk they foist today. Sears can stand behind this,fruit bowl:bowdown::bowdown:

Danaher quality.
 

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I'm biased but I just think allot of Danaher q/c and design is poor or Sears is pressuring them to lower costs so much, the quality is going downhill! olds88, are you putting "quality" in "quotes"? LOL!

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"Danaher "quality"; riiiggghhhttt...."
 

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Here is the direct quote from the back of the evolv tool packaging:
"Limited Lifetime Warranty: (emphasis mine) This Warranty covers any defects in manufacturing in your Evolv hand tool and lasts as long as you own your Evolv hand tool. Return your defective Evolv hand tool to any Evolv outlet in the USA with your proof of purchase for free repair or replacement. This warranty gives you specific legal rights and you may also have other rights which vary from state to state."

I guess I was wrong about the warranty! From what the the warranty states; the "limited" aspect of the warranty must be the proof of purchase; I am going to email the Sears Customer service/warranty people and see what their explanation of this is. Sounds like "lifetime" with a catch! I'll update this thread when I get an answer!
 
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Here is the direct quote from the back of the evolv tool packaging:
"Limited Lifetime Warranty: (emphasis mine) This Warranty covers any defects in manufacturing in your Evolv hand tool and lasts as long as you own your Evolv hand tool. Return your defective Evolv hand tool to any Evolv outlet in the USA with your proof of purchase for free repair or replacement. This warranty gives you specific legal rights and you may also have other rights which vary from state to state."

I guess I was wrong about the warranty! From what the the warranty states; the "limited" aspect of the warranty must be the proof of purchase; I am going to email the Sears Customer service/warranty people and see what their explanation of this is. Sounds like "lifetime" with a catch! I'll update this thread when I get an answer!


Exactly the same thing I said before. It says lifetime warranty on the front, but you have to read the fine print.
 

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I emailed Sears and didn't really get much of a answer but the response is somewhat revealing:

My Question:
Original Message Follows: ------------------------
Hello, I am considoring purchasing these tools; so, a written
explaination of what the warranty is and is not would be appreciated!
The main issue seems to be the need for a receipt; the traditional
Craftsman lifetime warranty does not require a receipt, for a warranty
replacement. If you have any specific info about the new Evolv warranty;
I would appreciate it! Thanks!

>

Dear XXXXXX,

We appreciate your consideration of Sears for your Craftsman tool needs.

Unfortunately, not all Craftsman tools are covered under the lifetime
warranty. A general list of Craftsman tools that are covered by the
lifetime warranty would include ratchets, sockets, wrenches,
screwdrivers and hammers. Some tools that are not covered by the
lifetime warranty (even though they are Craftsman branded) are: taps,
dies, saw blades, drill bits and torque wrenches. Other Craftsman
products such as power tools, lawnmowers, and test equipment have never
had a lifetime warranty. There have been a few instances where products
outside the hand tool family have been given lifetime coverage based on
the manufacturer's promise to replace or reimburse Sears if the product
fails. As the worldwide business climate changes, some of these
manufacturers have closed their factories, outsourced production, or
changed their business practices. This has forced us to re-evaluate our
warranty position on products that are outside the hand tool family. We
will continue to bring high quality tools with lifetime warranties to
market at the best price we can offer and hope to continue to fulfill
your expectations of quality and value from the Craftsman brand.
(emphases mine)

The Sears store can be contacted for all warranty issues. Since they can
actually inspect and exchange broken/defective tools, the store must be
contacted for warranty issues. The lifetime warranty is meant to protect
the customer in the event that a tool is defective or breaks under
normal use. It is not meant to cover tools that are
damaged/destroyed/lost due to fire, water, theft or other natural
causes.

We appreciate your business, and value you as a Sears customer. We
certainly hope you will continue to make Sears your choice for quality
and value.


Sears Customer Care
[email protected]
1-800-349-4358
 
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The Evolv tools aren't that bad for what they are. ... That's right, hold on to those receipts for a long, long time if you buy these tools because you will need it to get a replacement.

... The problem is (and I am sure that Sears is counting on this) that these people are going to expect an unconditional guarantee over the life of the tool and will return a broken tool only to be told that they need a receipt to do so. How many of you hold on to receipts for 20 dollar purchases? For those that do, how often can you locate said receipt after 2 or 3 years? .

How long will the thermal printing remain legible on the receipt? Unless you store them carefully, likely not too long. I guess in this case the lifetime the guarantee refers to is the lifetime of the receipt.

~Steve
 

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One can always photocopy or scan in receipts of expensive items. I'm sure that if given enough grief, managers could give the okay on replacement of certain items w/o receipt.

Notice how when asked about Evolv tools, Sears' customer service responded with a cut and paste Craftsman warranty response. I'd ask for a supervisor's response.

billmade, since you work for Sears, can't you call a regional manager to find out how you're supposed to process such a warranty?
 

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I'll see what I can do; I guess they got confused when I compared the warranty to the Craftsman one... LOL!
 

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I took a look at the packaging of some Evolv tools at Sears today, and it says that you need "proof of purchase" top make a return, but you can do so at any Evolv distributor.

I handled the adjustable wrenches (or rather fingered them as they were locked/zip tied to the cardboard), and was totally unimpressed.

I also took a gander at the screwdriver set, and let's just say that I almost burst out laughing. The tips of the screwdrivers appeared to be PAINTED!!!
 
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