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Explain me Stellite welding

Temaweaver

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At work we have mower decks. The front roller is attached with a bolt that goes through the roller with a bracket on each side. The bracket is part of the frame weldment. These brackets wear from being drug over hard surfaces. I would like to build them back up with stellite. I've only ever migged before. Should this be done with a stick welder or a tig welder? Is there different grade of rod? I know you guys can help me out.
 
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Probably better to make replaceable shoe covers that bolt on. Much like snow blower runners


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We used to use hard facing rod for the stick welder when we’re repairing the rub rails on the zero turns and out front mowers.
 

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We hard face with both stick and wire feed at work. For most applications stick is fine because you aren't burning in that much. When we have a big job we break out the 1/16 hard facing wire on a 400a wire feeder.
 

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If the wear is specifically from being drug over hard surfaces, tungsten carbides probably offer (at least) similar protection at a lower cost.
If you're already familiar with migging, I'd get MIG wire (actually FCAW) instead of stick welding rods.
 
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There are a LOT of different build-up and overlay type of 'hardfacing' weld fillers.

With different various properties.

Some for resisting impact, others for abrasive wear, etc.

With multiple vendors/maker/suppliers, there are literally HUNDREDS of different hardfacing fillers available.

From Stoody, McKay, ESAB, Bohler/UTP, Hobart, Lincoln, etc.

Some hardfacing fillers are available in SMAW (aka 'stick') electrodes, others are available in wire-feed form (usually in the FCAW variety, both FCAW-G dual-shield and FCAW-S self-shielded), and others are for use with oxy-fuel (oxy-acetylene usually).

What specific welding equipment/machine(s) do you have available? What is the size and thickness of the material you want to build-up?

Note that most actual hardfacing fillers are rather expensive compared to 'plain' steel weld fillers (stick or wire).

If you (or the boss) just want to build-up the worn face/edge of the roller brackets, you could just use plain steel filler electrodes. Which won't resist abrasive wear as well as an actual hardfacing filler, but might be 'enough' for the purpose.

Or go all-in some abrasive-resistant hardfacing. But you will have to choose even there, as different versions resist different abrasive environments differently.

Lincoln alone lists 15 different hardfacing rod/stick/SMAW iterms, and 15 different wire hardfacing fillers. Plus submerged-arc varieties.

Other 'brands' have similar choices.

You'll need to either look up things yourself, call or contact some different suppliers, or give us some more specific info to help YOU narrow down some choices.

And some of that info is just how many 'things' do you need/want to repair or build-up? As some of the fillers might be 'standard' catalog items but are really only available in pallet-level quantities.
 
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Temaweaver

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The bracket is about 1/4 wide. I was going to build up with filler wire. Then lay down a couple beads of hard face. I have a miller mig. I think it’s a 140. I’ve been “welding” thiings my whole life and have gotten better in time. Welding is a big world and wish I knew more.
 

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BTDT.

About the only hardfacing wire that I found that was even available in a wire size and spool size that can be run in an 8" diameter spool (~10 lbs of wire) on the 'small' machines is/was McKay ArmorWear FCAW-S in 0.035" diameter. Was $100+ for the spool several years ago and was a bit hard to even find/get.

https://www.hobartbrothers.com/downloads/McKay_Catalog_LR.pdf

I ran it with a small 240V machine though (Lincoln SP175+). And it pretty much took all of the machine's output to get the wire to run successfully.

I'm not sure that a 120V machine even has enough oomph to run the wire successfully. Sorry. The wire is NOT the same as a usual small-machine FCAW-S wire (such as Lincoln NR-211-MP in 0.035" diameter) with regards to the volts-amps needed to run it.
 

matt_i

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An alternative along the lines of what Kaizen posted: Sendcutsend now has AR500 abrasion resistant steel in several thicknesses.

Design your bracket in CAD and upload to be laser cut, drill (& tap?) a couple of holes and you are done.

If that design is successful, the additional spares will become cheaper built in higher volumes.
 
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