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Casey69

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The Kilz brand they sell at Walmart was rated well in consumer reports last year. Water-based though.
 

Chaz

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Oil base is always my preference. I've always done well with Benjamin Moore products -They are pretty pricey though.
 

Full Size 66

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Not sure what brands are available to you? I use to hate painting and when we bought this house we bought the most expensive interior paint from a local paint company and now I mildly enjoy painting. It is a case of you get what you pay for. I had no idea that the grade of paint made such a difference!!! Go for the best rated, for whatever reason it's thicker and covers better and lasts longer....
 

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Water based paints are getting much better,

but I still prefer to use oil based primer.
 
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OIIIIIIIO

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Anyone have any experience with the Zinsser oil based primers?

I planned on going with either BM or Sherwin Williams for the top coat...
 

dreamingmuscle

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I love the top of the line Sherwin Williams latex exterior paints. They are super expensive but almost have one coat coverage. They flow well and leave little brush marks.
 

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Not oil based, but I used Sherwin Williams Duration on my house and garage- 10 years so far, no peeling or blistering and really no fading.
 
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OIIIIIIIO

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Any recommendations on exterior wood sealers for the cedar shakes I put up? Trying to prolong the greying process a bit...

Can't find any good sites for sealers like i did for paints that put SW Duration at the top of the list...

Stick with SW? Cabot? Thompsons? Velvit Oil?

Thanks!
Patrick
 
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T_Hed

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Any recommendations on exterior wood sealers for the cedar shakes I put up? Trying to prolong the greying process a bit...

CWF UV made by the Flood company is the best clear finish for cedar shakes.
Two heavy coats and yer good for about five years depending on your weather.

Also I prefer Zinsser 123 primer over Kilz or Kilz2 primer
T
 
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ddawg16

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Unless it's for exterior use, oil based paint has little advantage over water based...

But even for exterior....the quality difference is minimal....not worth IMHO the hassle of cleaning and cost....

I have noticed that paint preference is akin to tool preference....both do the same job....but some people will just not use something that doesn't have the SO or BM name on it....
 

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I can say that Behr premium oil based latex stain isn't on my good product list. I used it on my house which is cedar T-111 and it has cracked and faded. I prepped really well and used a primer. I won't use it again.

On a similare but different topic, I stumbled on a deck/wood penetrating preservative that actually works. I live in the Pacific Northwest and the number of rainy days really challenges wood deck maintenance.

About three years ago after the annual cleaning and prep, I used Penofin penatrating wood treatment. It's made primarily of Brazilian Rosewood oil. It's not cheap but I realized this year that I hadn't had to retreat since '09. Unheard of in my experience. Anyway, no affiliation and it's a stellar product. Stinks though.
 

Bull

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Linseed oil-based paint from solventfreepaint.com. Very expensive, but none of this paint every five years bullcrap to deal with.
 

chadman

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I use Sherwin Williams SWP oil based with some Penetrol added to help it flow nice and not leave brush strokes. Recommended by a painter buddy of mine. Very happy with it.
 

jordan369

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I used Valspar Duramax for the exterior of my house and it is good stuff. Its been on 3 years and have had no issues with it.

Mike
 

Falcon67

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We're using Kelly-Moore products and they have held up very well. Nothing oil based on the exterior - all latex.
 

K'ledgeBldr

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As far as the paint is concerned- it really doesn't matter if it's $20/gal or 39.50/gal paint, or brand for that matter. The success of a paint job is in the prep work!
And depending on what part of the country you live in, a paint job will last from 5-7yrs max. It doesn't matter what the guarantee is- 5 to 7 is the life span.

As for the shake, try this:
http://cart.mfgsealants.com/products/TWP-1500-Series-Stain.html

This is no doubt the best stuff on the market- its the only product I recommend for decks also.
 

Angelfire

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The last time I painted wood for outdoors I went with the Behr exterior. 10 years later in one of the harshest UV climates known to man, it's doing great.

For stains and sealers, I recently built a deck with pine logs and tatajuba for the decking. I did a lot of research and settled on Armstrong-Clark. What I realized while looking (and I made up a ton of samples of various manufacturers to test), is nothing lasts in my climate for more than a year, especially on horizontal surfaces (deck is at 8600' ASL in Northern NM---lots of sun in the summer, and a bunch of snow in the winter). So far I've been happy with it. Easy to apply and their support has been exceptional (particularly when I called on a Sat. afternoon after applying the product only to have a thunderstorm dump on it!). Just be sure to prep properly (I wash with sodium percarbonate then rinse, then hit it with citric acid to neutralize it. Let dry, apply the sealer)

I live in Albuquerque and the weather is very tough on outdoor wood. YMMV depending on where you're living etc....
 
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