billconner
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Possible new product. Not endorsing, just sharing.
Ez2wire
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billconner
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It is a little dry. Long discussion at thebuildingcodeforum.com.
wyliesdiesels
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It put me to sleep.....
Haven't we done this before..........8-track, cassette, dvd, download, streaming....................vhs vs. beta.......blockbuster,,,, streaming.............foot, horse, buggy, ice car, ecar, flying cars............(sorry, I got ahead of myself)
Very wordy.... Sounds like it was written by AI and narrated by computer generated voice. I clicked the FF button a few times then clicked away.
The product could be the best thing since sliced bread but most people will never know..... because the video is unwatchable. lol.
The product could be the best thing since sliced bread but most people will never know..... because the video is unwatchable. lol.
Chuckster in NJ
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I give this "idea" 5 years before it appears on "Tru TV Worlds Dummest Inventions"
In the world of marketing, everybody is a spin doctor.
Success is measured by how many people you can get to follow your "story of facts."
I've often wondered why a system like this doesn't exist in todays world. Easy to change colours, easy to replace worn receptacles . easy to add an in wall timer switch etc.
I like the concept , to me it makes sense. I recall when faucets were coming in with cartridges, like Moen, the old timers saying what a crock . now virtually very few faucets have a "washer"
will this catch on? who knows , but the fact they are open to licensing agreements etc, I say it has a reasonable chance .
I like the concept , to me it makes sense. I recall when faucets were coming in with cartridges, like Moen, the old timers saying what a crock . now virtually very few faucets have a "washer"
will this catch on? who knows , but the fact they are open to licensing agreements etc, I say it has a reasonable chance .
Shiftless
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So if I want to eliminate a switch and replace it with a receptacle, I can just yank out the switch and plug in a duplex receptacle? I think not.
The company says it saves money on the original install. The wiring harnesses must cost many times as much as NM-B. The parts that you see I bet are $$ WAY past what we are now paying.
The video pushed one of the advantages being that renters could unplug their advanced devices and take ‘em with them to their next place. Anybody see any problems with this?
It would be faster to replace a worn out receptacle. I wouldn’t have to flip the circuit breaker and disconnect and reconnect 3 wires. I would turn a 10-15 minute job into a one minute job. But the replacement receptacle would probably cost what do you think? $10.00? More?
How many times in the past year have any of us had to replace worn out receptacles in our homes?
The company says it saves money on the original install. The wiring harnesses must cost many times as much as NM-B. The parts that you see I bet are $$ WAY past what we are now paying.
The video pushed one of the advantages being that renters could unplug their advanced devices and take ‘em with them to their next place. Anybody see any problems with this?
It would be faster to replace a worn out receptacle. I wouldn’t have to flip the circuit breaker and disconnect and reconnect 3 wires. I would turn a 10-15 minute job into a one minute job. But the replacement receptacle would probably cost what do you think? $10.00? More?
How many times in the past year have any of us had to replace worn out receptacles in our homes?
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wyliesdiesels
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agreed
wyliesdiesels
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ive got a few i need to replace in this 1953 home. but theyve been like that since i moved in, sept 2018... never got around to it
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reader2580
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Their website is as bad as the video. ez2wire.org
reader2580
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I might have gotten the website address wrong. The site I saw had a picture and a contact us form.
wyliesdiesels
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just a landing page. it hasnt been built yet
reader2580
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The website I saw the other day had a picture and a contact us form. I see that it is now a parked domain site.
Guess that YouTube video isn't paying the bills...
Ez2wire seems to be tied with Charles Goin and auto (possibly Opel?) wire harnesses.
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billconner
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It feels like there may be more than one "ez2wire" (which spell check changed to "ex-wife").
reader2580
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Ez2wire.com is a manufacturer of wiring harnesses. Ez2wire.org is a company or organization promoting a standard for wiring devices. I don't think there is any relation other than similarly named websites.
Someone in marketing should be fired...
And that company might want to beef up the legal team
reader2580
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The promotional video talks about taking your ez2wire devices with you when you move. Standard sale agreements would require basically anything in the house at time of showing to be included in the sale. At the very least you would need to replace upgraded devices with another device. You typically can't sell a house minus electrical receptacles or switches unless selling AS-IS.
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billconner
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It seems at the end of the day if it will be accepted by code and costs less or at least not more, it will be used.
How long have they been peddling the idea?
The fact that I can't find much about it doesn't bode well....
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billconner
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It's in development. I think they have some early samples. I'd guess they have parents.
Are you tied in with them?
To add further confusion
electeconline.com
EZ-WIRING - ELECTEC Building Wiring Systems
Electec EZ-Wiring is a wiring system designed for ease of installation, typically used in residential and commercial buildings. It often features pre-configured and pre-cut wiring harnesses that simplify the electrical installation process. The system is designed to be user-friendly, reducing...
electeconline.com
A Newbie Seeking Assistance
This is my first post on this forum, so please be gentle. While I’m new here, I’m not a virgin. I’ve been trolling this site, off and on, as a guest for quite a while. I appreciate the respectful discourse and helpful nature of the professionals on this forum. However, my real motivation...
www.thebuildingcodeforum.com
Someone needs to talk to this guy about brand recognition and ask how he trademarked a name that was already in common use...
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billconner
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Not at all. They started a thread at thebuildingcodeforum.com and I thought it would be interesting to see reactions here.
Shiftless
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Looks like the general reaction from us GJ members is clear.
American Locomotive
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I think this idea has potential merit, especially since the inventor also demonstrated "adapters" to allow conventional devices to be wired. If you think about it, everything else these days generally has standardized connectors. Shoot, just about everyone decided their "home" circuit breakers should all be approximately the same exact form factor, and more or less perfectly interchange. Makes sense to extend that to devices as well.
The biggest thing that will determine whether or not this is a failure, is if he can get companies on board. Unfortunately it sounds like he's trying to get companies to license the design/technology, and I think that's a heavy-handed approach that will probably lead to the product's failure in the market. If you want wide acceptance, you need to make the product a defacto standard, and that's going to require open licensing and a bunch of companies to be onboard.
Just IMO of course.
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billconner
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At least I the thread at another site, he was clear and adamant that there was no cost for the license. I agree it may be hard to get manufacturers to sign on, but seemed sincere about making the designs free. It's just a connector and lots of those out there. I think he wants the EZ2wire logo on the product.
I'm not for or against this. No idea if it will even ever come to market. Just interesting.
reader2580
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How is the inventor going to get reimbursed for the expenses of getting a patent and such with no fees? I thought I saw that it is patented.
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billconner
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You can read the other thread here: https://www.thebuildingcodeforum.com/forum/threads/a-newbie-seeking-assistance.37916/
Post 18 includes:
"Well I don’t want to give away the secret sauce, but what I can tell you is that the current marketing plan is to release the core patent as an “open source” technology (basically free) to entice all OEMs to Join The Electrical Revolution. Our goal is to partner with every OEM, because they already have established market segments and distribution channels.
We plan to monetize our operation off of our Ez2Wire trademark initiatives (linked to all “open source” agreements) and by launching a slew of follow-on patented devices and tools designed specifically for the Ez2Wire System."
Post 18 includes:
"Well I don’t want to give away the secret sauce, but what I can tell you is that the current marketing plan is to release the core patent as an “open source” technology (basically free) to entice all OEMs to Join The Electrical Revolution. Our goal is to partner with every OEM, because they already have established market segments and distribution channels.
We plan to monetize our operation off of our Ez2Wire trademark initiatives (linked to all “open source” agreements) and by launching a slew of follow-on patented devices and tools designed specifically for the Ez2Wire System."
Just how often do people change switches or outlets? And doing so with a currently available good quality replacement is not difficult. Five dollars and 15 minutes is what it takes.
I am not seeing the need or benefit In reinventing this wheel.
I am not seeing the need or benefit In reinventing this wheel.
Stuart in MN
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I didn't watch the video in the first post, but the pictures at this link remind me of the wiring that's sometimes used in modular housing - like the prefab houses that are delivered to the building site in two halves, so the electrical in the two halves can be snapped together.To add further confusion
EZ-WIRING - ELECTEC Building Wiring Systems
Electec EZ-Wiring is a wiring system designed for ease of installation, typically used in residential and commercial buildings. It often features pre-configured and pre-cut wiring harnesses that simplify the electrical installation process. The system is designed to be user-friendly, reducing...